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bear
I posted a note to the blog about the elections and meeting details
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stpeter
bear: thanks for the blog post!
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SM
Hi Dave
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stpeter
SM: send me a message (my IM client crashed)
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SM
Done
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SM
Dave, what's your opinion about http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2013-October/007268.html ?
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Dave Cridland
There's a lot there. My take-home from that is Peter Waher sees marketing, and motivating the membership to take on more of the grunt work.
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SM
Well, it is a good way to get a community
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Dave Cridland
I'm aware that stpeter has expressed an interest in delegating some of the work he currently takes on himself.
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SM
Seriously, it would be good for the long term
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SM
The membership seems rather quiet
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fippo
mh... i wonder which of the two parts will be harder.
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fippo
SM: exactly :-/
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SM
fippo, you mean getting rid of the members or of Peter?
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fippo
stpeter is sacrosanct so that's not a question ;-)
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Dave Cridland
fippo, Marketing or motivation, I assumed you meant.
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SM
Wait, we agreed on veggie pizzas
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SM
so nothing is sacrosaint
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fippo
dave: right. sm: hm... point!
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SM
Ok, let's be serious. As I mentioned, there are good people
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SM
It is a matter of using their talents
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SM
And now having one person doing all the work
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Dave Cridland
fippo, I think both are very hard, but people at least joined the XSF with some expectation of helping out.
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SM
Dave, it seems to me taht peopel actually want to help out
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SM
It takes some talk and organization on how to make that expectation work out
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Dave Cridland
fippo, Plus I think there's a considerable kudos involved with being an "Assistant XEP Editor" or some such, so overall, I suspect getting our membership being more involved and active would be easier.
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Dave Cridland
However, it would involve stopping a certain nameless person from being such a total workaholic, too.
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SM
Dave, I think the certain person can be encouraged:)
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fippo
that persons gets cridlands bacon?
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SM
No, his significant half would be overjoyed
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SM
Cridland could be moved into marketing:)
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Dave Cridland
I think there are candidates better suited to that than me.
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SM
Dave, it is not about better suited
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SM
It helps to spread the workload and someone must do it
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Dave Cridland
No, I mean, the marketing. I can follow orders on that, but I can't properly structure a campaign.
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SM
Dave, it takes team work. It is not like a person can think about everything
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Dave Cridland
Sure, but one person needs to have the skill to pick the overall strategy for a particular area.
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SM
Dave, I would disagree about that
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SM
It is for a group to come up with a strategy
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SM
It is easier when everyone things about a part
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SM
Else mistakes happen
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Kev
There's a difference between "It makes sense to have someone with experience lead something" and "one person must do everything alone".
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SM
Yes, Kev
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fippo
it's all about feedback in the end
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SM
Speaking of feedback, fippo, waiting for you to post to members@:)
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Dave Cridland
Right. I'm not suggesting one person should operate in a vacuum and decide everything without reference, but while I may be able to make comments about marketing, I'm not qualified to structure a marketing strategy from scratch.
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SM
Dave, do you know XSF?
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fippo
arr... i'll compose something on the flight to portland. but then, I have stickers, so do I really need to post? :-)
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Dave Cridland
I'd not get many votes if I said "No", would I?
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SM
fippo, seriously, it would help
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SM
Yes:)
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SM
Dave, you know the community
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SM
You know what would be bad
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SM
That's a start
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fippo
dave: if a marketing person explains a plan to you and you don't understand it, you would ask, right?
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Dave Cridland
Right, I can run oversight. But I'm not foolish enough to think I can write the plan in the first place.
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SM
Dave, can you spot a person who can write one?
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Dave Cridland
I can make reasonable guesses.
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SM
It's good enough