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Dave Cridland
Afternoon, all.
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Dave Cridland
I take it it's just me and Mike so far?
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Dave Cridland
Afternoon Chris.
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cchris434
good afternoon!
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Kev
Dave Cridland: And me. I'm just not sure that counts for anything useful.
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stpeter
I don't see Ashley online
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Kev
Dave: I'd like to throw Athena briefly onto the agenda.
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Florian
yhello @ all
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Dave Cridland
Righty. With three people actively here, I'll declare ourselves quorate.
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Florian
:)
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Dave Cridland
So I *think* the agenda stood at GSoC, but Kev is asking to add Athena - anything else?
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Florian
not from my end
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Dave Cridland
Oh. I wouldn't mind raising the membership elections. As in, having some.
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Dave Cridland
But we'll start with GSoC.
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Dave Cridland
Kev, What's the status with GSoC?
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Kev
Dave Cridland: We have an application submitted, we can change it until this Friday. I've sent a copy for review to those people who mailed to say they wanted to help this year.
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Kev
I think that list stands at Me, Peter, Florian, Bear, Alex.
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Dave Cridland
Kev, Any responses/feedback?
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Florian
yup. It was fine. nothing to add
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Kev
A couple of 'it's fine' noises.
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Kev
I've not heard from everyone yet, though.
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Kev
So, the application needs to link to an ideas page.
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bear
it looked ok to me - the app info can be adjusted at any time
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Kev
bear: Until Friday.
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Kev
Our ideas page is at http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2012
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Dave Cridland
Without spinning up a browser, is there anything but Swift on there?
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Kev
I've been mercilessly chasing people to populate it, and that's starting to show some results. If anyone else has contact with appropriate people, please do chase them.
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Kev
Swift, Spectrum, Prosody, BC.
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Dave Cridland
OK, cool.
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Kev
The ideas page is a bit odd - we're not accepted, so clearly we don't need ideas yet.
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Kev
But the application includes the ideas page, and without a solid ideas page, we won't get in.
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stpeter
right
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Dave Cridland
OK.
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Kev
I chatted briefly to Carol about this, she pretty much confirmed that without a good ideas page, we're not getting in this year.
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Dave Cridland
Bureaucracy 2.0?
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Kev
No, I don't think so, I think this is right.
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stpeter
agreed
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Kev
Carol (and others) have to judge the org. apps. somehow, and ideas pages are important.
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Kev
It just means we need to get ours populated competently.
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Dave Cridland
OK. So is ours OK, or should we be panicking?
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Kev
I think ours is getting there. I'd like to see a little more on it - ideall something from Gajim, as they've frequently contributed in the past.
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stpeter
no need for panic, I think, but a bit more attention would be good perhaps
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stpeter
nod
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Dave Cridland
OK. So actions here are to push on a few more projects, particularly Gajim.
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Kev
So if people can please chase anyone they have contacts with (and would be appropriate), I'd appreciate that.
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Dave Cridland
So .. Athena?
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Dave Cridland
And yes, this is for Kev to report on as well.
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Kev
Some I've not heard back from (Psi, Tigase), others have promised to get something done, and Gajim I've not seen anyone online to poke.
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stpeter
Kev: will do
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Kev
Ta.
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Florian
I'll poke Tigase
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stpeter
thanks, Florian!
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Florian
ok, so Athena?
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Kev
Dave Cridland: I've not seen any disagreement from iteam on a plan of "replace Athena with a new box, and then mirror at least critical (and ideally all) bits of xmpp.org onto a box of Florian's - either ds0039, or the other box if that's still on offer". So I'd like to push forward with that plan.
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Florian
push forward with what?
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Kev
I realise this seems like overkill for hosting a couple of hundred static pages (the XEPs), but given that's our main purpose, it seems important.
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Dave Cridland
Right, I agree.
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Kev
Florian: Someone getting a replacement for Athena in the bunker, and the iteam starting setting up some mirrorring.
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Florian
ok
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Dave Cridland
So we need to have the executive director discuss with the treasurer about sourcing the machine?
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Florian
so we need to get some offers in from HP / Dell for a box?
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Kev
I think having a copy in the states and a copy at yours gives us a pretty good chance for resilience.
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Kev
I don't think athena2 needs to be hugely powerful, FWIW.
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stpeter
right
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Kev
Athena isn't, and we're not replacing her because she's underpowered, justbecause she's falling apart.
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stpeter
the iteam probably needs to do some scoping
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Dave Cridland
OK. I think we find a price, then, and go from there. We've got the money to spend on this, and it's mission critical.
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stpeter
yes
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Kev
Ok, is that an action on iteam to get quotes, then?
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Dave Cridland
Yes, please.
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Kev
(I'll have to let someone else do this, as I'll buy the wrong shape plug or something, I don't do hosting)
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Kev
Ok.
