KevDoes anyone have a link to the minutes for last week's meeting? I can't find them.
KevOr were they only sent to the board@ list?
fippocant find them either...
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dwdhttps://fund.arkos.io/ -- Instant server, just add Raspberry Pi. Note that it includes a turnkey XMPP server.
SouLyep
dwdIs anyone involved with them already?
dwdAnd does anyone know which XMPP server they (are intending to) use?
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ZashFreedombox?
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SouLI follow someguy at Diaspora* that knows something about arkos, I'll ask that.
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ralphmFrom an initial search, my guess is that it would be Prosody.
Zash\o/
ralphmI think that contributing to this ticket will make that more likely: https://github.com/cznweb/genesis/issues/32
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KevIs it Monday or Tuesday in London?
KevMonday, nvm.
MattJIt's the same day as the rest of the UK, Tuesday
MattJBut while typing, I realised what you meant
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KevLooks like I might be able to make it after all.
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LloydWe've moved the event BTW. Now going to be at Shoreditch works, we're tacking on to the end of an IoT conference so will be a good opportunity for XMPP to get more exposure in that space.
LloydWe're on the end of http://redmonk.com/thingmonk/ which is a practical IoT hacking conf.
KevTime?
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LloydAny time after the end of the conf as there'll be people around 6pm+
KevAssuming I'm not going to be able to turn up until 7ish at best, is there any point doing so, or will you all have gone home by then? :)
KevOver an hour and a half from the office - yikes.
KevI guess that means I'm not likely to be able to make it much before 19:30.
LloydThat's fine, we won't really get started until 7pm, and the first bit is probably me or Steffen doing an XMPP intro
LloydI think you could potentially get away with skipping the intro bit
intosiMake sure you pronounce it right.
intosiRemember: zimpy
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KevI'm quite happy with pronouncing it zimpy :)
intosiI thought you would be.
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fippohttps://twitter.com/HCornflower/status/405440973565468672 -- guess what, xmpp pushing webrtc forward once again :-)
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Lance\o/
LloydGo fippo!
MattJGo XMPP!
fippogo Jingle!
fippoi don't think that will be ready for todays council or board meeting though ;-)
fippoer... tomorrow
MattJWhen will it be ready? And does it work with Prosody? :)
fippowell, https://lambada.jitsi.net is currently powered by prosody
fippoit's using MUC... but that's an implementation detail
fippoi really need to work with emil on making CoLiBri ready for submission
fippoit trumps muji
MattJand COIN?
fippoand probably the hangouts stuff google never published as well
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fippowell... i still dread COIN
MattJ:)
fippobut it's not used
fippothree of the four clients in that videochat are mostly standard strophe.jingle ones
fippothere is a proprietary extension, a custom jingle action
fippowhere i am not sure how to best solve that in a jingleish way
SouLAwesom!
SouLe*
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dwdSo I'm assuming you're set to demo this and have a proper spec by FOSDEM, right?
dwdNo pressure, or anything.
fipposure. colibri is a dumb one job protocol
fippoeasy to document
fippo"hey bridge, get me a channel"
dwdAnd the rest?
fippostock jingle
fippoand working around chrome bugs
fippoI had it working with lance's unmodified stanzaio client until recently
dwdWhat's the "proprietary extension"?
fippoan addsource jingle extension
fippowhich has ssma children (which will be standard as soon as the xmpp editor returns from the well-deserved vacation and the council votes)
fippobut that's it
dwdOh, wait. So out of four clients, A B C and D, A says to the bridge "hey, dude, channel!" and then basically spoofs the bridge's transport params to B, C, and D?
fippoA is called "focus"
fippobut yeah, that's it
dwdOK, nice. So B/C/D don't need any special sauce? They can just be naïve Jingle clients?
fippoA also relays some more information from B to C and D, C to B and D and D to B and C
fippomostly.
fippothey need a little bit of extra information in chrome right now
fippoand the ability to demux multiple video streams on the same rtp session
dwdOh, you're muxing. Gotcha.
fippobecause chrome muxes now
fippoat some point chrome is going to do different m-lines for that
fippoat least that is what's called unified plan
fippoI prefer the current plan (B)
fippobut there is no roadmap for unified even
fippoi'd note that with unified, we'd solve the proprietary stuff in a standard compliant way