bearugh, I so want to make a note/comment about folks needing to remember to be polite in responding to others... but i can't find the words to say it without sounding like someone's mother wagging her finger
stpeterbear: what's the context? one of the XSF lists?
bearyes, the operators - I just got a bit twitchy reading some of the responses to the gtalk posting
bearmy thought when reading was "hey now, at least they are talking to us and responding, we should be civil in response" but that sounded preachy
KevI read it, I decided you can't moderate The Internet, and moved on.
bearha - yea, well, I haven't reached that level of zen yet
KevBut it /is/ our list, so maybe I should have cared.
bearthe only reason it raised a concern for me was that it's the operators list and I feel that is like our customer support forum
KevBut, you know, the other side to this is that if Google have suddenly started blocking federation...that's not good and trying to prevent people being irritated by it is going to be hard work.
bearI do agree with the message being given by them, just would have liked it to be less contentiously delivered
bearhell, maybe I am becoming all wishy-washy
ralphmmaybe people are fed up with xmpp googlisms, but yeah, politeness goes a long way
ralphmPer seems to handle it quite nicely so far
bearpart of why I said something first here :)
ralphmwhat you /can/, though, is send him a personal message. Not to appologise, but to thank him for participating. We'd love more of that.
KevYes, that seems smart Ralph.
bearsend Per a message?
KevYou could also offer to help if they can better describe the issues they're facing.
KevThat someone might have a preferable solution to blanket bombing S2S.
KevHoorah for mixed metaphors :D
KevI don't know why, I take some perverse pleasure in doing that.
beark, email sent direct to Per thanking him for posting and offering to help coordinate any resource wrangling that may be needed for any federation issue/problem/work
Kev"Bear, the gentler side of the XSF"
bearif it helps, I will be the public facing teddy bear
KevNo, not awesome. I do not want to see Bear in a teddy.
bearadjusts his packing list for the next summit
KevTo add the mind bleach?
bearthat and an extra large towel to mop up the mess
bearpeter - FYI and all that - i'm also class 2 certified at StartSSL if that helps in any way
stpeterbear: cool, we can start a WoT for jabberites :-)
stpeterI used to be Class 3 verified
bearI went and did the class 2 so I could get a "proper" wildcard cert
stpetermaybe I'll send such messages to members@ in the future :-)
beartalked to a nice israeli lady during the confirmation :)
LanceI'm going to upgrade to class 2 soon as well. My existing certs are about to expire
bearhmm, bring up the conversation levels on members@ with more techy talk?
stpeterbear: sure :-)
beartomorrow I need to figure out where the git repo lives on the server and see if I can get access to it
bearI want to start storing the articles in it so others can help clean them up