Dave CridlandI think you should definitely get a hotel.
SimonI was personally quite happy with the last one -
SimonAloft.
Dave Cridlandis Official SUpplier Of Helpful Comments.
stpeterSimon: someone said the travel was a bit inconvenient
bearflorian - go ahead and start the meeting
Floriancools
intosiTravel and ENOBACON
stpeterI would like to officially request warmer weather this year!!!
Florianhaha
Florianat the moment it doesn't look too cold
Dave CridlandYeah, I think it was quite nice (modulo breakfast), but also being out of the centre gave us, I thought, a bit of a village atmosphere - I think a lot of useful chatter happened in the evenings and so on.
bearis just happy to actually be going this year
SimonI personally didn't have a problem with it for Cisco. That said it was closer to the FOSDEM venue.
Simonlooks forward to meeting the Bear.
Florianok, so I've been in touch with some hotels today
Florianand got 3 offers
FlorianI don't know if you guys remember the Best Western in the centre
Florian(the bunker one)
stpeterDave: that's a good point
FlorianChambres : 12 chambres
Date : du 30.01.2013 au 03.02.2013 – 4 nuits
Prix Spécial : € 129 la chambre single par nuit au lieu de € 330 par chambre par nuit (Net)
€ 159 la chambre double par nuit au lieu de € 350 par chambre par nuit (Net)
Ces prix sont net, TVA, et petit-déjeuner buffet inclus. Ces prix excluent € 8 City Tax par chambre par nuit.
Dave CridlandEach quote in a different language...
Florianhaha
Florianso it's 129€ for a single room
Dave CridlandBuffet breakfast included. I didn't stay there, no opinion. (And no say, since I'm not coming this year).
Florianand then I got 2 quotes
Florianone for the Meridien and the ALoft
Simonthe Aloft works out about 70pp sharing a twin room.
FlorianLE MERIDIEN BRUSSELS (5*)
Aankomst: 30 januari 2013
Vertrek: 03 februari 2013
Kamers: 10 singles
Tarieven – geldig voor 10 kamers of meer:
Nacht 30 & 31 januari 2013
229 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
Nacht 01 & 02 februari 2013
129 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
ALOFT BRUSSELS SCHUMAN (3*)
Aankomst: 30 januari 2013
Vertrek: 03 februari 2013
Kamers: 10 singles
Tarieven – geldig voor 10 kamers of meer:
Nacht 30 & 31 januari 2013
169 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
Nacht 01 & 02 februari 2013
79 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
Florianwhich means the ALoft is the cheapest
stpeterreally, aloft was fine with me
Simon+1
stpetera bit cheesy, but hey :)
Florianthe ALoft was quite fun
Floriana bit more of a community feeling than the others
stpetermaybe I'm just not hip enough :P
Florianwith the bar and the Wii
Dave CridlandFlorian, is it worth looking at minibus rental or anything, to mitigate the travel?
intosiI was about to write just that, Florian.
Dave CridlandFlorian, Although preferably not with you driving.
Florianhaha
Dave Cridlandshudders.
SimonFor me it's really just travelling the one day-
intosiI could do some driving, if needed.
Florianthe question is ... minibus from / to?
bearlet's settle the hotel issue first...
Florianyeah
Dave CridlandFlorian, I meant FOSDEM <-> ALoft.
bearany reason to not go with aloft since it's 1) known and 2) affordable
Simonis a minibus during rush hour really going to be quicker?
FlorianSimon: unlikely
Florianbit it's weekend
Dave CridlandSimon, Convenience as well as speed, though.
Florianso it's fine
SimonI presume the minibus is to get to Cisco?
FlorianMinibus is not big enough for everyone though
Florianor how small are we talking?
Florianthe other issue is parking
Simonfor Aloft to FOSDEM a taxi at Euro 5pp seems fine to me.
Dave CridlandRight, I was assuming shuttle from FOSDEM rather than transit to Diegem.
stpeteroh, the public transit is fun, though
SimonI think we are overthinking this.
