Dave CridlandI take it it's just me and Mike so far?
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Dave CridlandAfternoon Chris.
cchris434good afternoon!
KevDave Cridland: And me. I'm just not sure that counts for anything useful.
stpeterI don't see Ashley online
KevDave: I'd like to throw Athena briefly onto the agenda.
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Florianyhello @ all
Dave CridlandRighty. With three people actively here, I'll declare ourselves quorate.
Florian:)
Dave CridlandSo I *think* the agenda stood at GSoC, but Kev is asking to add Athena - anything else?
Floriannot from my end
Dave CridlandOh. I wouldn't mind raising the membership elections. As in, having some.
Dave CridlandBut we'll start with GSoC.
Dave CridlandKev, What's the status with GSoC?
stpeterloads http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2012 in his browser for review after this meeting
KevDave Cridland: We have an application submitted, we can change it until this Friday. I've sent a copy for review to those people who mailed to say they wanted to help this year.
KevI think that list stands at Me, Peter, Florian, Bear, Alex.
Dave CridlandKev, Any responses/feedback?
Florianyup. It was fine. nothing to add
KevA couple of 'it's fine' noises.
KevI've not heard from everyone yet, though.
KevSo, the application needs to link to an ideas page.
bearit looked ok to me - the app info can be adjusted at any time
Kevbear: Until Friday.
KevOur ideas page is at http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2012
Dave CridlandWithout spinning up a browser, is there anything but Swift on there?
KevI've been mercilessly chasing people to populate it, and that's starting to show some results. If anyone else has contact with appropriate people, please do chase them.
KevSwift, Spectrum, Prosody, BC.
Dave CridlandOK, cool.
KevThe ideas page is a bit odd - we're not accepted, so clearly we don't need ideas yet.
KevBut the application includes the ideas page, and without a solid ideas page, we won't get in.
stpeterright
Dave CridlandOK.
KevI chatted briefly to Carol about this, she pretty much confirmed that without a good ideas page, we're not getting in this year.
Dave CridlandBureaucracy 2.0?
KevNo, I don't think so, I think this is right.
stpeteragreed
KevCarol (and others) have to judge the org. apps. somehow, and ideas pages are important.
KevIt just means we need to get ours populated competently.
Dave CridlandOK. So is ours OK, or should we be panicking?
KevI think ours is getting there. I'd like to see a little more on it - ideall something from Gajim, as they've frequently contributed in the past.
stpeterno need for panic, I think, but a bit more attention would be good perhaps
stpeternod
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Dave CridlandOK. So actions here are to push on a few more projects, particularly Gajim.
KevSo if people can please chase anyone they have contacts with (and would be appropriate), I'd appreciate that.
Dave CridlandSo .. Athena?
Dave CridlandAnd yes, this is for Kev to report on as well.
KevSome I've not heard back from (Psi, Tigase), others have promised to get something done, and Gajim I've not seen anyone online to poke.
stpeterKev: will do
KevTa.
FlorianI'll poke Tigase
stpeterthanks, Florian!
Florianok, so Athena?
KevDave Cridland: I've not seen any disagreement from iteam on a plan of "replace Athena with a new box, and then mirror at least critical (and ideally all) bits of xmpp.org onto a box of Florian's - either ds0039, or the other box if that's still on offer". So I'd like to push forward with that plan.
Florianpush forward with what?
KevI realise this seems like overkill for hosting a couple of hundred static pages (the XEPs), but given that's our main purpose, it seems important.
Dave CridlandRight, I agree.
KevFlorian: Someone getting a replacement for Athena in the bunker, and the iteam starting setting up some mirrorring.
Florianok
Dave CridlandSo we need to have the executive director discuss with the treasurer about sourcing the machine?
Florianso we need to get some offers in from HP / Dell for a box?
KevI think having a copy in the states and a copy at yours gives us a pretty good chance for resilience.
KevI don't think athena2 needs to be hugely powerful, FWIW.
stpeterright
KevAthena isn't, and we're not replacing her because she's underpowered, justbecause she's falling apart.
stpeterthe iteam probably needs to do some scoping
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Dave CridlandOK. I think we find a price, then, and go from there. We've got the money to spend on this, and it's mission critical.
stpeteryes
KevOk, is that an action on iteam to get quotes, then?
Dave CridlandYes, please.
