http://netsecpro.spreadshirt.de/ - I've asked Steffan Winter (the creator) if he'd mind us stealing the idea. Perfect concept for FOSDEM, I suspect.
ralphm
heh
ralphm
But would you fly with one?
Zash
Hehe
dwd
No, it's not a great t-shirt for airport security checkpoints.
dwd
> Would you be upset if I purloined that phrase for t-shirts for the XMPP
> Standards Foundation to give away and/or sell?
On one condition: I want one of those then :-) XL!
Stefan
Kev
I wonder if 'chat encryption' is more XMPP that 'mass encryption'
dwd
Well, "mass encryption" is a better prhase.
Kev
It is.
ralphm
and hey, XMPP is more than chat. Tsk.
Kev
Indeed.
Kev
But 'weapons of mass encryption' is vague and not particularly related to XMPP.
Kev
So...swings and roundabouts.
dwd
Wait, there's swings?
intosi
Wheeeee!
Kev
dwd: Uhm, yes. What type of roads do /you/ drive on?
intosi
Roads? Where Dave goes, there are no roads ;)
dwd
That's true on my commute into the office.
intosi
Morning traffic was hell: major delays at the shower.
dwd
intosi, If there was actual congestion at the shower, that sounds like it might have been fun.
intosi
:)
Kev
I had major delays on the 'why on Earth did I try a jog only two days after training?'.
ralphm
Jogging. Pft. Nothing beats drumming.
Kev
I hadn't considered doing that for exercise. Might be more fun :)
intosi
Sports: drumming.
ralphm
Indeed.
intosi
I like the sound of that.
ralphm
I think it also exercises many more different muscle areas.
dwd
So does swimming.
dwd
I wonder if you could combine the two.
ralphm
http://vimeo.com/49273882
ralphm
But don't do it if you're attached to your gear.
dwd
ralphm, Well, if you're attached to your gear, and your gear is at the bottom of a pool, you'd drown.
intosi
Best not to use your vDrums for that.
dwd
Although Sony ones might be waterproof, these days.
dwd
If Sony make them.
ralphm
dwd: amateur! There are ways to deal with that. Diving equipment has been around for quite some time now.
intosi
Also: hard to get your timing right.
dwdwrites a mail to members@ suggesting they hang around in the chatroom more.
Kev
intosi: My vDrums are going nowhere near water.
dwd
You live in Wales. Water falleth from the sky.
ralphm
Kev: do they ever go outside?
Kev
ralphm: They do not.
dwd
How did you get them in the house?
Kev
ralphm: I haven't gigged in a very very long time, and if I did I would take an acoustic kit.
Kev
dwd: Are going, not have never been.
ralphm
Ah, I sometimes take them along for a gig. I think a few times played outside, even.
intosi
ralphm: not when there was the slightest chance of rain.
Kev
I've got a set of Flats that would be as convenient as vdrums for shipping around the place, and are acoustic.
dwd
Kev, You see how confusing it gets when you don't use RFC 2119?
Kev
I don't have a 'real' acoustic kit any more.
ralphm
intosi: well, once I used them at a xmas thing. Wasn't there snow? (We were under a tent)
intosi
Lemme check, I think I still have a few pictures.
intosi
Ah, I don't have pictures of that gig. You might be right.
dwd
Ah, "You might be right" == "I lack evidence you are wrong"
Kev
Oh. My vdrums are quite a lot cheaper now than they used to be. A lot a lot, actually. How upsetting.
ralphm
Have you seen the TD-30 module, though? Pretty nice!
intosi
dwd: rightr
Kev
Mine's only the TD-4 module.
intosi
I smell G.A.S....
ralphm
I have a TD-12
Kev
Although with the mesh heads instead of the rubber mats.
ralphm
intosi: well, probably a Octapad, first (http://www.roland.com/products/en/SPD-30/)
intosi
That would be great. No more overloading of thunder or whoops on the bell of your crash ;)
ralphm
Interestingly, the white ones are less expensive than the black ones.
Kev
The octopads are cute.
Kev
s/to/ta/
intosi
The cool kids pick black, the even cooler ones can get away with white.
intosi
The white one will match nicely with the mesh on your drums.
ralphm
true, but all of the /rest/ of the kit is black
intosi
Right.
intosi
And to make this more XMPP-ish: your kit should set your user mood based on the way you drum
Kev
I still want an XMPP-based way of jamming.
ralphm
MIDI over XMPP doesn't seem like it would be hard
ralphm
Dealing with latency: delay a few bars
Kev
Doesn't 'delay a few bars' rather introduce latency, rather than deal with it? :)
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dwd
I don't know what the delay in audio/Jingle is, but having synchronized MIDI and Jingle would be amusing.
intosi
You want hard promises on latency.
dwd
intosi, "There WILL be latency. I promise".
intosi
dwd: true, and you can anticipate, as long as you have ridig limits (not being: latency will be between 0.0 and 60.0 seconds)
intosi
But still, any noticeable latency will kill all the fun in jamming.
dwd
I wonder if you could synchronize multiple audio streams, so as long as your remotes were all playing to a metronome, you could at least do a distributed performance?
ralphm
my point was that for *jamming* having sound delayed (exactly) 4 bars might make the experience fun
intosi
That could actually work.
Kev
That might work.
intosi
So you would play something, I would hear it immediately, and you'd hear my lines four bars delayed.