FlorianI agree
FlorianI'd say, Minibus is too complicated
Florianso for Hotel ... ALoft?
SimonI'm down.
bear+1 aloft
Dave CridlandSimon, Surely you're up if you're aloft?
Simon:)
Florianalright
FlorianI'll get that sorted tomorrow then
Floriangiving Saskia a call :)
Florianright ...
FlorianMinibus issue done?
stpeterFlorian: yes
Floriannext up .. Dinner
Floriangiven the Summit is now on Thursday / Friday
Dave CridlandYes, good point.
FlorianI was thinking, let's do the dinner still on Saturday after FOSDEM
FlorianI think people will still be there for the Saturday
stpeterI would think so, yes
Dave CridlandExcept people will be leaving Sunday, and it's a useful way to break the ice.
Florianthe alternative would be Thursday
bearanyone only going to the summit will not be present sat night
Dave CridlandI'd lean toward having it earlier (ie, Thursday).
bear(I know I won't be)
Florianok
FlorianI'll see if we can do Thursday evening then
Dave CridlandSame place, I assume?
FlorianI don't mind
Florianeasiest place to sort
Dave CridlandI think there'd be riots if you picked anywhere else.
bear:)
intosiIt's a tradition.
Florianhehe
Simonand very good.
intosiBreak one parameter a year, no more than that.
Florianalright ... then we just need to find some sponsors :)
Lancelet's not do everything differently now that bear gets to come :p
stpeterLance: :)
Florianso if anyone knows anyone willing to sponsor, tell them to give me a shout :)
Florian:D
Florianalright, I'll sort that tomorrow as well
stpeterFlorian: I have some ideas about people we can poke :)
Floriangreat :)
Dave CridlandAs do I.
bearwe should do a short blog post about the details once they are settled
Simonis willing to be poked a bit.
stpeterbear: yep
Florianwill do
FlorianI'll get those details confirmed tomorrow
bearflorian - poke &Yet about the dinner
Florian:)
Floriananything else on the dinner?
stpeternope
Dave CridlandDo they do delivery?
Florianhaha
stpeterDave Cridland: not to Wales, I'm afraid
Florianyou would need to sort a courier
FlorianDave Cridland: only to London :D
bearI'll drop a parcel from the plan as I fly over london
stpeteradds 4 more people to the participant list
bear+e
Dave Cridlandbear, You won't fly over Wales, though. :-(
Kevambles in.
bearI could try, but I think the airline would frown on the method
intosibear: toss it at an angle
SimonWhat's the plan for the realtime lounge?
Florianso, similar to next year
Florianwe still have the furniture at Cisco
FlorianI think we should check what's there
stpeteryes
SimonAeron chairs in the RT lounge?
Simonsounds more upmarket :)
Florian:)
intosiMore chairs would be nice.
stpeterFlorian: I can ping my contacts in Diegem
Florianwe can check what's there
Florianon Thursday / Friday
stpeterwe should have taken inventory last year :)
Florianand drop by Ikea again
stpeterFlorian: ah, true
stpetern/m
Dave CridlandAlso, there's t-shirt stock that's a sunk cost, so spending a bit at Ikea again isn't a problem.
Floriantrue
Floriananything else on RTL?
Dave CridlandI think there's even a hoodie or ten.
Lancehas joined
FlorianI guess that's a no :)
Florianso moving on to Speakers :)
FlorianI haven't had time to check the mails
Florianbut how are we looking on that front?
stpeterFlorian: I can make a rough agenda tonight
Kev[Going back to the hotel point - Aloft wasn't bad, breakfast was pretty poor but tolerable for a couple of days, getting to FOSDEM was convenient on public travel, and we went to Diegem en masse, so I'm not opposed to going back]
stpeterKev: agreed on breakfast
bearflorian - i was going to go thru the mail tonight and update the wiki
FlorianKev: alright :)
Florianbear: great
bearso we know for sure how many speakers we have
stpeterbear: ok great
Floriannext ... hoodies / t-shirts?
