ugh, I so want to make a note/comment about folks needing to remember to be polite in responding to others... but i can't find the words to say it without sounding like someone's mother wagging her finger
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bear: what's the context? one of the XSF lists?
bear
yes, the operators - I just got a bit twitchy reading some of the responses to the gtalk posting
bear
my thought when reading was "hey now, at least they are talking to us and responding, we should be civil in response" but that sounded preachy
Kev
I read it, I decided you can't moderate The Internet, and moved on.
bear
ha - yea, well, I haven't reached that level of zen yet
Kev
But it /is/ our list, so maybe I should have cared.
bear
the only reason it raised a concern for me was that it's the operators list and I feel that is like our customer support forum
Kev
But, you know, the other side to this is that if Google have suddenly started blocking federation...that's not good and trying to prevent people being irritated by it is going to be hard work.
bear
I do agree with the message being given by them, just would have liked it to be less contentiously delivered
bear
hell, maybe I am becoming all wishy-washy
stpeter
bear: :)
ralphm
maybe people are fed up with xmpp googlisms, but yeah, politeness goes a long way
ralphm
Per seems to handle it quite nicely so far
bear
part of why I said something first here :)
ralphm
what you /can/, though, is send him a personal message. Not to appologise, but to thank him for participating. We'd love more of that.
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Kev
Yes, that seems smart Ralph.
bear
send Per a message?
Kev
Yeah.
bear
k
Kev
You could also offer to help if they can better describe the issues they're facing.
bear
yep
Kev
That someone might have a preferable solution to blanket bombing S2S.
Kev
Hoorah for mixed metaphors :D
bearlaughs
Kev
I don't know why, I take some perverse pleasure in doing that.
bear
k, email sent direct to Per thanking him for posting and offering to help coordinate any resource wrangling that may be needed for any federation issue/problem/work
Kev
Thanks.
Kev
"Bear, the gentler side of the XSF"
bear
if it helps, I will be the public facing teddy bear
ralphm
awesome
Kev
No, not awesome. I do not want to see Bear in a teddy.
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Kev
To add the mind bleach?
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bear
that and an extra large towel to mop up the mess
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bear
peter - FYI and all that - i'm also class 2 certified at StartSSL if that helps in any way
stpeter
bear: cool, we can start a WoT for jabberites :-)
stpeter
I used to be Class 3 verified
bear
I went and did the class 2 so I could get a "proper" wildcard cert
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stpeter
maybe I'll send such messages to members@ in the future :-)
bear
talked to a nice israeli lady during the confirmation :)
stpeter
heh
Lance
I'm going to upgrade to class 2 soon as well. My existing certs are about to expire
bear
hmm, bring up the conversation levels on members@ with more techy talk?
stpeter
bear: sure :-)
bear
tomorrow I need to figure out where the git repo lives on the server and see if I can get access to it
bear
I want to start storing the articles in it so others can help clean them up