XSF Discussion - 2012-01-13

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  11. ralphm dwd: around?
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  15. dwd ralphm, Sorry, yes, but managed to miss that one somehow.
  16. ralphm heh
  17. ralphm we should probably start making a list of all proposed presentations and demos
  18. dwd ralphm, Yes, we've suddenly got rather a lot more demos than we did.
  19. dwd Oh, and I meant to reply to Peter Waher - I'm a little worried about a presentation about the company, rather than the tech, at FOSDEM.
  20. dwd Can somebody check the following doesn't sound too aggresive or anything?
  21. dwd On Fri Jan 13 10:44:00 2012, Peter Waher wrote: > If there's a slot available, we'd like to hold a presentation of ourselves and the work we do together with companies like Cisco Germany in the field of sensor networking and IoT (Internet of Things), as well as a presentation of what we have done and our aims/goals in the field of XMPP, as related to: Before I begin, I may have completely misunderstood, and if your output is all open-source then most of this won't apply to you. My only concern with demos is that we are at FOSDEM, and as such the demos need to concentrate on the technical use of XMPP rather than the companies using it, and really involve open-source as much as possible. I'm pretty sure that the FOSDEM organizers understand that XMPP is not exclusively open-source, but we need to ensure that the balance is very much skewed that way, and we need to ensure that we're being very technically focussed. I do sympathize - I'd really love to discuss all the funky stuff that Isode is doing in the XMPP space - at least, the things I can talk about - but the nature of FOSDEM is hugely limiting for projects and companies that are not (very) open-source - this is no fault of FOSDEM, it's simply that FOSDEM is for Free/Open-Source software, and we need to respect that and keep aligned with it as much as is feasable. So I (in my Isode guise), like you, will be looking to figure out a demo which downplays the closed-source bits, and concentrates on the open-standards and/or open-source parts of what we do. (My talk has nothing at all to do with Isode, in fact). Given that the Interop day (on Friday) seems to be going slow, we could have some less constrained talks about what attendees are doing, if there's interest (in listening as well as talking, of course). Dave.
  22. dwd (Sorry for the wall'o'text)
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  24. dwd Anyone?
  25. Zash Done reading. Sounds ok I think.
  26. dwd OK, thanks.
  27. MattJ +1
  28. ralphm +1
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  32. Neustradamus have you read japanese messages ?
  33. stpeter yes, I saw them but haven't read them yet
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  38. ralphm stpeter: thanks for working on those lists
  39. ralphm stpeter: it would be great to have an overview of what we have for the lounge
  40. ralphm stpeter: We should also figure out how to get needed hardware for the loungy concept itself
  41. ralphm Do you think we should maybe paste my e-mail into the wiki page?
  42. stpeter ralphm: sure thing
  43. stpeter I will try to get some projectors and screens from the Cisco offices in Diegem
  44. stpeter we had some discussion about this stuff during the Board meeting on Wednesday, and we plan to hold another meeting next Wednesday, see http://xmpp.org/calendar/ for the .ics file :)
  45. stpeter I need to log off here for a bit, but I'll be back later
  46. ralphm Oh, I missed that
  47. ralphm I'd like to send an update to the fosdem team
  48. ralphm so they have a more solid idea
  49. stpeter indeed
  50. stpeter Florian is following up with some incubator project in Brussels about comfy chairs
  51. stpeter etc.
  52. stpeter but pasting your email into the wiki is a good start
  53. ralphm Ah. I'm finding notes
  54. stpeter cool
  55. stpeter brb
  56. ralphm Also I just joined the pubsubhubbub w3c group. Evan Prodromou and Julien Genestoux want to organize a meeting of some sort in Brussels. Maybe that's interesting.
  57. Kev It is if they drop that silly HTTP stuff and use XMPP :)
  58. ralphm Kev: hah
  59. ralphm Kev: become a member, too
  60. Zash Kev +1
  61. ralphm Kev: seriously though, I believe both have a place. For one thing, hybrid solutions are surely a way forward.
  62. Kev Nope, XMPP is the One True Protocol.
  63. Kev Email over XMPP.
  64. Kev HTML over XMPP.
  65. Kev DNS over XMPP.
  66. ralphm if you strip out half of the current pubsubhubbub concept and replace the 'publish' part with XMPP, that's a big win.
  67. Zash IP over XMPP
  68. Kev And there's absolutely no chance I'm being flippant.
  69. Kev Zash: Absolutely.
  70. Zash ... wait, we have that already
  71. Zash pokes mod_tcp
  72. Zash Ethernet over Link-Local XMPP!
  73. stpeter :)
  74. stpeter gotta run, bbl
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  77. ralphm needs sleep
  78. ralphm cya
  79. Kev GN.
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