SimonI saw a rather lousy proposal about buddycloud but the rest of the speech proposals all looked great.
bearI don't think we have too many yet - my memory is telling me we have 6
stpeterbear: I also heard from Waqas that he would like to give a talk, but I told him to post to the list
SimonWaqas will make it?
Florianhe should, yes
bearyep, if it's not in the list then I won't count it
stpeterSimon: that's the hope
stpeterSimon: visas can be difficult to come by etc., but we're all pitching in on that front
bearif we know someone who could make it but can't swing the hotel - let me know - I was planning on going on my own dime but now work is paying for it, so I have that cost covered
Florian:)
Floriannext up ... T-Shirts / Hoodies?
Florianno discussions about those yet
Floriando we want them
Floriancan we still get them?
Dave CridlandThere is some stock. QUite a lot of t-shirts, a few hoodies.
stpeterhm
Florianthe design from last year was very popular
stpeterright
intosiHoodies were big last year, partly due to the low temperatures.
Florianindeed
KevFor talks, I'll give my standard offer - I have nothing interesting to say, but if someone has a topic they'd like me to talk about I'm happy to (assuming I know anything about it). Golly I'm lagging behind this meeting.
intosiThe only shirts left are the sick-coloured ones, if I recall correctly.
stpeterintosi: :)
fippokev: fmuc vs dmuc showdown? :-)
Dave Cridlandintosi, No, I'm pretty sure we had boxes of the block ones too. We started with 200, and they weren't selling *that* fast.
intosiDave: ah, okay.
Dave CridlandKev, fippo - standards development by mud wrestling.
Dave CridlandBlack ones.
Dave CridlandThat's what I meant.
Dave CridlandNot "block ones". No Minecraft styling here.
Florian:)
intosiDove Cridlond, we understood you the first time.
Kevstpeter: If you still hae it open, can you pop me on please?
stpeteryep
KevElse I'll try to find my wiki creds.
Florianand me :)
SimonFlorian: any chance of some more mobile viking sim cards?
Florianno free ones, but I can buy some
Dave CridlandKev, Are wiki creds like street creds, only less cool?
stpeterKev and Florian added
KevMore cool.
Florianstpeter: ta
Kevstpeter: Thanks.
SimonI'd happily sign-up for a SIM card for the four days.
stpeterfippo added too :)
Florianso yeah, coming back to the t-shirts / hoodies
intosiShirts seem to become less popular every year.
Florianshould we order some more ?
Florianor some other merch?
intosiMugs, polo shirts?
Dave CridlandYeah. The place I got the hoodies from now do a bunch of other clothing. However, I'd note that we barely scraped even last year.
intosiPens?
KevI'd be more inclined to get other stuff, if I'm honest, than t-shurts.
Dave CridlandPens might be cool.
stpetermugs are kind of heavy
Dave CridlandShould be able to get some cheap enough to give away.
Florianand break easily in transit
intosiStickers were popular some years ago.
stpeteryeah
Florianyeah, let's get stickers
stpeterintosi: true
KevMugs or Polo shirts or pens I might buy, but equally if we're making a loss on these things and it's a nuisance to arrange, what do they gain us?
Floriansome branding
intosiStickers should be cheap enough to give away.
FlorianI'd say, stickers and pens?
Simonstickers with a place to write in your XMPP address would be nice.
intosiSimon: good idea
arcrileygreat idea
FlorianI like that :)
Simonthen slap it onto your laptop and immediate friends.
stpeterand you can write the JID using the pen! brilliant! :)
Florian:)
Florianwho wants to take charge on that?
stpeterand if you write it really fast, it'll be an instant message ;-)
Florianand maybe come up with some designs?
intosiGlossy stickers are notable for their ability to withstand writing..
