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arcriley
hey ashley
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stpeter
one more hour, no?
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bear
correct
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Florian
hi all
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Simon
Hey Florian.
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arcriley
howdy
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intosi
Hi
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Dave Cridland
Good greebling to one and all.
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arcriley
wow we may actually have quorum
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bear
:)
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intosi
Madness
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Simon
what's the plan for the summit hotel?
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Dave Cridland
I think you should definitely get a hotel.
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Simon
I was personally quite happy with the last one -
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Simon
Aloft.
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stpeter
Simon: someone said the travel was a bit inconvenient
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bear
florian - go ahead and start the meeting
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Florian
cools
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intosi
Travel and ENOBACON
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stpeter
I would like to officially request warmer weather this year!!!
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Florian
haha
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Florian
at the moment it doesn't look too cold
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Dave Cridland
Yeah, I think it was quite nice (modulo breakfast), but also being out of the centre gave us, I thought, a bit of a village atmosphere - I think a lot of useful chatter happened in the evenings and so on.
- bear is just happy to actually be going this year
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Simon
I personally didn't have a problem with it for Cisco. That said it was closer to the FOSDEM venue.
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Florian
ok, so I've been in touch with some hotels today
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Florian
and got 3 offers
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Florian
I don't know if you guys remember the Best Western in the centre
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Florian
(the bunker one)
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stpeter
Dave: that's a good point
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Florian
Chambres : 12 chambres Date : du 30.01.2013 au 03.02.2013 – 4 nuits Prix Spécial : € 129 la chambre single par nuit au lieu de € 330 par chambre par nuit (Net) € 159 la chambre double par nuit au lieu de € 350 par chambre par nuit (Net) Ces prix sont net, TVA, et petit-déjeuner buffet inclus. Ces prix excluent € 8 City Tax par chambre par nuit.
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Dave Cridland
Each quote in a different language...
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Florian
haha
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Florian
so it's 129€ for a single room
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Dave Cridland
Buffet breakfast included. I didn't stay there, no opinion. (And no say, since I'm not coming this year).
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Florian
and then I got 2 quotes
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Florian
one for the Meridien and the ALoft
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Simon
the Aloft works out about 70pp sharing a twin room.
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Florian
LE MERIDIEN BRUSSELS (5*) Aankomst: 30 januari 2013 Vertrek: 03 februari 2013 Kamers: 10 singles Tarieven – geldig voor 10 kamers of meer: Nacht 30 & 31 januari 2013 229 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen Nacht 01 & 02 februari 2013 129 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen ALOFT BRUSSELS SCHUMAN (3*) Aankomst: 30 januari 2013 Vertrek: 03 februari 2013 Kamers: 10 singles Tarieven – geldig voor 10 kamers of meer: Nacht 30 & 31 januari 2013 169 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen Nacht 01 & 02 februari 2013 79 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
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Florian
which means the ALoft is the cheapest
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stpeter
really, aloft was fine with me
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Simon
+1
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stpeter
a bit cheesy, but hey :)
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Florian
the ALoft was quite fun
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Florian
a bit more of a community feeling than the others
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stpeter
maybe I'm just not hip enough :P
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Florian
with the bar and the Wii
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Dave Cridland
Florian, is it worth looking at minibus rental or anything, to mitigate the travel?
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intosi
I was about to write just that, Florian.
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Dave Cridland
Florian, Although preferably not with you driving.
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Florian
haha
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Simon
For me it's really just travelling the one day-
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intosi
I could do some driving, if needed.
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Florian
the question is ... minibus from / to?
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bear
let's settle the hotel issue first...
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Florian
yeah
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Dave Cridland
Florian, I meant FOSDEM <-> ALoft.
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bear
any reason to not go with aloft since it's 1) known and 2) affordable
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Simon
is a minibus during rush hour really going to be quicker?
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Florian
Simon: unlikely
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Florian
bit it's weekend
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Dave Cridland
Simon, Convenience as well as speed, though.
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Florian
so it's fine
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Simon
I presume the minibus is to get to Cisco?
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Florian
Minibus is not big enough for everyone though
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Florian
or how small are we talking?
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Florian
the other issue is parking
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Simon
for Aloft to FOSDEM a taxi at Euro 5pp seems fine to me.
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Dave Cridland
Right, I was assuming shuttle from FOSDEM rather than transit to Diegem.
