XSF Discussion - 2013-05-29

  1. ralphm


  2. MattJ

    Wrooong logo

  3. ralphm

    yeah whatever

  4. MattJ


  5. ralphm

    also, by the way, an awesome logo, if I may say so

  6. MattJ

    Heh, true :)

  7. MattJ

    Anything new in the article though?

  8. ralphm

    (I made that particular picture with .org in it)

  9. MattJ

    I don't fancy reading another article based on facts I know filled in with suspicions the author derives from them

  10. ralphm

    MattJ: I guess you will be disappointed by eh, basically all reporting

  11. MattJ

    Right :)

  12. ralphm

    however, apparently the press can interact with Google, unlike us

  13. stpeter

    ralphm: actually, a journalist did send me an email message at 3:30 on the Friday of a holiday weekend when I happened to be on PTO for the long weekend, if you call that interaction

  14. ralphm

    stpeter: I know I know

  15. stpeter


  16. ralphm

    stpeter: we should have such mail go to multiple people

  17. stpeter

    ralphm: let me check what address they used

  18. stpeter

    actually it was info@xmpp.org

  19. ralphm


  20. ralphm

    and that only ends up with you, I suppose?

  21. stpeter

    currently, yes

  22. stpeter

    I've never seen anyone use that before :-)

  23. ralphm

    well, it is on the contact page of the xmpp.org site

  24. ralphm

    hard to find, too

  25. ralphm

    I never considered clicking on 'participate' to find the contact information

  26. ralphm

    I'd expect that page in the 'About' menu

  27. MattJ

    I went About->XMPP Standards Foundation->Contact

  28. ralphm

    MattJ: yeah, that works, too

  29. MattJ

    We should definitely make it easier

  30. ralphm

    most orgs have a footer with such details

  31. ralphm

    (for example)

  32. MattJ

    Is the website still changing? I've been trying to keep out of that affair this time round...

  33. stpeter

    MattJ: good idea

  34. stpeter

    Simon offered to help with website, but I seem to have missed the email message in which he made that offer

  35. ralphm

    regarding that article I just linked, no joy. Definitely no s2s.

  36. stpeter

    ralphm: I didn't think so

  37. ralphm

    stpeter: me neither

  38. ralphm

    Man, it is hard to keep up with conversions on Google Plus

  39. ralphm


  40. ralphm

    some interesting comments by Jan Wildeboer

  41. ralphm

    apparently I am a head honcho

  42. ralphm

    Also, here with Evan Prodromou and Joseph Smarr: https://plus.google.com/104323674441008487802/posts/Bn4yH1WYvRs

  43. MattJ

    and the problem with getting too concerned about what people think about you, or the stuff you create, is that you end up finding wisdom like:

  44. MattJ

    "The problem with XMPP is that it requires several open ports (5222, 5223, 5269, 5298, 8010) on the client, on the technical and practical standpoint the reason why XMPP is unpopular to big players because many businesses won't be bothered to open their ports"

  45. stpeter

    MattJ: I prefer to do some work, rather than talk about it -- I guess that's why I'm not a PR person

  46. MattJ


  47. stpeter

    so if there are problems, let's fix them

  48. MattJ

    I laughed when I read your quote in the article

  49. stpeter

    oh I haven't read the article

  50. MattJ

    It was just your tweet about moving forward

  51. stpeter


  52. stpeter

    time for another conference call here... :-)

  53. MattJ

    Enjoy, mine was cancelled :)

  54. stpeter

    hmm, this one is 90 minutes...

  55. stpeter


  56. stpeter

    these people who pay me have discovered that I can be useful inside the company instead of just doing all that external standards stuff :P

  57. MattJ


  58. MattJ

    You should have been more careful :)

  59. Lloyd

    Hi guys, going to try broadcasting from this URL, not starting for 30 or so minutes yet though - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/543846eb1d85513f7fc3390e388c0f177b33ac63?authuser=1&hl=en-GB

  60. MattJ

    The irony ;)

  61. MattJ

    But thanks :)

  62. ralphm

    Oh come on, the joke is old now

  63. Lloyd

    indeed )

  64. Lloyd

    This is probably a better URL will attempt to find a better microphone

  65. Lloyd


  66. Lance

    thanks for the feed Lloyd!

  67. Lance watches

  68. Lloyd

    No better microphone I'm afraid. Hopefully laptop will be clever enough to pick up and cancel out background noise. Making notes for next time!

  69. Lloyd

    Any feedback on camera angle/etc appreciated.

  70. Lloyd

    Going to raid mozilla beer fridge first :)

  71. Lloyd

    about to get started but there's a good delay on the youtube broadcast. Hope microphone is ok!

  72. ralphm

    Lloyd: the screen is unreadable

  73. ralphm

    Lloyd or whoever is typing. We can hear you!

  74. stpeter

    I'm at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RroA2NzzX64&feature=youtu.be -- is that semi-correct?

  75. Lloyd

    Looks right

  76. stpeter

    OK :)

  77. Lloyd

    Sorry guys mic not great, and camera neither. I need to buy a better webcam!

  78. Lloyd

    Next talk is about go, but live over hangouts from Buffalo, NY so should be very clear

  79. stpeter

    I think I have no audio, but perhaps that's because the sound is emanating far from the mic

  80. Lloyd

    After that its Ash Ward on WebRTC, then Florian on scaling in realtime using xmpp

  81. Lloyd

    Audio is off at present

  82. Lloyd

    We're eating pizza, but its not great any way I'm afraid

  83. stpeter

    heh ok

  84. stpeter

    sorry to hear it!

  85. stpeter is eating lunch while you're eating dinner :P

  86. MattJ is in-between

  87. stpeter

    MattJ: what time zone do you really live in? ;-)

  88. MattJ

    That varies from week to week :)

  89. stpeter


  90. stpeter

    we used to joke that Jer lived on Hawaii time

  91. MattJ

    I woke at 5am UTC yesterday, and 11am UTC today

  92. Lance

    I'm on whatever time lets me get a bit more sleep

  93. MattJ

    I should try making graphs

  94. ralphm

    graphs. I love graphs

  95. MattJ

    I've been recording the <show> of all participants in the Prosody MUC at 5 minute intervals for over a year

  96. MattJ

    Tobias made an initial graph of it, but it wasn't too interesting

  97. MattJ


  98. MattJ

    Time to bump jabber.org again I guess

  99. MattJ


  100. MattJ spies stpeter