ralphmalso, by the way, an awesome logo, if I may say so
MattJHeh, true :)
MattJAnything new in the article though?
ralphm(I made that particular picture with .org in it)
MattJI don't fancy reading another article based on facts I know filled in with suspicions the author derives from them
ralphmMattJ: I guess you will be disappointed by eh, basically all reporting
MattJRight :)
ralphmhowever, apparently the press can interact with Google, unlike us
stpeterralphm: actually, a journalist did send me an email message at 3:30 on the Friday of a holiday weekend when I happened to be on PTO for the long weekend, if you call that interaction
ralphmstpeter: I know I know
stpeter:P
ralphmstpeter: we should have such mail go to multiple people
stpeterralphm: let me check what address they used
stpeteractually it was info@xmpp.org
ralphmright
ralphmand that only ends up with you, I suppose?
stpetercurrently, yes
stpeterI've never seen anyone use that before :-)
ralphmwell, it is on the contact page of the xmpp.org site
ralphmhard to find, too
ralphmI never considered clicking on 'participate' to find the contact information
ralphmI'd expect that page in the 'About' menu
MattJI went About->XMPP Standards Foundation->Contact
ralphmMattJ: yeah, that works, too
MattJWe should definitely make it easier
ralphmmost orgs have a footer with such details
ralphm(for example)
MattJIs the website still changing? I've been trying to keep out of that affair this time round...
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stpeterMattJ: good idea
stpeterSimon offered to help with website, but I seem to have missed the email message in which he made that offer
ralphmregarding that article I just linked, no joy. Definitely no s2s.
stpeterralphm: I didn't think so
ralphmstpeter: me neither
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ralphmMan, it is hard to keep up with conversions on Google Plus
ralphmAlso, here with Evan Prodromou and Joseph Smarr:
https://plus.google.com/104323674441008487802/posts/Bn4yH1WYvRs
MattJand the problem with getting too concerned about what people think about you, or the stuff you create, is that you end up finding wisdom like:
MattJ"The problem with XMPP is that it requires several open ports (5222, 5223, 5269, 5298, 8010) on the client, on the technical and practical standpoint the reason why XMPP is unpopular to big players because many businesses won't be bothered to open their ports"
stpeterMattJ: I prefer to do some work, rather than talk about it -- I guess that's why I'm not a PR person
MattJ:)
stpeterso if there are problems, let's fix them
MattJI laughed when I read your quote in the article
stpeteroh I haven't read the article
MattJIt was just your tweet about moving forward
stpeterah
stpetertime for another conference call here... :-)
MattJEnjoy, mine was cancelled :)
stpeterhmm, this one is 90 minutes...
stpeteryay
stpeterthese people who pay me have discovered that I can be useful inside the company instead of just doing all that external standards stuff :P
MattJWow
MattJYou should have been more careful :)
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LloydHi guys, going to try broadcasting from this URL, not starting for 30 or so minutes yet though - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/543846eb1d85513f7fc3390e388c0f177b33ac63?authuser=1&hl=en-GB
MattJThe irony ;)
MattJBut thanks :)
ralphmOh come on, the joke is old now
Lloydindeed )
LloydThis is probably a better URL will attempt to find a better microphone
Lloydhttp://bit.ly/175jVmw
Lancethanks for the feed Lloyd!
Lancewatches
LloydNo better microphone I'm afraid. Hopefully laptop will be clever enough to pick up and cancel out background noise. Making notes for next time!
LloydAny feedback on camera angle/etc appreciated.
LloydGoing to raid mozilla beer fridge first :)
Lloydabout to get started but there's a good delay on the youtube broadcast. Hope microphone is ok!
ralphmLloyd: the screen is unreadable
ralphmLloyd or whoever is typing. We can hear you!
stpeterI'm at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RroA2NzzX64&feature=youtu.be -- is that semi-correct?
LloydLooks right
stpeterOK :)
LloydSorry guys mic not great, and camera neither. I need to buy a better webcam!
LloydNext talk is about go, but live over hangouts from Buffalo, NY so should be very clear
stpeterI think I have no audio, but perhaps that's because the sound is emanating far from the mic
LloydAfter that its Ash Ward on WebRTC, then Florian on scaling in realtime using xmpp
LloydAudio is off at present
LloydWe're eating pizza, but its not great any way I'm afraid
stpeterheh ok
stpetersorry to hear it!
stpeteris eating lunch while you're eating dinner :P
MattJis in-between
stpeterMattJ: what time zone do you really live in? ;-)
MattJThat varies from week to week :)
stpeterheh
stpeterwe used to joke that Jer lived on Hawaii time
MattJI woke at 5am UTC yesterday, and 11am UTC today
LanceI'm on whatever time lets me get a bit more sleep
MattJI should try making graphs
ralphmgraphs. I love graphs
MattJI've been recording the <show> of all participants in the Prosody MUC at 5 minute intervals for over a year
MattJTobias made an initial graph of it, but it wasn't too interesting