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stpeter
oh, the public transit is fun, though
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Simon
I think we are overthinking this.
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Florian
I agree
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Florian
I'd say, Minibus is too complicated
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Florian
so for Hotel ... ALoft?
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Simon
I'm down.
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bear
+1 aloft
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Dave Cridland
Simon, Surely you're up if you're aloft?
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Simon
:)
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Florian
alright
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Florian
I'll get that sorted tomorrow then
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Florian
giving Saskia a call :)
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Florian
right ...
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Florian
Minibus issue done?
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stpeter
Florian: yes
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Florian
next up .. Dinner
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Florian
given the Summit is now on Thursday / Friday
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Dave Cridland
Yes, good point.
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Florian
I was thinking, let's do the dinner still on Saturday after FOSDEM
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Florian
I think people will still be there for the Saturday
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stpeter
I would think so, yes
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Dave Cridland
Except people will be leaving Sunday, and it's a useful way to break the ice.
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Florian
the alternative would be Thursday
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bear
anyone only going to the summit will not be present sat night
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Dave Cridland
I'd lean toward having it earlier (ie, Thursday).
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bear
(I know I won't be)
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Florian
ok
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Florian
I'll see if we can do Thursday evening then
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Dave Cridland
Same place, I assume?
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Florian
I don't mind
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Florian
easiest place to sort
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Dave Cridland
I think there'd be riots if you picked anywhere else.
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bear
:)
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intosi
It's a tradition.
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Florian
hehe
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Simon
and very good.
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intosi
Break one parameter a year, no more than that.
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Florian
alright ... then we just need to find some sponsors :)
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Lance
let's not do everything differently now that bear gets to come :p
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stpeter
Lance: :)
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Florian
so if anyone knows anyone willing to sponsor, tell them to give me a shout :)
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Florian
:D
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Florian
alright, I'll sort that tomorrow as well
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stpeter
Florian: I have some ideas about people we can poke :)
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Florian
great :)
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Dave Cridland
As do I.
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bear
we should do a short blog post about the details once they are settled
- Simon is willing to be poked a bit.
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stpeter
bear: yep
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Florian
will do
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Florian
I'll get those details confirmed tomorrow
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bear
florian - poke &Yet about the dinner
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Florian
:)
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Florian
anything else on the dinner?
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stpeter
nope
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Dave Cridland
Do they do delivery?
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Florian
haha
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stpeter
Dave Cridland: not to Wales, I'm afraid
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Florian
you would need to sort a courier
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Florian
Dave Cridland: only to London :D
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bear
I'll drop a parcel from the plan as I fly over london
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bear
+e
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Dave Cridland
bear, You won't fly over Wales, though. :-(
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bear
I could try, but I think the airline would frown on the method
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intosi
bear: toss it at an angle
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Simon
What's the plan for the realtime lounge?
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Florian
so, similar to next year
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Florian
we still have the furniture at Cisco
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Florian
I think we should check what's there
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stpeter
yes
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Simon
Aeron chairs in the RT lounge?
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Simon
sounds more upmarket :)
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Florian
:)
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intosi
More chairs would be nice.
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stpeter
Florian: I can ping my contacts in Diegem
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Florian
we can check what's there
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Florian
on Thursday / Friday
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stpeter
we should have taken inventory last year :)
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Florian
and drop by Ikea again
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stpeter
Florian: ah, true
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stpeter
n/m
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Dave Cridland
Also, there's t-shirt stock that's a sunk cost, so spending a bit at Ikea again isn't a problem.
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Florian
true
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Florian
anything else on RTL?
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Dave Cridland
I think there's even a hoodie or ten.
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Florian
I guess that's a no :)
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Florian
so moving on to Speakers :)
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Florian
I haven't had time to check the mails
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Florian
but how are we looking on that front?
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stpeter
Florian: I can make a rough agenda tonight
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Kev
[Going back to the hotel point - Aloft wasn't bad, breakfast was pretty poor but tolerable for a couple of days, getting to FOSDEM was convenient on public travel, and we went to Diegem en masse, so I'm not opposed to going back]
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stpeter
Kev: agreed on breakfast
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bear
florian - i was going to go thru the mail tonight and update the wiki
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Florian
Kev: alright :)
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Florian
bear: great
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bear
so we know for sure how many speakers we have
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stpeter
bear: ok great
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Florian
next ... hoodies / t-shirts?
