stpeterbear: I need to send invoices / receipts for dinner sponsors, will do that Friday afternoon
bearta
stpeteradds it to his calendar
bearok, next item - Office(r) assignments
bearI need to send an email from the board to the current Officers asking if they want to remain
bearif not, then we need to find new warm bodies
bearplus we need to find a Treasurer - right?
AlexI volunteer again for secretary
bearthat is very much appreciated Alex
stpeterbear: we've essentially not had a Treasurer since the old Jabber Inc. days, I've been serving pro-tem in that capacity but I think think it might be good to have someone else fill that role for the sake of transparency
bearagreed, the hard part is finding someone who 1) has the skills and 2) is close enough to you to review the books properly
bearI know I have no skills with non-profit accounting
Alexand 3) be familiar with US laws
bearis this something we open to the members list? my opinion is that it may be opening us up for some grief if we just send a blanket email
stpeterit doesn't need to be a member
stpeteranother option is to use a bookkeeping service of some kind, of course
stpeterbut our volume is quite low
bearmaybe I should ask Julie from &yet if she wouldn't mind
bearshe does our books and a number of other non-profits
stpeterah, that's not a bad idea
beark, lets table treasurer until the board members who are absent can bring up some possibilities - i'll send an email to them saying that I will be approaching julie and for them to bring up some solutions
stpeterJack Moffitt volunteered to do it a while back but we never got him set up properly at the bank
stpeterbear: sounds good
bearhe mentioned he might still be interested, i'll reach out
stpeterand Jack is really too busy anyway
stpeterok
stpeterhe always seems to be busy, anyway :-)
bearyea, serial entrepeneur and all that
bearok, moving on...
beargithub tos
bearI don't think it's an issue anymore
Ashleyso, as i read it, the github tos doesn't seem to make any claims about IP ownership
Ashleyah, well, in that case… :)
bearhaving read it, it no longer has some of the onerous issues that it used to years ago
bearwas agreeing with Ashley
KevThis is explicitly only for mirroring and not for accepting contributions, right?
bearcorrect
Ashleythat's our use case, right?
stpeterright, just mirroring
beareverything goes thru the mailing list for submissions, so we wouldn't use it for PullRequests or Issues
ZashBTW: http://tos-dr.info/#github
KevI'm still not clear what the great rush to mirror to github as well as gitorious that we've been using for years, but anyway. /me goes back to lurking.
AlexI think this discussion is some kind of conflict between open source developers and commercial developers. Because they have a different viewpoint when it comes to copyright and ownership
ZashFor short summary
stpeterKev: social coding :-)
stpeterKev: visibility etc.
bearkev - I think the issue just became visible and it shown bright enough to distract folks from their coding and stirred up the ant hill
bearonce we say "ok, it's mirrored" things will settle down
bearuntil someone asked for mercurial mirroring or some such
stpeteranyway I've set up https://github.com/organizations/xsf (Pedro Melo transferred the 'xsf' account to me and I changed it into an organization)
stpeterI see no problem with multiple mirrors
stpeteranyway, tempest in a teapot AFAICT
bearyep, i've added a logo and after I finish with the static site I will work on the git mirror commit hooks
bearok, lets settle this by being decisive and if someone really is bothered we can invite them to the infra team
stpeterbear: happy to work with you on the static site
stpeterbear: wfm
bearI'll be posting a not tonight or tomorrow about that - it's down to text clean up now
stpeterbear: super
bearanyone with any major grief/issues/questions about github mirroring?
KevNot me.
Ashleyno
beark, moving on
bearlast item - GSoC
bearfrom the wiki page, it appears that we have 4 other folk to help with the admin side
bear(other than me)
stpeter(oh, as with Alex, I am willing to continue serving as executive director, but of course the board is welcome to search for other candidates :-)
bearthe wiki page being http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2013
Alexthats not a lot
beardang - now I don't have anyone to send emails to asking for their continued support ! ;)
Kevbear: My view is that there hasn't been sufficient interest from mentors of projects that we'd be able to have under us, and we should skip a year.
Ashleybrb
stpeterI tend to concur with Kev
bearI agree, knowing from past how much attrition happens to even the most ardent of supporters, I don't think we have sufficient coverage
stpeterit's really about the projects, not the org admin type folks
bearsounds like we have consensus
stpeterbut there are plenty of worthy projects out there and there's no use taking up space in GSoC if we can't have an effective summer
bearnods
bearok, unless someone objects, I will summarize it to the members that we do not have the resources to give the students the proper mentorship they require and will be skipping this year
stpeterbear: well said
Ashleyok
KevThanks.
bearand if someone complains, I will invite them to be on the gsoc team next year
stpeter:-)
Alex+1
KevOh, quite the opposite.
KevIf someone complains but didn't offer to help in advance...
stpeterheh
beartrue, I would need to put on my "kev" hat when dealing with them (or my "cridland" hat)
beark, approaching 30(ish) minutes, any other issues to deal with?
stpeterI think we're done
bear... not hearing anything ...
bearbangs the gavel
KevThanks.
stpeterthanks, all
bearthanks everyone
bearwanders off to write some emails
Ashleycheers
ralphmbear: good plan!
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jabberjockeHi was thinking of having a workshop around xep for sensorsystem
jabberjockedo we have access to a webex account?
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jabberjockeand do any of you have any history around the issues with using xmpp for sensor data
bearjabberjocke - you should ask this in the jdev chat room - you will get more people listening
jabberjockeyes thanks will do that
jabberjockebut do xsf have any support for holding meetings such as webex
bearmost of the meetings we hold are chat only
bearbecause of how distributed our members are and how many OSs that are not covered by webex
bearnow that doesn't say we don't use webex like during the last Summit
jabberjockeThink it's good to have more direct discussion when having a workshop on the subject
jabberjockeWill go for the mailinglists to collect intrest first and se how many that wuld like to participate
ralphmWe've traditionally always used text, as bear said, as that is usually more productive for multi-party discussions. That said, if you really need audio/video, I'd suggest using Google Hangouts
ralphmmaybe the Live variant, so that you can also have it recorded and published at Youtube
jabberjockegood point thanks
jabberjockei've seen several different suggestions Sensor-Over-XMPP (aka SOX)
jabberjockewas there any discussion during the summit of "internet of things" and real distributed sensor and control
stpetergiven that I work on the WebEx team I might be able to set something up ;-) but we could also use something free like http://conversat.io/
ralphmn
jabberjockeIt's probably just me being unused to just text
ralphmjabberjocke: you are so missing out
jabberjockeyoure probably right about productivity
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jabberjockeralphm: you mean that there was a discussion during the summit?
ralphmI meant that you are missing out on productive text-based discussions
jabberjocketrue
jabberjocke:)
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bearmeeting minutes: (done)
bearofficer summary: (done)
beari'll report on the github and static site status later tonight - first I need to make my $dayjob bosses happy ;)
KevThanks. And thanks for looking after the migration.
XSF Discussion - 2013-02-27