XSF Discussion - 2012-06-15

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    and Chris

  20. Kev

    I've poked Dave.

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    Kev: thanks

  23. stpeter

    I don't see Florian online

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    Sorry, folks, I'm in a world of craziness.

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  28. Ashley

    fwiw, i'll be mulititasking

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    well, at least you guys are quorate, if bear is paying attention :)

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  36. bear

    i'll be there for krtconf and also before and after

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  38. bear

    going to combine krtconf with some holiday time

  39. Kev

    It's cunningly timed so I can't be.

  40. stpeter

    cunning, eh?

  41. Dave Cridland

    Kev, It is?

  42. Kev

    Dave Cridland: See the staff calendar.

  43. Dave Cridland

    Kev, Assuming our illustrious CEO hasn't wiped it again. :-)

  44. Kev

    KRT is 24th Oct or so, isn't it?

  45. stpeter

    so the question is, do folks think this is the best time and place to hold a Summit in North America for 2012? I would be sorry not to have Kev there

  46. stpeter

    Kev: KRT is 24+24

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  48. stpeter

    23 + 24

  49. stpeter

    Summit would be 25

  50. stpeter

    (if we decide that one day is enough)

  51. Dave Cridland

    I think if we want a NA summit (and I think we do) then KRTConf is perfect for it.

  52. stpeter

    Dave Cridland: yes, I think so too

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  54. Kev

    In theory it's possible for me to travel on the 24th to get there for the 25. If Isode want to send me.

  55. stpeter

    I will need to figure out the logistics of a place to meet etc., although Adam said he would connect me to the folks at &yet who are working that side of things

  56. Kev

    We had two days for the EU summit - do we imagine we'll have less to discuss in the US (or that the two days for Brussels were overkill)?

  57. stpeter

    and worst comes to worst there's a Cisco office in Portland, although it's somewhat on the edge of town IIRC

  58. stpeter

    Kev: I think that if we were better organized, we could have one full day

  59. stpeter

    I don't think I organized the last Brussels meeting very well

  60. Kev

    ISTR it going pretty well, but OK.

  61. stpeter

    but I was rather busy at the time with IETF madness

  62. stpeter

    another option is to have a Summit on Thursday and then a (smaller?) gathering on Friday

  63. Dave Cridland

    I thought the summit went well, too.

  64. stpeter

    I think we'll get some overflow from KRT into Thursday

  65. Dave Cridland

    I'm happy to do two days, but I'd like to know costs, too.

  66. stpeter

    BTW I will be helping Adam recruit speakers for KRT, and feel free to do some of that yourselves (or volunteer to give a talk): http://blog.krtconf.com/post/24012727201/krtconf-2012-call-for-speakers

  67. stpeter

    in any case, if we think this is a good idea I can post to the website and start organizing the logistics a bit

  68. Dave Cridland

    I think it's a fine idea. If we can get a second day, that seems fine too.

  69. Dave Cridland

    I'd also suggest doing an XSF Dinner in Portland, too.

  70. Kev

    Does Portland do ribs or steak? :)

  71. Dave Cridland

    So, in my view, go ahead and post.

  72. bear

    mozilla has an office (or soon will) in Portland

  73. Dave Cridland

    Kev, There may be Kev-compatible food.

  74. bear

    so we may have more resources than just cisco

  75. stpeter

    bear: good to know!

  76. stpeter

    bear: thanks

  77. stpeter

    kev: I'm sure we can find that, yes

  78. bear

    yes, portland has quite a few meat options to pick from :)

  79. stpeter

    Dave Cridland: yes on dinner, probably Thursday evening

  80. Dave Cridland

    Right - I must dash, really, got to be a Daddy-taxi, so:

  81. Kev

    Then there's just the problem of finding people who speak English...

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  83. Dave Cridland

    I say Peter should go ahead and organize things.

  84. Dave Cridland

    Kev, It's OK, my Spanish is passable.

  85. Kev

    ISTR having a really good burger last time I was in Portland.

  86. stpeter

    as to two days, my concern was not cutting into people's weekends, especially for folks who have a long way to travel

  87. stpeter

    but I'm open to 1 day, 1.5 days, or 2 days

  88. Dave Cridland

    Right, I'm off, sorry - but number of days we can decide based on logistics and cost later.

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  91. bear nods

  92. stpeter

    so I'll at least start our organizational activities and we can meet again in a few weeks to figure out more details

  93. bear

    lets find out from &yet what the options are and meet again?

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  95. stpeter

    bear: yes

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    coolness - thanks

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    anything else for today?

  98. bear

    not that I know of

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  101. stpeter logs into WordPress and writes a blog post

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    motion to end

  103. bear

    later then

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  106. stpeter

    thanks, guys

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    bah, missed it

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  111. Ashley

    we're fast!

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  113. stpeter

    ralphm: basic idea is to hold the next Summit on the day or two after krtconf http://blog.krtconf.com/post/24012727201/krtconf-2012-call-for-speakers

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  115. ralphm

    so for next FOSDEM we had decided to do the two days ahead of FOSDEM

  116. ralphm

    not sure if we would need to do the same here

  117. stpeter

    ralphm: &yet is holding a redis conference on the day before krtconf, so the day or two after krtconf makes more sense this time

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  120. ralphm

    I think it's a great idea anyway

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  122. stpeter

    BTW, Adam said that krtconf will be capped at ~200 people

  123. stpeter

    so if you want to be there, you'll want to pay attention and sign up early

  124. ralphm

    I put in my e-mail address

  125. stpeter

    yay for email ;-)

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  127. Kev

    Thanks Peter.

  128. stpeter

    sure thing

  129. stpeter

    sorry about the American spellings ;-)

  130. Kev


  131. stpeter

    Kev: if needed, we can set up live translation between English and American at the meeting ;-)

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  133. Kev

    Assuming someone wants to send me there :)

  134. stpeter

    assuming, yes

  135. Kev

    12000 miles for one day of conference seems a little excessive.

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  137. stpeter

    I'm not wedded to one day

  138. stpeter

    I just want to make sure the time is productive

  139. stpeter

    although the conversations at the last few Summits have been interesting, I don't feel that we've followed up as needed to make those ideas a reality

  140. Kev

    I think there might be value in doing two days - one as a day of internal presentations, and one as a discussion day.

  141. stpeter

    Kev: quite possibly, yes

  142. stpeter

    I should have more time to organize the event this time, if we want it to be more organized ;-)

  143. Kev

    As there are people doing interesting non-OSS stuff with XMPP that I'd like to hear talks by, and isn't really FOSDEM compatible (I'm thinking of Echobit in particular).

  144. stpeter

    we could also possibly have tracks or breakouts -- e.g., I know a fair number of people doing Internet of Things / machine-to-machine stuff with XMPP these days

  145. Kev

    Perhaps we could work on the theory that there will be talks, and there will be discussions, and ask what topics and what talks people would like.

  146. Kev

    Then we can decide to have an IoT track as appropriate.

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  148. stpeter

    and I always believe that cross-pollination is a good idea

  149. Kev

    I'd like the IoT guys to give an IoT 101, personally.

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