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Simon
I saw a rather lousy proposal about buddycloud but the rest of the speech proposals all looked great.
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bear
I don't think we have too many yet - my memory is telling me we have 6
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stpeter
bear: I also heard from Waqas that he would like to give a talk, but I told him to post to the list
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Simon
Waqas will make it?
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Florian
he should, yes
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bear
yep, if it's not in the list then I won't count it
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stpeter
Simon: that's the hope
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stpeter
Simon: visas can be difficult to come by etc., but we're all pitching in on that front
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bear
if we know someone who could make it but can't swing the hotel - let me know - I was planning on going on my own dime but now work is paying for it, so I have that cost covered
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Florian
:)
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Florian
next up ... T-Shirts / Hoodies?
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Florian
no discussions about those yet
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Florian
do we want them
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Florian
can we still get them?
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Dave Cridland
There is some stock. QUite a lot of t-shirts, a few hoodies.
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stpeter
hm
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Florian
the design from last year was very popular
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stpeter
right
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intosi
Hoodies were big last year, partly due to the low temperatures.
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Florian
indeed
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Kev
For talks, I'll give my standard offer - I have nothing interesting to say, but if someone has a topic they'd like me to talk about I'm happy to (assuming I know anything about it). Golly I'm lagging behind this meeting.
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intosi
The only shirts left are the sick-coloured ones, if I recall correctly.
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stpeter
intosi: :)
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fippo
kev: fmuc vs dmuc showdown? :-)
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Dave Cridland
intosi, No, I'm pretty sure we had boxes of the block ones too. We started with 200, and they weren't selling *that* fast.
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intosi
Dave: ah, okay.
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Dave Cridland
Kev, fippo - standards development by mud wrestling.
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Dave Cridland
Black ones.
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Dave Cridland
That's what I meant.
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Dave Cridland
Not "block ones". No Minecraft styling here.
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Florian
:)
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intosi
Dove Cridlond, we understood you the first time.
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Florian
should we try and get some more?
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stpeter
http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/Summit_13#Participants udpated
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stpeter
updated even
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Kev
stpeter: If you still hae it open, can you pop me on please?
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stpeter
yep
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Kev
Else I'll try to find my wiki creds.
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Florian
and me :)
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Simon
Florian: any chance of some more mobile viking sim cards?
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Florian
no free ones, but I can buy some
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Dave Cridland
Kev, Are wiki creds like street creds, only less cool?
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stpeter
Kev and Florian added
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Kev
More cool.
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Florian
stpeter: ta
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Kev
stpeter: Thanks.
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Simon
I'd happily sign-up for a SIM card for the four days.
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stpeter
fippo added too :)
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Florian
so yeah, coming back to the t-shirts / hoodies
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intosi
Shirts seem to become less popular every year.
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Florian
should we order some more ?
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Florian
or some other merch?
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intosi
Mugs, polo shirts?
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Dave Cridland
Yeah. The place I got the hoodies from now do a bunch of other clothing. However, I'd note that we barely scraped even last year.
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intosi
Pens?
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Kev
I'd be more inclined to get other stuff, if I'm honest, than t-shurts.
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Dave Cridland
Pens might be cool.
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stpeter
mugs are kind of heavy
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Dave Cridland
Should be able to get some cheap enough to give away.
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Florian
and break easily in transit
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intosi
Stickers were popular some years ago.
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stpeter
yeah
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Florian
yeah, let's get stickers
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stpeter
intosi: true
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Kev
Mugs or Polo shirts or pens I might buy, but equally if we're making a loss on these things and it's a nuisance to arrange, what do they gain us?
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Florian
some branding
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intosi
Stickers should be cheap enough to give away.
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Florian
I'd say, stickers and pens?
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Simon
stickers with a place to write in your XMPP address would be nice.
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intosi
Simon: good idea
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arcriley
great idea
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Florian
I like that :)
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Simon
then slap it onto your laptop and immediate friends.
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stpeter
and you can write the JID using the pen! brilliant! :)
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Florian
:)
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Florian
who wants to take charge on that?
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stpeter
and if you write it really fast, it'll be an instant message ;-)
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Florian
and maybe come up with some designs?
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intosi
Glossy stickers are notable for their ability to withstand writing..
