XSF Discussion - 2012-02-22

I wondr if this client will be good enough to hold a meeting with.

("wondr" - how very Web 2.0)

Ashley, Hiya.

hey

~17 minutes to go.

On my tablet, so heaven only knows if the XMPP client will hold up. :-)

6 minutes to go. Two board members. I should start poking people, I suppose.

in case I get pulled by the meeting i'm lurking in now: +1 to dave as chair, +1 to alex, stpeter

but I'm here currently :)

Not that we need to vote for Chair. :-)

Whee. Four directors. Quoratastic.

hey all

And I think it's time to start.

So, my understanding is that Alex is happy to continue as Secretary for another session.

3minutes by my watch, but anyway.

Oh, is Peter here yet?

maybe this will hold

hi Ashley

tap tap, can you hear me?

yay!

Ah, perfect.

i think adium got confused

I'm here but on a W3C conference call related to the IETF IRI WG -- always fun

So, stpeter - are you willing to continue as Executive Director?

stpeter - and did I get it right that you'realso Treasurer? And do you want to be?

yes, I can continue as Executive Director -- and I'll have more time for that after March 30

Hi Chris.

hello

I think it would be good to discuss whether we can find someone else for the Treasurer role (although I'm happy to continue with that, we might want more checks and balances)

great

Do we have any candidates?

not really

If not, then we could post to the list requesting volunteers, if you'd like.

but we might want to discuss that

I really don't mind keeping those books

and it probably helps to have someone in the States for banking purposes

That thought had occured to me.

Jack Moffitt volunteered once upon a time, but in fact we never got him set up for check-writing privileges

I'm happy either way, but the more people involved the better, as a rule, so if you're happy to hand that role onto someone else, I think that'd be great.

But obviously, we need to find someone we want to do the role.

right

right

and like Peter said, preferably someone in the US

So does anyone have any objections to deferring the Treasurer [re-]appointment for a week or two, giving us time to go recruit?

+1 to defer - let's beat the bushes to find a suspect

agreed

_1

eh +1

"suspect" :)

+1

Right, OK, I think that's unanimous, then.

so next up, FOSDEM report?

So, Executive Director. No members have approached me, at any rate, complaining about Peter. Is everyone happy with him continuing on?

Florian, We need to formally appoint the other two officiers first.

oh right:)

+1 for Peter as ED

I'm in favour of Peter continuing as ED, too.

+1 for continuing to torment Peter

agreed +1

Ashley?

And while Ashley gets his connection back... Is everyone happy with Alex continuing as XSF Secretary?

I am.

Anyone else?

+1

+1

+1

sorry — multitasking

OK, so both ED and Secretary positions are filled for the next year (or so).

So onto FOSDEM.

Did eveyone read through the discussions on the members list?

yes, more or less

I haven't read the last few messages yet

The major outstanding thing is there's a suggestion that we should write a blog post saying how wonderful the whole thing was.

:D

that seems like good marketing

right

do we have photos? if not, it didn't happen, right?

That and that we might consider a Note Well.

I have photos of the lounge

I have some photos, I think there are others.

but not of the devroom

Kev, Yes, a Note Well would be useful.

I have some photos as well

Kev: as in IETF Note Well?

stpeter, I have some photos of the devroom. Including some of me and Kev talking, but those ones are awful.

stpeter: Yes. See discussion on me objecting to being covertly recorded with the intention of publishing the recording.

The rough summary being "Let's have a Note Well, and then I'll know in future that I'm subject to recording".

Kev: ah, that's in the part of the thread I hadn't read yet

Kev: but yes, you make a good point

in any case, we can post a blog entry without audio recordings :)

right

yeah

I think we can draft something fairly quickly based on the notes that Dave and I made -- I can do that by end of week

stpeter, If we're to have a *shudder* formal contribution policy, that's something I think we'll spend a considerable time on.

Dave Cridland: you will note that I started to work on one, see http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/copyright.html

The question then is whether we can get by without one. I certainly don't think we can go recording private conversations without telling those involved.

Dave Cridland: but it would require more work, and probably legal advice

I'll draft a post and send it to folks for review before we post it

Kev, I wondered about this. I think we probably can, being a US corporation, actually, except for the fact that the meeting was in the EU, and probably subject to EU laws.

Kev, FWIW, I don't think Matt can legally keep a copy of the recording without needing to cover himself with Data Protection Act voodo.

in the US, it might depend the state you reside in for this type of issue

heh

heh, this is getting complicated :)

indeed

Florian, Right, it is.

IETF meetings are always covered under Note Well, no matter where they're held

stpeter, Yes, but the Note Well has had lawyers running over it, and doesn't involve the (implicit?) copyright assignment the XSF uses.

stpeter: Right, which everyone must explicitly agree to, I believe.

kev, No, it's implicit.

Kev, I think the lawyers would be happy with an explicit agreement of some kind.

Dave Cridland: sounds like a topic for another meeting

stpeter: +1

Dave Cridland: Implicit that because it's an IETF venue you're under the Note Well, or implicit that once you're told the Note Well implies to that venue that any contribution is covered?

I thought it was the latter (e.g. that the Note Well was mentioned at the start of sessions)

Kev, Implicit because you're accepting only by the fact you continue participating.

the Note Well is mentioned at the beginning of every session, and you also agree to it when you register

But in any case, I think we move the subject of Note Well etc to the list, if that's OK?

yep

Sure.

(As in, I don't think we'll solve this right now).

yes

SO as actions, I have:

1) We're going to beat the bushes and so on and so forth, looking for a Treasurer

I've already started writing the blog post :)

2) Peter is going to do a blog post. I'll send him some photos (On Friday, when I'm home).

Dave Cridland: great, thanks

3) We'll start a thread on the members@ list about participation policy. (ie, recording, copyright, etc).

Anything else I missed?

sounds good

Oh, I suppose:

4) We should make a call for photos on the summit@ list.

I already asked for photos, but we can ask again

stpeter, Oh, yes, you did.

So, I henceforth, thus, ergo, propose the motion that we adjourn.

+1

+1

+1

thanks dave (and all)

Right - Time Gentlemen, Please.

thanks all

thanks!

cheers