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bear
most of the really broken style stuff has been fixed; sidebar with sponsors is fixed; nav bar with dropdown is fixed;
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bear
still need to fix some metadata in secondary pages and clean up things like sidebar, feed and some centering issues
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bear
k, cleaned up the dup title glitch (articles that had both a Title: metadata item and also a # Title line in the body)
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ralphm
bear: keep up the good work
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jabberjocke
bear: just say if you need any testing help
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Ashley
i'm so here and ready to collaborate!
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
let's see if bear is around
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stpeter
I did update the calendar, but it was last night
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stpeter
poked him via IM
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stpeter
brb
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stpeter
back
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Ashley
so….
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stpeter
well
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Ashley
i was so happy i actually made it :)
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bear
i'm here
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Alex
so am I ;-)
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bear
am I late?
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stpeter
happy to see that http://www.coversant.com/ is back online, although I think we've not seen Jason in a while
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Kev
Coversant have been back for a while.
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stpeter
Kev: the site had some wonky unavailable message a few days ago
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Kev
Ah, OK.
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Kev
I thought you meant Coversant in general :)
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stpeter
"account suspended" or somesuch
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stpeter
not sure I have Arc in my buddy list
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bear
arc may not be able to make it - he also had a conflict with schedules
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stpeter
ah ok
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stpeter
I just invited Florian
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Florian
hi all
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bear
we traded emails, I told him about the agenda and invited him to send email if he had an special requests
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stpeter
hey :-)
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stpeter
so it seems that the Board has a quorum
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bear
\o/
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bear
should be a fast meeting - shall we start?
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stpeter
fire away, boss!
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Ashley
sure!
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bear
I had only two items to talk about, does anyone have anything to add to the agenda?
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bear
first item is post FOSDEM - as peter pointed out, we should make sure the checklist is updated
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Ashley
do we need to talk about the github TOS?
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Kev
(GSoC)
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bear
I'll send an email to the members list asking everyone to update that wiki page with anything they fell is needed for next year
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bear
do we have any financial obligations (billing sponsors, paying someone from receipts)?
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bear
no? ok
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bear
if anyone has anything to add to the followup, please do pile onto the email I'll send in a bit
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stpeter
I've updated http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/FOSDEM_Checklist
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bear
cool
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stpeter
bear: I need to send invoices / receipts for dinner sponsors, will do that Friday afternoon
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bear
ta
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bear
ok, next item - Office(r) assignments
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bear
I need to send an email from the board to the current Officers asking if they want to remain
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bear
if not, then we need to find new warm bodies
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bear
plus we need to find a Treasurer - right?
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Alex
I volunteer again for secretary
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bear
that is very much appreciated Alex
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stpeter
bear: we've essentially not had a Treasurer since the old Jabber Inc. days, I've been serving pro-tem in that capacity but I think think it might be good to have someone else fill that role for the sake of transparency
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bear
agreed, the hard part is finding someone who 1) has the skills and 2) is close enough to you to review the books properly
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bear
I know I have no skills with non-profit accounting
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Alex
and 3) be familiar with US laws
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bear
is this something we open to the members list? my opinion is that it may be opening us up for some grief if we just send a blanket email
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stpeter
it doesn't need to be a member
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stpeter
another option is to use a bookkeeping service of some kind, of course
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stpeter
but our volume is quite low
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bear
maybe I should ask Julie from &yet if she wouldn't mind
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bear
she does our books and a number of other non-profits
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stpeter
ah, that's not a bad idea
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bear
k, lets table treasurer until the board members who are absent can bring up some possibilities - i'll send an email to them saying that I will be approaching julie and for them to bring up some solutions
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stpeter
Jack Moffitt volunteered to do it a while back but we never got him set up properly at the bank
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stpeter
bear: sounds good
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bear
he mentioned he might still be interested, i'll reach out
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stpeter
and Jack is really too busy anyway
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
he always seems to be busy, anyway :-)
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bear
yea, serial entrepeneur and all that
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bear
ok, moving on...
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bear
github tos
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bear
I don't think it's an issue anymore
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Ashley
so, as i read it, the github tos doesn't seem to make any claims about IP ownership
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Ashley
ah, well, in that case… :)
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bear
having read it, it no longer has some of the onerous issues that it used to years ago
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Kev
This is explicitly only for mirroring and not for accepting contributions, right?
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bear
correct
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Ashley
that's our use case, right?
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stpeter
right, just mirroring
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bear
everything goes thru the mailing list for submissions, so we wouldn't use it for PullRequests or Issues
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Zash
BTW: http://tos-dr.info/#github
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Kev
I'm still not clear what the great rush to mirror to github as well as gitorious that we've been using for years, but anyway. /me goes back to lurking.
