dwdI'm not absolutely wed to orange on grey. But the dark grey is probably the safest colour (aside from black) and the orange looks pretty good against it. The other logo colours don't look as good, IMO.
KevIt seems reasonable. Albeit surprising.
dwdSurprising?
ZashIs it print/vinyl/whatsitcalled
Zashlots-o-stitches
Kevdwd: I was surprised.
KevZash: Embroidered is the word.
dwdPrint. Rather than, say, embroidered or anything.
dwdKev, These hoodies are in addition to the t-shirts.
dwdKev, And they're all going to end up on my credit card, BTW, so I *really* hope this works out. :-)
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ralphmdwd: that looks awesome. Does the place where you are having this done have pictures of similar hoodies?
dwdHe's now complaining the rotation isn't quite right.
KevI thought that, but also decided it didn't matter.
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ralphmhehe
dwdSod it, I'm happy with it.
ralphmcan I reserve an M?
dwd€15?
ralphmdwd: that works for me
dwdM's are worth ordering, I'm only getting 10 or so.
ralphmdwd: lot's of skinny dudes there
ralphmlots too
dwdBut they'll buy L's. L people cannot buy M's.
dwdAnd even I'm an L.
ralphmI'm taller, but still prefer M
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dwdstpeter, What's the formal address for the XSF? (I need the t-shirt place to invoice the XSF in the hope that we might be able to claim back the VAT some day).
dwdOh, and designs for t-shirts and hoodies on http://dave.cridland.net/t-shirt/finals/
stpeterhttp://xmpp.org/participate/contact-us/
dwdBrill, ta.
stpeteris prepping for the IESG telechat in ~30 minutes and might not be very responsive for the next 3 hours
Zash3 hours...
Zashwoah
stpeteryeah
dwdZash, Yeah, must be a short one.
stpeterafter this I'll have 4 more "formal" telechats, yay
stpeterthey're actually 2.5 hours
stpeterbut I'm prepping right now
ralphmstpeter: on that contact page, it mentions 'XSF Council' with a non-working link
stpeterralphm: noted
Zashhttp://xmpp.org/404-page-is-still-broken ;)
ralphmoh and dwd: don't use the address from the RFCs, they have a typo in them :-D
ralphm(which reportedly only a Dutch guy would spot)
stpeterplus it's XMPP Council, not XSF Council
ralphmright
stpeterfixed that at least
ralphmI'm still a bit amused about the 8 char local-part limit in cisco e-mail addresses
stpeteryeah, I love that
dwdgets ready to spend £1,680 on t-shirts and hoodies.
Zash£
Zash:D
dwdRoughly €2,000.
dwdI suspect we'll do well on the hoodies, if I can get the design right (I arsed up the EPS, it seems), and we should do OK on the t-shirts (given we sold out last time with this design).
ralphmyay
dwdWhen I say "we", I mean "me". :-)
dwdBut I imagine we'll sort it all out post-facto.
ralphmif not, you get to keep the profits, right?
Ashley Roachhow many t-shirts is that? 100?
ZashWhere there leftovers from last year?
dwd200, and 100 hoodies.
ZashThe ones with <presence/> on them?
dwdZash, We had leftovers from the ones we failed to give away last year, which were leftovers from the previous year.
Zash:D
Ashley Roachthat's a healthy amount of shirts!
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dwdAshley Roach, It is.
dwdAshley Roach, But we know that if t-shirts are sold at €5, they're in impulse-buy territory in FOSDEM. I *think* that we may be unique in hoodies, and those hoodies we can sell at €10 without a loss. In practise, we'll probably take a walk around and pick a low price, likely €10 and €15, which ought to cover losses but still sell the majority.
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KevWhy do we sell t-shirts at FOSDEM? (Not rhetorical)
stpeterbecause everyone else does?
stpeterI don't feel a strong need to sell t-shirts at FOSDEM
stpeterI don't feel a strong need to be at FOSDEM, either, though
KevPersonally, or the XSF?
stpeterthe XSF
stpeterI mean, it's nice to reach out to developers, but we've never measured the return on investment for FOSDEM in terms of developers on XMPP projects, new XMPP applications, etc.
KevRight. The summit is productive, for some measure of productivity.
stpeterI think so
KevBut FOSDEM itself doesn't seem so much.
stpeterfor some measure
stpeternods
MiGrihi
stpeterhi MiGri
MiGrime just reads "hoodies"... may there a way to get one of these without participating FOSDEM?
stpeter:)
stpeterprobably
stpeterin the past we've only sold these at FOSDEM, OSCON, etc.
MiGriI don't see at the moment that I can join one of these events
stpeteryeah
MiGritoo much work, too much family (we got a second foster child last summer)
MiGri;)
stpeterwow, yes you must be very busy!
MiGri;)
dwdMiGri, The proplem with selling them to you would be shipping, actually.
MiGrihmm... indeed
dwdIn fact, shipping generally is my major concern with them now.
MiGrimaybe another german member come to FOSDEM and can take me one here (or ship it in germany)
dwdMiGri, Or I can send you the artwork and you could get one printed yourself. :-)
dwdActually, I wonder if we could do something with selling these on one of those websites that print to order.
MiGriThat is not really the same ;)
MiGriWhat do they cost anyway?
dwdOur cost? £7.
dwdWhich is an awesome price, I have to say.
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ZashSans VAT?
MiGrihmm... I just need someone from germany, who is joining FOSDEM and take me one to germany...
MiGridwd: indeed. nice pice
stpeterMiGri: you can ask on the summit@ list, but I know that at least Florian Zeitz and Jonathan Schleifer will travel from Germany to Brussels for FOSDEM
MiGriok
MiGriah. both from aachen. thas nearby, as I'm living in cologne
dwdZash, Yes, that's before VAT, true.
dwdThey're €10.08, with VAT and in Euros.
Zashstill pretty good
dwdRight - we have a €5 markup, basically.
stpeternice, I just received a Greek spam message to mailto:draft-ietf-xmpp-3920bis@tools.ietf.org :)
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dwdI AM THE NEPHEW OF THE RECENTLY ASSASSINATED PRESIDENT. I HAVE BEEN GIVEN YOUR NAME AS A TRUSTWORTHY MAN. I HAVE 300 XMPP T-SHIRTS WHICH I NEED TO TRANSFER TO YOUR COUNTRY. CAN YOU HELP?
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stpeterwell, actually it starts with "Φρέσκα φρέσκα νέα από το αγαπημένο σου φροντιστήριο….." = "Fresh Fresh News From Your Favorite School" :)
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ralphmdwd: mine: I've known you website for ages, strictly speaking from year 2009. I found interesting your publication "Curriculum VitC&" which I googled on http://ralphm.net/cv ! I'd love to use it in a project I'm involved with called "Armenian FCW Science", so I'm seeking your permission for translation to Armenian language.
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stpeterhrm, I will need to work on the devroom schedule tonight
ralphmstpeter: note that the deadline is only for part of the information that can be entered into pentabarf, as they need the info to fill the booklet
XSF Discussion - 2012-01-19