dwdhttp://netsecpro.spreadshirt.de/ - I've asked Steffan Winter (the creator) if he'd mind us stealing the idea. Perfect concept for FOSDEM, I suspect.
ralphmheh
ralphmBut would you fly with one?
ZashHehe
dwdNo, it's not a great t-shirt for airport security checkpoints.
dwd> Would you be upset if I purloined that phrase for t-shirts for the XMPP
> Standards Foundation to give away and/or sell?
On one condition: I want one of those then :-) XL!
Stefan
KevI wonder if 'chat encryption' is more XMPP that 'mass encryption'
dwdWell, "mass encryption" is a better prhase.
KevIt is.
ralphmand hey, XMPP is more than chat. Tsk.
KevIndeed.
KevBut 'weapons of mass encryption' is vague and not particularly related to XMPP.
KevSo...swings and roundabouts.
dwdWait, there's swings?
intosiWheeeee!
Kevdwd: Uhm, yes. What type of roads do /you/ drive on?
intosiRoads? Where Dave goes, there are no roads ;)
dwdThat's true on my commute into the office.
intosiMorning traffic was hell: major delays at the shower.
dwdintosi, If there was actual congestion at the shower, that sounds like it might have been fun.
intosi:)
KevI had major delays on the 'why on Earth did I try a jog only two days after training?'.
ralphmJogging. Pft. Nothing beats drumming.
KevI hadn't considered doing that for exercise. Might be more fun :)
intosiSports: drumming.
ralphmIndeed.
intosiI like the sound of that.
ralphmI think it also exercises many more different muscle areas.
dwdSo does swimming.
dwdI wonder if you could combine the two.
ralphmhttp://vimeo.com/49273882
ralphmBut don't do it if you're attached to your gear.
dwdralphm, Well, if you're attached to your gear, and your gear is at the bottom of a pool, you'd drown.
intosiBest not to use your vDrums for that.
dwdAlthough Sony ones might be waterproof, these days.
dwdIf Sony make them.
ralphmdwd: amateur! There are ways to deal with that. Diving equipment has been around for quite some time now.
intosiAlso: hard to get your timing right.
dwdwrites a mail to members@ suggesting they hang around in the chatroom more.
Kevintosi: My vDrums are going nowhere near water.
dwdYou live in Wales. Water falleth from the sky.
ralphmKev: do they ever go outside?
Kevralphm: They do not.
dwdHow did you get them in the house?
Kevralphm: I haven't gigged in a very very long time, and if I did I would take an acoustic kit.
Kevdwd: Are going, not have never been.
ralphmAh, I sometimes take them along for a gig. I think a few times played outside, even.
intosiralphm: not when there was the slightest chance of rain.
KevI've got a set of Flats that would be as convenient as vdrums for shipping around the place, and are acoustic.
dwdKev, You see how confusing it gets when you don't use RFC 2119?
KevI don't have a 'real' acoustic kit any more.
ralphmintosi: well, once I used them at a xmas thing. Wasn't there snow? (We were under a tent)
intosiLemme check, I think I still have a few pictures.
intosiAh, I don't have pictures of that gig. You might be right.
dwdAh, "You might be right" == "I lack evidence you are wrong"
KevOh. My vdrums are quite a lot cheaper now than they used to be. A lot a lot, actually. How upsetting.
ralphmHave you seen the TD-30 module, though? Pretty nice!
intosidwd: rightr
KevMine's only the TD-4 module.
intosiI smell G.A.S....
ralphmI have a TD-12
KevAlthough with the mesh heads instead of the rubber mats.
ralphmintosi: well, probably a Octapad, first (http://www.roland.com/products/en/SPD-30/)
intosiThat would be great. No more overloading of thunder or whoops on the bell of your crash ;)
ralphmInterestingly, the white ones are less expensive than the black ones.
KevThe octopads are cute.
Kevs/to/ta/
intosiThe cool kids pick black, the even cooler ones can get away with white.
intosiThe white one will match nicely with the mesh on your drums.
ralphmtrue, but all of the /rest/ of the kit is black
intosiRight.
intosiAnd to make this more XMPP-ish: your kit should set your user mood based on the way you drum
KevI still want an XMPP-based way of jamming.
ralphmMIDI over XMPP doesn't seem like it would be hard
ralphmDealing with latency: delay a few bars
KevDoesn't 'delay a few bars' rather introduce latency, rather than deal with it? :)
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dwdI don't know what the delay in audio/Jingle is, but having synchronized MIDI and Jingle would be amusing.
intosiYou want hard promises on latency.
dwdintosi, "There WILL be latency. I promise".
intosidwd: true, and you can anticipate, as long as you have ridig limits (not being: latency will be between 0.0 and 60.0 seconds)
intosiBut still, any noticeable latency will kill all the fun in jamming.
dwdI wonder if you could synchronize multiple audio streams, so as long as your remotes were all playing to a metronome, you could at least do a distributed performance?
ralphmmy point was that for *jamming* having sound delayed (exactly) 4 bars might make the experience fun
intosiThat could actually work.
KevThat might work.
intosiSo you would play something, I would hear it immediately, and you'd hear my lines four bars delayed.
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