Florianstpeter: lol
stpeterno volunteers for designs, I see :)
Florian:)
KevDammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not an artist.
arcrileyim looking at sticker printers finding one suitable for that
intosiI only draw for medicinal purposes.
bearlet me ask if one of the creative types here can help - no promises but i'll ask
Florianawesome :)
SimonIMHO sticker printing has a longish lead time. Especially for cutouts.
arcrileystickermule stickers are great, but yes, glossy, you'd need fine tip sharpies
arcrileySimon, you can pay for expidite
FlorianI've got to run in a few mins ...
Florianis there anything else?
FlorianI'll take a look around for sticker places too
Floriansee how quickly they can print
Dave Cridland"Hello, my jid is" stickers sound awesome.
beardo we have artwork handy for the logo?
Dave CridlandYes
arcrileyyou mean the xmpp svg? yes.
bearI may order some "bear sized" tshirts for myself
Florian:)
Dave Cridlandbear, I can give you the EPS artwork.
bearcool
intosiI mis ye olde lightbulb of yore. Made a better logo for shirts and caps.
Dave Cridland(For the "Black", and the "Hoodie")
Kevintosi: It did, it did.
stpeterintosi: for sure
beareither the muc lag got really bad for everyone, or I sense an end to the meeting?
stpeter:)
KevSeems to have pretty much calmed down.
arcrileyseems like it
Dave CridlandThe lag has got so bad for everyone that Kev';s caught up.
bearshould we plan to meet again next board meeting (which would be at it's normal time)
arcrileyyes
beari.e. next week, just after the tech council
stpeterBTW, I have the Cisco rooms reserved, will work on catering plans next week
bearta
bearok, let's make that a plan then - adjourned till next board meeting
stpeterhttp://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/Summit_13#Participants just got a lot bigger, we'll see who else is interested
stpeterbear: WFM, let's chat later or tomorrow about the talks
KevThanks all.
stpeterI'll ping Waqas about posting to the summit@ list
arcrileyok back to julython
bearthanks Florian for doing all of this work to make the Summit awesome
arcrileythose pesky Django devs took our first place slot, we want it back :-)
arcrileyhttp://www.julython.org/teams/
beargood luck arc
beargoes back to writing chef scripts for redis and riak
arcrileyits a completely silly race, see who can make the most commits, but its a great motivator for the teams
arcrileybear, you doing julython?
stpeterarcriley: just make lots of smaller commits, one for each line of code even :)
bearI was
stpeterok, thanks all, and especially to Florian!
arcrileystpeter, you missed how we got the lead to begin with - Jan 1st, start of the program, I ran a sed script on every project i maintain updating the copyright years. 132 points right there (10 points per repo you contribute to, 1 per commit)
Dave Cridlandwhile true; do echo '.' >>julyathon; git add julyathon; git commit -m 'And another'; git push origin master; done
stpeterarcriley: heehee
arcrileyi do that every year tho, so its not defeating the spirit of the game :-)
arcrileysince their first commit to a repo is worth 11 points im using it to get the opengl kids to play with our xmpp library stuff :-)
Dave CridlandOh, you get more points if it's different users?
Simonhas left
arcrileyyea each user who makes a commit to each repo is 10 points
arcrileyif you do python stuff you should join, its a lot of fun. there may be swag in it.
Dave CridlandOK. My script needs some work, then.
Dave Cridlandarcriley, Ah, btu I currently don't do Python stuff.
arcrileygotcha
Dave Cridlandarcriley, And, recall, I am EVIL and do closed source things anyway. :-)
arcrileyah thats right. you're demon-tainted. :-)
Dave CridlandForked tail, horns. Yup.
fippobut aren't you subversive and there do closed source things generated by python code? I'd be somewhat disappointed otherwise
intosiNo Dave, that's BSD right there. See where the confusion comes from, though.
arcrileywell my secret weapon is all the concordance related repos, all waiting on nodetree and mod_xmpp. almost there. i havent updated the copyright years on those repos yet since im not actively working on them
arcrileythats another.... 99 points, at least
Dave Cridlandfippo, I'm officially subversive, actually. According to British Intelligence.
XSF Discussion - 2013-01-03