Kev(I'll have to let someone else do this, as I'll buy the wrong shape plug or something, I don't do hosting)
KevOk.
stpeterheh
Dave CridlandKev, I've heard they have funny shaped plug over there, yes.
KevI think that's my two items done with, so you Board chaps can carry on with your meeting now :)
bear:)
stpeterBTW, I have received multiple offers of assistance in the past (hosting, DNS, etc.), but I haven't kept a good log of them
Dave CridlandKev, Thanks.
Dave Cridland(Genuinely)
stpeterso if we decided that we needed additional mirrors for some reason, I think we could gather some offers
Dave Cridland(As in, *no* sarcasm. Which is a shock)
stpeterbut backup to ds0039 is probably good enough for now
Kevstpeter: I think so, yes. ds0039 has worked as our fallback (albeit with painful manual steps) so far.
stpeteryes
stpeterwe'll just work to remove the painful manual steps
Dave CridlandSo, aside from pointedly not mentioning all the actions we didn't do from last meeting because I forgot to write any minutes, the only other thing is membership elections...
Dave CridlandI noticed that the applications page suggests we may hold a meeting next February.
stpeterhmm
stpeteras in last month?
Dave CridlandWho ought to be deciding when the election is? Is this for us to prod Alex, or should we let Alex decide and butt out?
Dave Cridlandstpeter, Yes, I'd assume so - we've just missed it what with FOSDEM etc.
stpeterusually Alex decides, but I think prodding might be in order
bear+1 to Alex just doing his thing
Florian+1
stpeteryeah, that FOSDEM thing kept us busy
Dave CridlandAnd distracted.
Dave CridlandFlorian, WHat are you actually voting for, there?
FlorianBear's suggestion :)
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Dave CridlandI think we should prod Alex, personally, in this case. I'm assuming it's an oversight, and reminding him that the page is out of date is a sensible thing to do.
Florianyup
stpeteryes
Dave CridlandBut if you guys disagree, I shall abide by your decision and just write this up in the minutes. :-)
Florianso we'll just announce a voting period opening next week?
beargiving alex a nudge wfm
ralphm stpeter: I seem to have a potential SoC project involving wokkel sent to me by ploum
stpeterralphm: cool :)
Dave CridlandOK. So I think that's us done, unless there's any other business?
ralphmstpeter: mentioning you sent them to me
FlorianDave Cridland: nothing from here
stpeterralphm: he contacted me, yes
stpeterralphm: I asked him what programming languages he was interested in, and when he said Python I mentioned some projects he might look into
Dave CridlandSchedule another meeting for same time next week?
Florianwfm
stpeteryep
bear+1
Dave CridlandOK. I motion to adjourn until next week, then.
bearseconded
Dave CridlandThanks, all.
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Floriancheers guys!
bearwaves and goes to find out how to be an apple fanboy for the next couple of hours
stpetercalendar updated
Tobiasbear, is it live streamed?
FlorianTobias: no, but TWiT will be covering it :)
bearit's live streamed only if someone brave points their camera to the stage
Tobiasheh
bearI just have to ramp up monitoring of the twit web and streaming servers
stpeterbbiab
ralphmbear: I've read the other day that Apple fans behave as religious fanatics. Does that help you?
bearthe viewer levels have already exceeded the "normal" range
bearralphm - yes, it helps explain why I don't seem to be able to be one
Florianbear: I'm monitoring the flosoft box :)
bearflorian - that's the one box i'm *not* worried about
bearit's the PHP app servers that need extra help
Florianbear: if you need additional ressources, tell me :)
Florianload it onto our CDN (requires DNS update though)
Kev"Honest Florian's Top Server Deals"
bear:)
Florian:D
bearwhat I need is for the drupal devs to learn how to make the site not fail when switched to static
beari've had to put varnish in front without them knowing
Dave CridlandKev, Florian's banned from using that adjective thanks to EU trade description rules.
Kev"Server"? :)
Florianfail?
KevTo be fair, my Flosoft server is the silliest piece of barely-a-computer imaginable, and it's doing me absolutely fine.
KevAny dedicated server I can afford must be good :)
Dave CridlandDr Kevin Smith, author of such classics as "XMPP: The Definitive Guide", says...
Florianhaha
Dave Cridland... "My FLosoft server is the silliest piece of bare-a-computer imaginable"