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Florian
stpeter: lol
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stpeter
no volunteers for designs, I see :)
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Florian
:)
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Kev
Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not an artist.
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arcriley
im looking at sticker printers finding one suitable for that
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intosi
I only draw for medicinal purposes.
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bear
let me ask if one of the creative types here can help - no promises but i'll ask
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Florian
awesome :)
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Simon
IMHO sticker printing has a longish lead time. Especially for cutouts.
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arcriley
stickermule stickers are great, but yes, glossy, you'd need fine tip sharpies
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arcriley
Simon, you can pay for expidite
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Florian
I've got to run in a few mins ...
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Florian
is there anything else?
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Florian
I'll take a look around for sticker places too
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Florian
see how quickly they can print
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Dave Cridland
"Hello, my jid is" stickers sound awesome.
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bear
do we have artwork handy for the logo?
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Dave Cridland
Yes
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arcriley
you mean the xmpp svg? yes.
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bear
I may order some "bear sized" tshirts for myself
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Florian
:)
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Dave Cridland
bear, I can give you the EPS artwork.
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bear
cool
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intosi
I mis ye olde lightbulb of yore. Made a better logo for shirts and caps.
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Dave Cridland
(For the "Black", and the "Hoodie")
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Kev
intosi: It did, it did.
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stpeter
intosi: for sure
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bear
either the muc lag got really bad for everyone, or I sense an end to the meeting?
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stpeter
:)
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Kev
Seems to have pretty much calmed down.
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arcriley
seems like it
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Dave Cridland
The lag has got so bad for everyone that Kev';s caught up.
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bear
should we plan to meet again next board meeting (which would be at it's normal time)
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arcriley
yes
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bear
i.e. next week, just after the tech council
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stpeter
BTW, I have the Cisco rooms reserved, will work on catering plans next week
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bear
ta
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bear
ok, let's make that a plan then - adjourned till next board meeting
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stpeter
http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/Summit_13#Participants just got a lot bigger, we'll see who else is interested
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stpeter
bear: WFM, let's chat later or tomorrow about the talks
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Kev
Thanks all.
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stpeter
I'll ping Waqas about posting to the summit@ list
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arcriley
ok back to julython
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bear
thanks Florian for doing all of this work to make the Summit awesome
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arcriley
those pesky Django devs took our first place slot, we want it back :-)
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arcriley
http://www.julython.org/teams/
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bear
good luck arc
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arcriley
its a completely silly race, see who can make the most commits, but its a great motivator for the teams
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arcriley
bear, you doing julython?
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stpeter
arcriley: just make lots of smaller commits, one for each line of code even :)
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bear
I was
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stpeter
ok, thanks all, and especially to Florian!
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arcriley
stpeter, you missed how we got the lead to begin with - Jan 1st, start of the program, I ran a sed script on every project i maintain updating the copyright years. 132 points right there (10 points per repo you contribute to, 1 per commit)
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Dave Cridland
while true; do echo '.' >>julyathon; git add julyathon; git commit -m 'And another'; git push origin master; done
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stpeter
arcriley: heehee
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arcriley
i do that every year tho, so its not defeating the spirit of the game :-)
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arcriley
since their first commit to a repo is worth 11 points im using it to get the opengl kids to play with our xmpp library stuff :-)
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Dave Cridland
Oh, you get more points if it's different users?
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arcriley
yea each user who makes a commit to each repo is 10 points
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arcriley
if you do python stuff you should join, its a lot of fun. there may be swag in it.
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Dave Cridland
OK. My script needs some work, then.
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Dave Cridland
arcriley, Ah, btu I currently don't do Python stuff.
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arcriley
gotcha
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Dave Cridland
arcriley, And, recall, I am EVIL and do closed source things anyway. :-)
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arcriley
ah thats right. you're demon-tainted. :-)
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Dave Cridland
Forked tail, horns. Yup.
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fippo
but aren't you subversive and there do closed source things generated by python code? I'd be somewhat disappointed otherwise
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intosi
No Dave, that's BSD right there. See where the confusion comes from, though.
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arcriley
well my secret weapon is all the concordance related repos, all waiting on nodetree and mod_xmpp. almost there. i havent updated the copyright years on those repos yet since im not actively working on them
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arcriley
thats another.... 99 points, at least
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Dave Cridland
fippo, I'm officially subversive, actually. According to British Intelligence.
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