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Alex
I think this discussion is some kind of conflict between open source developers and commercial developers. Because they have a different viewpoint when it comes to copyright and ownership
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Zash
For short summary
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stpeter
Kev: social coding :-)
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stpeter
Kev: visibility etc.
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bear
kev - I think the issue just became visible and it shown bright enough to distract folks from their coding and stirred up the ant hill
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bear
once we say "ok, it's mirrored" things will settle down
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bear
until someone asked for mercurial mirroring or some such
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stpeter
anyway I've set up https://github.com/organizations/xsf (Pedro Melo transferred the 'xsf' account to me and I changed it into an organization)
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stpeter
I see no problem with multiple mirrors
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stpeter
anyway, tempest in a teapot AFAICT
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bear
yep, i've added a logo and after I finish with the static site I will work on the git mirror commit hooks
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bear
ok, lets settle this by being decisive and if someone really is bothered we can invite them to the infra team
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stpeter
bear: happy to work with you on the static site
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stpeter
bear: wfm
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bear
I'll be posting a not tonight or tomorrow about that - it's down to text clean up now
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stpeter
bear: super
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bear
anyone with any major grief/issues/questions about github mirroring?
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Kev
Not me.
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Ashley
no
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bear
k, moving on
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bear
last item - GSoC
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bear
from the wiki page, it appears that we have 4 other folk to help with the admin side
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bear
(other than me)
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stpeter
(oh, as with Alex, I am willing to continue serving as executive director, but of course the board is welcome to search for other candidates :-)
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bear
the wiki page being http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2013
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Alex
thats not a lot
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bear
dang - now I don't have anyone to send emails to asking for their continued support ! ;)
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Kev
bear: My view is that there hasn't been sufficient interest from mentors of projects that we'd be able to have under us, and we should skip a year.
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Ashley
brb
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stpeter
I tend to concur with Kev
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bear
I agree, knowing from past how much attrition happens to even the most ardent of supporters, I don't think we have sufficient coverage
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stpeter
it's really about the projects, not the org admin type folks
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bear
sounds like we have consensus
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stpeter
but there are plenty of worthy projects out there and there's no use taking up space in GSoC if we can't have an effective summer
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bear
ok, unless someone objects, I will summarize it to the members that we do not have the resources to give the students the proper mentorship they require and will be skipping this year
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stpeter
bear: well said
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Ashley
ok
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Kev
Thanks.
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bear
and if someone complains, I will invite them to be on the gsoc team next year
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stpeter
:-)
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Alex
+1
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Kev
Oh, quite the opposite.
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Kev
If someone complains but didn't offer to help in advance...
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stpeter
heh
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bear
true, I would need to put on my "kev" hat when dealing with them (or my "cridland" hat)
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bear
k, approaching 30(ish) minutes, any other issues to deal with?
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stpeter
I think we're done
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bear
... not hearing anything ...
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Kev
Thanks.
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stpeter
thanks, all
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bear
thanks everyone
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Ashley
cheers
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ralphm
bear: good plan!
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jabberjocke
Hi was thinking of having a workshop around xep for sensorsystem
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jabberjocke
do we have access to a webex account?
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jabberjocke
and do any of you have any history around the issues with using xmpp for sensor data
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bear
jabberjocke - you should ask this in the jdev chat room - you will get more people listening
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jabberjocke
yes thanks will do that
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jabberjocke
but do xsf have any support for holding meetings such as webex
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bear
most of the meetings we hold are chat only
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bear
because of how distributed our members are and how many OSs that are not covered by webex
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bear
now that doesn't say we don't use webex like during the last Summit
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jabberjocke
Think it's good to have more direct discussion when having a workshop on the subject
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jabberjocke
Will go for the mailinglists to collect intrest first and se how many that wuld like to participate
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ralphm
We've traditionally always used text, as bear said, as that is usually more productive for multi-party discussions. That said, if you really need audio/video, I'd suggest using Google Hangouts
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ralphm
maybe the Live variant, so that you can also have it recorded and published at Youtube
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jabberjocke
good point thanks
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jabberjocke
i've seen several different suggestions Sensor-Over-XMPP (aka SOX)
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jabberjocke
was there any discussion during the summit of "internet of things" and real distributed sensor and control
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stpeter
given that I work on the WebEx team I might be able to set something up ;-) but we could also use something free like http://conversat.io/
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ralphm
n
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jabberjocke
It's probably just me being unused to just text
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ralphm
jabberjocke: you are so missing out
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jabberjocke
youre probably right about productivity
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jabberjocke
ralphm: you mean that there was a discussion during the summit?
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ralphm
I meant that you are missing out on productive text-based discussions
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jabberjocke
true
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jabberjocke
:)
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bear
meeting minutes: (done)
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bear
officer summary: (done)
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bear
i'll report on the github and static site status later tonight - first I need to make my $dayjob bosses happy ;)
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Kev
Thanks. And thanks for looking after the migration.
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bear
glad I can help
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