also, by the way, an awesome logo, if I may say so
MattJ
Heh, true :)
MattJ
Anything new in the article though?
ralphm
(I made that particular picture with .org in it)
MattJ
I don't fancy reading another article based on facts I know filled in with suspicions the author derives from them
ralphm
MattJ: I guess you will be disappointed by eh, basically all reporting
MattJ
Right :)
ralphm
however, apparently the press can interact with Google, unlike us
stpeter
ralphm: actually, a journalist did send me an email message at 3:30 on the Friday of a holiday weekend when I happened to be on PTO for the long weekend, if you call that interaction
ralphm
stpeter: I know I know
stpeter
:P
ralphm
stpeter: we should have such mail go to multiple people
stpeter
ralphm: let me check what address they used
stpeter
actually it was info@xmpp.org
ralphm
right
ralphm
and that only ends up with you, I suppose?
stpeter
currently, yes
stpeter
I've never seen anyone use that before :-)
ralphm
well, it is on the contact page of the xmpp.org site
ralphm
hard to find, too
ralphm
I never considered clicking on 'participate' to find the contact information
ralphm
I'd expect that page in the 'About' menu
MattJ
I went About->XMPP Standards Foundation->Contact
ralphm
MattJ: yeah, that works, too
MattJ
We should definitely make it easier
ralphm
most orgs have a footer with such details
ralphm
(for example)
MattJ
Is the website still changing? I've been trying to keep out of that affair this time round...
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stpeter
MattJ: good idea
stpeter
Simon offered to help with website, but I seem to have missed the email message in which he made that offer
ralphm
regarding that article I just linked, no joy. Definitely no s2s.
stpeter
ralphm: I didn't think so
ralphm
stpeter: me neither
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ralphm
Man, it is hard to keep up with conversions on Google Plus
Also, here with Evan Prodromou and Joseph Smarr:
https://plus.google.com/104323674441008487802/posts/Bn4yH1WYvRs
MattJ
and the problem with getting too concerned about what people think about you, or the stuff you create, is that you end up finding wisdom like:
MattJ
"The problem with XMPP is that it requires several open ports (5222, 5223, 5269, 5298, 8010) on the client, on the technical and practical standpoint the reason why XMPP is unpopular to big players because many businesses won't be bothered to open their ports"
stpeter
MattJ: I prefer to do some work, rather than talk about it -- I guess that's why I'm not a PR person
MattJ
:)
stpeter
so if there are problems, let's fix them
MattJ
I laughed when I read your quote in the article
stpeter
oh I haven't read the article
MattJ
It was just your tweet about moving forward
stpeter
ah
stpeter
time for another conference call here... :-)
MattJ
Enjoy, mine was cancelled :)
stpeter
hmm, this one is 90 minutes...
stpeter
yay
stpeter
these people who pay me have discovered that I can be useful inside the company instead of just doing all that external standards stuff :P
MattJ
Wow
MattJ
You should have been more careful :)
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Lloyd
Hi guys, going to try broadcasting from this URL, not starting for 30 or so minutes yet though - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/543846eb1d85513f7fc3390e388c0f177b33ac63?authuser=1&hl=en-GB
MattJ
The irony ;)
MattJ
But thanks :)
ralphm
Oh come on, the joke is old now
Lloyd
indeed )
Lloyd
This is probably a better URL will attempt to find a better microphone
Lloyd
http://bit.ly/175jVmw
Lance
thanks for the feed Lloyd!
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Lloyd
No better microphone I'm afraid. Hopefully laptop will be clever enough to pick up and cancel out background noise. Making notes for next time!
Lloyd
Any feedback on camera angle/etc appreciated.
Lloyd
Going to raid mozilla beer fridge first :)
Lloyd
about to get started but there's a good delay on the youtube broadcast. Hope microphone is ok!
ralphm
Lloyd: the screen is unreadable
ralphm
Lloyd or whoever is typing. We can hear you!
stpeter
I'm at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RroA2NzzX64&feature=youtu.be -- is that semi-correct?
Lloyd
Looks right
stpeter
OK :)
Lloyd
Sorry guys mic not great, and camera neither. I need to buy a better webcam!
Lloyd
Next talk is about go, but live over hangouts from Buffalo, NY so should be very clear
stpeter
I think I have no audio, but perhaps that's because the sound is emanating far from the mic
Lloyd
After that its Ash Ward on WebRTC, then Florian on scaling in realtime using xmpp
Lloyd
Audio is off at present
Lloyd
We're eating pizza, but its not great any way I'm afraid
stpeter
heh ok
stpeter
sorry to hear it!
stpeteris eating lunch while you're eating dinner :P
MattJis in-between
stpeter
MattJ: what time zone do you really live in? ;-)
MattJ
That varies from week to week :)
stpeter
heh
stpeter
we used to joke that Jer lived on Hawaii time
MattJ
I woke at 5am UTC yesterday, and 11am UTC today
Lance
I'm on whatever time lets me get a bit more sleep
MattJ
I should try making graphs
ralphm
graphs. I love graphs
MattJ
I've been recording the <show> of all participants in the Prosody MUC at 5 minute intervals for over a year
MattJ
Tobias made an initial graph of it, but it wasn't too interesting