I posted a note to the blog about the elections and meeting details
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stpeter
bear: thanks for the blog post!
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SM
Hi Dave
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SM: send me a message (my IM client crashed)
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Done
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Dave, what's your opinion about http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2013-October/007268.html ?
Dave Cridland
There's a lot there. My take-home from that is Peter Waher sees marketing, and motivating the membership to take on more of the grunt work.
SM
Well, it is a good way to get a community
Dave Cridland
I'm aware that stpeter has expressed an interest in delegating some of the work he currently takes on himself.
SM
Seriously, it would be good for the long term
SM
The membership seems rather quiet
fippo
mh... i wonder which of the two parts will be harder.
fippo
SM: exactly :-/
SM
fippo, you mean getting rid of the members or of Peter?
fippo
stpeter is sacrosanct so that's not a question ;-)
Dave Cridland
fippo, Marketing or motivation, I assumed you meant.
SM
Wait, we agreed on veggie pizzas
SM
so nothing is sacrosaint
fippo
dave: right. sm: hm... point!
SM
Ok, let's be serious. As I mentioned, there are good people
SM
It is a matter of using their talents
SM
And now having one person doing all the work
Dave Cridland
fippo, I think both are very hard, but people at least joined the XSF with some expectation of helping out.
SM
Dave, it seems to me taht peopel actually want to help out
SM
It takes some talk and organization on how to make that expectation work out
Dave Cridland
fippo, Plus I think there's a considerable kudos involved with being an "Assistant XEP Editor" or some such, so overall, I suspect getting our membership being more involved and active would be easier.
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Dave Cridland
However, it would involve stopping a certain nameless person from being such a total workaholic, too.
SM
Dave, I think the certain person can be encouraged:)
fippo
that persons gets cridlands bacon?
SM
No, his significant half would be overjoyed
SM
Cridland could be moved into marketing:)
Dave Cridland
I think there are candidates better suited to that than me.
SM
Dave, it is not about better suited
SM
It helps to spread the workload and someone must do it
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Dave Cridland
No, I mean, the marketing. I can follow orders on that, but I can't properly structure a campaign.
SM
Dave, it takes team work. It is not like a person can think about everything
Dave Cridland
Sure, but one person needs to have the skill to pick the overall strategy for a particular area.
SM
Dave, I would disagree about that
SM
It is for a group to come up with a strategy
SM
It is easier when everyone things about a part
SM
Else mistakes happen
Kev
There's a difference between "It makes sense to have someone with experience lead something" and "one person must do everything alone".
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SM
Yes, Kev
fippo
it's all about feedback in the end
SM
Speaking of feedback, fippo, waiting for you to post to members@:)
Dave Cridland
Right. I'm not suggesting one person should operate in a vacuum and decide everything without reference, but while I may be able to make comments about marketing, I'm not qualified to structure a marketing strategy from scratch.
SM
Dave, do you know XSF?
fippo
arr... i'll compose something on the flight to portland. but then, I have stickers, so do I really need to post? :-)
Dave Cridland
I'd not get many votes if I said "No", would I?
SM
fippo, seriously, it would help
SM
Yes:)
SM
Dave, you know the community
SM
You know what would be bad
SM
That's a start
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fippo
dave: if a marketing person explains a plan to you and you don't understand it, you would ask, right?
Dave Cridland
Right, I can run oversight. But I'm not foolish enough to think I can write the plan in the first place.