XSF Discussion - 2013-10-15

  1. bear

    I posted a note to the blog about the elections and meeting details

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  11. stpeter

    bear: thanks for the blog post!

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  85. SM

    Hi Dave

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  88. stpeter

    SM: send me a message (my IM client crashed)

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  96. SM

    Dave, what's your opinion about http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2013-October/007268.html ?

  97. Dave Cridland

    There's a lot there. My take-home from that is Peter Waher sees marketing, and motivating the membership to take on more of the grunt work.

  98. SM

    Well, it is a good way to get a community

  99. Dave Cridland

    I'm aware that stpeter has expressed an interest in delegating some of the work he currently takes on himself.

  100. SM

    Seriously, it would be good for the long term

  101. SM

    The membership seems rather quiet

  102. fippo

    mh... i wonder which of the two parts will be harder.

  103. fippo

    SM: exactly :-/

  104. SM

    fippo, you mean getting rid of the members or of Peter?

  105. fippo

    stpeter is sacrosanct so that's not a question ;-)

  106. Dave Cridland

    fippo, Marketing or motivation, I assumed you meant.

  107. SM

    Wait, we agreed on veggie pizzas

  108. SM

    so nothing is sacrosaint

  109. fippo

    dave: right. sm: hm... point!

  110. SM

    Ok, let's be serious. As I mentioned, there are good people

  111. SM

    It is a matter of using their talents

  112. SM

    And now having one person doing all the work

  113. Dave Cridland

    fippo, I think both are very hard, but people at least joined the XSF with some expectation of helping out.

  114. SM

    Dave, it seems to me taht peopel actually want to help out

  115. SM

    It takes some talk and organization on how to make that expectation work out

  116. Dave Cridland

    fippo, Plus I think there's a considerable kudos involved with being an "Assistant XEP Editor" or some such, so overall, I suspect getting our membership being more involved and active would be easier.

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  118. Dave Cridland

    However, it would involve stopping a certain nameless person from being such a total workaholic, too.

  119. SM

    Dave, I think the certain person can be encouraged:)

  120. fippo

    that persons gets cridlands bacon?

  121. SM

    No, his significant half would be overjoyed

  122. SM

    Cridland could be moved into marketing:)

  123. Dave Cridland

    I think there are candidates better suited to that than me.

  124. SM

    Dave, it is not about better suited

  125. SM

    It helps to spread the workload and someone must do it

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  127. Dave Cridland

    No, I mean, the marketing. I can follow orders on that, but I can't properly structure a campaign.

  128. SM

    Dave, it takes team work. It is not like a person can think about everything

  129. Dave Cridland

    Sure, but one person needs to have the skill to pick the overall strategy for a particular area.

  130. SM

    Dave, I would disagree about that

  131. SM

    It is for a group to come up with a strategy

  132. SM

    It is easier when everyone things about a part

  133. SM

    Else mistakes happen

  134. Kev

    There's a difference between "It makes sense to have someone with experience lead something" and "one person must do everything alone".

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  136. SM

    Yes, Kev

  137. fippo

    it's all about feedback in the end

  138. SM

    Speaking of feedback, fippo, waiting for you to post to members@:)

  139. Dave Cridland

    Right. I'm not suggesting one person should operate in a vacuum and decide everything without reference, but while I may be able to make comments about marketing, I'm not qualified to structure a marketing strategy from scratch.

  140. SM

    Dave, do you know XSF?

  141. fippo

    arr... i'll compose something on the flight to portland. but then, I have stickers, so do I really need to post? :-)

  142. Dave Cridland

    I'd not get many votes if I said "No", would I?

  143. SM

    fippo, seriously, it would help

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  145. SM

    Dave, you know the community

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    You know what would be bad

  147. SM

    That's a start

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  149. fippo

    dave: if a marketing person explains a plan to you and you don't understand it, you would ask, right?

  150. Dave Cridland

    Right, I can run oversight. But I'm not foolish enough to think I can write the plan in the first place.

  151. SM

    Dave, can you spot a person who can write one?

  152. Dave Cridland

    I can make reasonable guesses.

  153. SM

    It's good enough

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