XSF Discussion - 2013-10-15

I posted a note to the blog about the elections and meeting details

bear: thanks for the blog post!

Hi Dave

SM: send me a message (my IM client crashed)

Done

Dave, what's your opinion about http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2013-October/007268.html ?

There's a lot there. My take-home from that is Peter Waher sees marketing, and motivating the membership to take on more of the grunt work.

Well, it is a good way to get a community

I'm aware that stpeter has expressed an interest in delegating some of the work he currently takes on himself.

Seriously, it would be good for the long term

The membership seems rather quiet

mh... i wonder which of the two parts will be harder.

SM: exactly :-/

fippo, you mean getting rid of the members or of Peter?

stpeter is sacrosanct so that's not a question ;-)

fippo, Marketing or motivation, I assumed you meant.

Wait, we agreed on veggie pizzas

so nothing is sacrosaint

dave: right. sm: hm... point!

Ok, let's be serious. As I mentioned, there are good people

It is a matter of using their talents

And now having one person doing all the work

fippo, I think both are very hard, but people at least joined the XSF with some expectation of helping out.

Dave, it seems to me taht peopel actually want to help out

It takes some talk and organization on how to make that expectation work out

fippo, Plus I think there's a considerable kudos involved with being an "Assistant XEP Editor" or some such, so overall, I suspect getting our membership being more involved and active would be easier.

However, it would involve stopping a certain nameless person from being such a total workaholic, too.

Dave, I think the certain person can be encouraged:)

that persons gets cridlands bacon?

No, his significant half would be overjoyed

Cridland could be moved into marketing:)

I think there are candidates better suited to that than me.

Dave, it is not about better suited

It helps to spread the workload and someone must do it

No, I mean, the marketing. I can follow orders on that, but I can't properly structure a campaign.

Dave, it takes team work. It is not like a person can think about everything

Sure, but one person needs to have the skill to pick the overall strategy for a particular area.

Dave, I would disagree about that

It is for a group to come up with a strategy

It is easier when everyone things about a part

Else mistakes happen

There's a difference between "It makes sense to have someone with experience lead something" and "one person must do everything alone".

Yes, Kev

it's all about feedback in the end

Speaking of feedback, fippo, waiting for you to post to members@:)

Right. I'm not suggesting one person should operate in a vacuum and decide everything without reference, but while I may be able to make comments about marketing, I'm not qualified to structure a marketing strategy from scratch.

Dave, do you know XSF?

arr... i'll compose something on the flight to portland. but then, I have stickers, so do I really need to post? :-)

I'd not get many votes if I said "No", would I?

fippo, seriously, it would help

Yes:)

Dave, you know the community

You know what would be bad

That's a start

dave: if a marketing person explains a plan to you and you don't understand it, you would ask, right?

Right, I can run oversight. But I'm not foolish enough to think I can write the plan in the first place.

Dave, can you spot a person who can write one?

I can make reasonable guesses.

It's good enough