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stpeter
heh
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Dave Cridland
Kev, I've heard they have funny shaped plug over there, yes.
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Kev
I think that's my two items done with, so you Board chaps can carry on with your meeting now :)
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bear
:)
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stpeter
BTW, I have received multiple offers of assistance in the past (hosting, DNS, etc.), but I haven't kept a good log of them
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Dave Cridland
Kev, Thanks.
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Dave Cridland
(Genuinely)
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stpeter
so if we decided that we needed additional mirrors for some reason, I think we could gather some offers
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Dave Cridland
(As in, *no* sarcasm. Which is a shock)
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stpeter
but backup to ds0039 is probably good enough for now
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Kev
stpeter: I think so, yes. ds0039 has worked as our fallback (albeit with painful manual steps) so far.
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stpeter
yes
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stpeter
we'll just work to remove the painful manual steps
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Dave Cridland
So, aside from pointedly not mentioning all the actions we didn't do from last meeting because I forgot to write any minutes, the only other thing is membership elections...
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Dave Cridland
I noticed that the applications page suggests we may hold a meeting next February.
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stpeter
hmm
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stpeter
as in last month?
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Dave Cridland
Who ought to be deciding when the election is? Is this for us to prod Alex, or should we let Alex decide and butt out?
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Dave Cridland
stpeter, Yes, I'd assume so - we've just missed it what with FOSDEM etc.
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stpeter
usually Alex decides, but I think prodding might be in order
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bear
+1 to Alex just doing his thing
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Florian
+1
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stpeter
yeah, that FOSDEM thing kept us busy
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Dave Cridland
And distracted.
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Dave Cridland
Florian, WHat are you actually voting for, there?
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Florian
Bear's suggestion :)
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Dave Cridland
I think we should prod Alex, personally, in this case. I'm assuming it's an oversight, and reminding him that the page is out of date is a sensible thing to do.
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Florian
yup
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stpeter
yes
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Dave Cridland
But if you guys disagree, I shall abide by your decision and just write this up in the minutes. :-)
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Florian
so we'll just announce a voting period opening next week?
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bear
giving alex a nudge wfm
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ralphm
stpeter: I seem to have a potential SoC project involving wokkel sent to me by ploum
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stpeter
ralphm: cool :)
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Dave Cridland
OK. So I think that's us done, unless there's any other business?
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ralphm
stpeter: mentioning you sent them to me
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Florian
Dave Cridland: nothing from here
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stpeter
ralphm: he contacted me, yes
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stpeter
ralphm: I asked him what programming languages he was interested in, and when he said Python I mentioned some projects he might look into
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Dave Cridland
Schedule another meeting for same time next week?
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Florian
wfm
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stpeter
yep
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bear
+1
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Dave Cridland
OK. I motion to adjourn until next week, then.
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bear
seconded
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Dave Cridland
Thanks, all.
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Florian
cheers guys!
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stpeter
calendar updated
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Tobias
bear, is it live streamed?
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Florian
Tobias: no, but TWiT will be covering it :)
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bear
it's live streamed only if someone brave points their camera to the stage
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Tobias
heh
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bear
I just have to ramp up monitoring of the twit web and streaming servers
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stpeter
bbiab
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ralphm
bear: I've read the other day that Apple fans behave as religious fanatics. Does that help you?
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bear
the viewer levels have already exceeded the "normal" range
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bear
ralphm - yes, it helps explain why I don't seem to be able to be one
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Florian
bear: I'm monitoring the flosoft box :)
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bear
florian - that's the one box i'm *not* worried about
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bear
it's the PHP app servers that need extra help
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Florian
bear: if you need additional ressources, tell me :)
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Florian
load it onto our CDN (requires DNS update though)
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Kev
"Honest Florian's Top Server Deals"
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bear
:)
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Florian
:D
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bear
what I need is for the drupal devs to learn how to make the site not fail when switched to static
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bear
i've had to put varnish in front without them knowing
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Dave Cridland
Kev, Florian's banned from using that adjective thanks to EU trade description rules.
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Kev
"Server"? :)
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Florian
fail?
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Kev
To be fair, my Flosoft server is the silliest piece of barely-a-computer imaginable, and it's doing me absolutely fine.
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Kev
Any dedicated server I can afford must be good :)
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Dave Cridland
Dr Kevin Smith, author of such classics as "XMPP: The Definitive Guide", says...
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Florian
haha
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Dave Cridland
... "My FLosoft server is the silliest piece of bare-a-computer imaginable"
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Zash
Haha
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Dave Cridland
I'll never make it in advertising.
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Florian
server=142
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ralphm
bear: http://www.technologytell.com/apple/42656/brand-expert-martin-lindstrom-calls-apple-a-religion/
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