bearI posted a note to the blog about the elections and meeting details
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stpeterbear: thanks for the blog post!
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SMHi Dave
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stpeterSM: send me a message (my IM client crashed)
SMDone
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SMDave, what's your opinion about http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2013-October/007268.html ?
Dave CridlandThere's a lot there. My take-home from that is Peter Waher sees marketing, and motivating the membership to take on more of the grunt work.
SMWell, it is a good way to get a community
Dave CridlandI'm aware that stpeter has expressed an interest in delegating some of the work he currently takes on himself.
SMSeriously, it would be good for the long term
SMThe membership seems rather quiet
fippomh... i wonder which of the two parts will be harder.
fippoSM: exactly :-/
SMfippo, you mean getting rid of the members or of Peter?
fippostpeter is sacrosanct so that's not a question ;-)
Dave Cridlandfippo, Marketing or motivation, I assumed you meant.
SMWait, we agreed on veggie pizzas
SMso nothing is sacrosaint
fippodave: right. sm: hm... point!
SMOk, let's be serious. As I mentioned, there are good people
SMIt is a matter of using their talents
SMAnd now having one person doing all the work
Dave Cridlandfippo, I think both are very hard, but people at least joined the XSF with some expectation of helping out.
SMDave, it seems to me taht peopel actually want to help out
SMIt takes some talk and organization on how to make that expectation work out
Dave Cridlandfippo, Plus I think there's a considerable kudos involved with being an "Assistant XEP Editor" or some such, so overall, I suspect getting our membership being more involved and active would be easier.
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Dave CridlandHowever, it would involve stopping a certain nameless person from being such a total workaholic, too.
SMDave, I think the certain person can be encouraged:)
fippothat persons gets cridlands bacon?
SMNo, his significant half would be overjoyed
SMCridland could be moved into marketing:)
Dave CridlandI think there are candidates better suited to that than me.
SMDave, it is not about better suited
SMIt helps to spread the workload and someone must do it
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Dave CridlandNo, I mean, the marketing. I can follow orders on that, but I can't properly structure a campaign.
SMDave, it takes team work. It is not like a person can think about everything
Dave CridlandSure, but one person needs to have the skill to pick the overall strategy for a particular area.
SMDave, I would disagree about that
SMIt is for a group to come up with a strategy
SMIt is easier when everyone things about a part
SMElse mistakes happen
KevThere's a difference between "It makes sense to have someone with experience lead something" and "one person must do everything alone".
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SMYes, Kev
fippoit's all about feedback in the end
SMSpeaking of feedback, fippo, waiting for you to post to members@:)
Dave CridlandRight. I'm not suggesting one person should operate in a vacuum and decide everything without reference, but while I may be able to make comments about marketing, I'm not qualified to structure a marketing strategy from scratch.
SMDave, do you know XSF?
fippoarr... i'll compose something on the flight to portland. but then, I have stickers, so do I really need to post? :-)
Dave CridlandI'd not get many votes if I said "No", would I?
SMfippo, seriously, it would help
SMYes:)
SMDave, you know the community
SMYou know what would be bad
SMThat's a start
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fippodave: if a marketing person explains a plan to you and you don't understand it, you would ask, right?
Dave CridlandRight, I can run oversight. But I'm not foolish enough to think I can write the plan in the first place.