XSF Discussion - 2012-06-15

and Chris

I've poked Dave.

Kev: thanks

I don't see Florian online

*sigh*

Sorry, folks, I'm in a world of craziness.

yeah

fwiw, i'll be mulititasking

well, at least you guys are quorate, if bear is paying attention :)

:)

heh

i'll be there for krtconf and also before and after

great

going to combine krtconf with some holiday time

It's cunningly timed so I can't be.

cunning, eh?

Kev, It is?

Dave Cridland: See the staff calendar.

Kev, Assuming our illustrious CEO hasn't wiped it again. :-)

KRT is 24th Oct or so, isn't it?

so the question is, do folks think this is the best time and place to hold a Summit in North America for 2012? I would be sorry not to have Kev there

Kev: KRT is 24+24

er

23 + 24

Summit would be 25

(if we decide that one day is enough)

I think if we want a NA summit (and I think we do) then KRTConf is perfect for it.

Dave Cridland: yes, I think so too

+1

In theory it's possible for me to travel on the 24th to get there for the 25. If Isode want to send me.

I will need to figure out the logistics of a place to meet etc., although Adam said he would connect me to the folks at &yet who are working that side of things

We had two days for the EU summit - do we imagine we'll have less to discuss in the US (or that the two days for Brussels were overkill)?

and worst comes to worst there's a Cisco office in Portland, although it's somewhat on the edge of town IIRC

Kev: I think that if we were better organized, we could have one full day

I don't think I organized the last Brussels meeting very well

ISTR it going pretty well, but OK.

but I was rather busy at the time with IETF madness

another option is to have a Summit on Thursday and then a (smaller?) gathering on Friday

I thought the summit went well, too.

I think we'll get some overflow from KRT into Thursday

I'm happy to do two days, but I'd like to know costs, too.

BTW I will be helping Adam recruit speakers for KRT, and feel free to do some of that yourselves (or volunteer to give a talk): http://blog.krtconf.com/post/24012727201/krtconf-2012-call-for-speakers

in any case, if we think this is a good idea I can post to the website and start organizing the logistics a bit

I think it's a fine idea. If we can get a second day, that seems fine too.

I'd also suggest doing an XSF Dinner in Portland, too.

Does Portland do ribs or steak? :)

So, in my view, go ahead and post.

mozilla has an office (or soon will) in Portland

Kev, There may be Kev-compatible food.

so we may have more resources than just cisco

bear: good to know!

bear: thanks

kev: I'm sure we can find that, yes

yes, portland has quite a few meat options to pick from :)

Dave Cridland: yes on dinner, probably Thursday evening

Right - I must dash, really, got to be a Daddy-taxi, so:

Then there's just the problem of finding people who speak English...

heehee

I say Peter should go ahead and organize things.

Kev, It's OK, my Spanish is passable.

ISTR having a really good burger last time I was in Portland.

as to two days, my concern was not cutting into people's weekends, especially for folks who have a long way to travel

but I'm open to 1 day, 1.5 days, or 2 days

Right, I'm off, sorry - but number of days we can decide based on logistics and cost later.

yes

agreed

so I'll at least start our organizational activities and we can meet again in a few weeks to figure out more details

lets find out from &yet what the options are and meet again?

Thanks.

bear: yes

coolness - thanks

anything else for today?

not that I know of

ok

ok

motion to end

later then

+1

thanks, guys

welcom

bah, missed it

bah!

we're fast!

ralphm: basic idea is to hold the next Summit on the day or two after krtconf http://blog.krtconf.com/post/24012727201/krtconf-2012-call-for-speakers

ok

so for next FOSDEM we had decided to do the two days ahead of FOSDEM

not sure if we would need to do the same here

ralphm: &yet is holding a redis conference on the day before krtconf, so the day or two after krtconf makes more sense this time

right

ok

I think it's a great idea anyway

cool

BTW, Adam said that krtconf will be capped at ~200 people

so if you want to be there, you'll want to pay attention and sign up early

I put in my e-mail address

yay for email ;-)

http://xmpp.org/2012/06/xmpp-summit/

Thanks Peter.

sure thing

sorry about the American spellings ;-)

Forgiven.

Kev: if needed, we can set up live translation between English and American at the meeting ;-)

OK.

Assuming someone wants to send me there :)

assuming, yes

12000 miles for one day of conference seems a little excessive.

yeah

I'm not wedded to one day

I just want to make sure the time is productive

although the conversations at the last few Summits have been interesting, I don't feel that we've followed up as needed to make those ideas a reality

I think there might be value in doing two days - one as a day of internal presentations, and one as a discussion day.

Kev: quite possibly, yes

I should have more time to organize the event this time, if we want it to be more organized ;-)

As there are people doing interesting non-OSS stuff with XMPP that I'd like to hear talks by, and isn't really FOSDEM compatible (I'm thinking of Echobit in particular).

we could also possibly have tracks or breakouts -- e.g., I know a fair number of people doing Internet of Things / machine-to-machine stuff with XMPP these days

Perhaps we could work on the theory that there will be talks, and there will be discussions, and ask what topics and what talks people would like.

Then we can decide to have an IoT track as appropriate.

indeed

and I always believe that cross-pollination is a good idea

I'd like the IoT guys to give an IoT 101, personally.

true