XSF Discussion - 2013-12-11

how can we survive without IMS?

let's stop doing this xmpp stuff and do IMS instead

so... identity providers are cooler than federation. because instead of two messaging servers you need one messaging server and an identity provider.

mh... I don't get that

people are hopefully going to like emils talk just because it doesn't tell them about IMS

stpeter: how many business agreements did you sign for jabber.org federation?

fippo: how do you mean?

i just heard federation requires business agreements

I have my servers and DNS make all my biz arrangements on my behalf. Job done.

there is the implicit agreeement that you will behave properly, too

this server broke the biz agreement and was dealt with:

ip route add blackhole 65.103.108.219

(broken ejabberd setup)

exactly.

board meeting in 30 minutes (or so)

There's a small but finit chance that Kev might not manage to squeeze the Council meeting into 20 minutes this time. :-)

Agenda Items: G outreach update FOSDEM update (if any) any liason update from Council meeting

yea, I suspect we may cause him some meeting angst today ;)

oh poo! I am such an airhead - did not do minutes last week

Dave Cridland: It's almost guaranteed.

Is the Board meeting taking place today?

yes, just waiting for the council meeting to finish

and they are almost done

I have to leave in 20 minutes.

it will be a very fast one today

if it goes more than 10 minutes we are bad bad people ;)

ok, council meeting is over

Council's done.

11 items, 24 minutes. Go go gadget Board.

quorom check? me, laura, simon - dave? ralph?

huzzah!

nicely done Council!

Kev: :-)

what's the agenda today?

ok, dave is here - ralph?

GSoC Update, FOSDEM update if ralph is present, Liason request update

ok, we have quorom

Try ralphm too.

ralphm ?

GSoC update - basically the wiki page is up, gathering info - I will post another members@ mail item to stir the pot

we have time before we have to submit so it's not urgent(ish)

I have a bunch of xmpp topics from the buddycloud side that we're fleshing out and will post this evening.

thanks!

when is submission?

oh poo- you would ask for dates - i'll find out and update the wiki with them

after the meeting

feb 03

is when org applications start

err 3 Feb 2014

anything else for GSoC ?

ok, Google outreach

does anyone have anything new to add?

if not, we can ask again next meeting

ralphm? sounds like FOSDEM update is same as last week - no change

We should hear about the Lounge at the end of the week.

Well, SUnday, I think the announcement is.

thanks dave

ok, Peter - liason request to Council update?

Once we have that we can press on with t-shirts etc.

+1

Peter made the request to the Council for volunteers within the XSF to be found for a UPnP Work Team

the council will ask for volunteers and get back to him

ok, anything else to talk about?

bear: we had a chat about it in the Council meeting -- I will work with the Council to write up a short set of "requirements" / "job description" for people to act as "observers" with the UPnP Forum

thanks peter

I will also send a PDF of the proposed agreement to the members list, once it is a bit more stable

should be soon

I am still not sure whether I can travel to FOSDEM -- quite a bit up in the air for me right now

ah - summit location discussion

if we have the summit in London, we (IMO) should still have a meetup at FOSDEM

so the question is do we have our formal summit at London or FOSDEM - no?

stpeter, If you're up in the air anyway, may as well land in Brussels...

y'all can hold a Summit without me, naturally :-)

sorry guys - dropped off. Hanging off a crappy BOSH connection in the middle of Brazil.

BOSH...

go BOSH!

well, I suspect a lot of folks will be having the same trouble with FOSDEM *and* London because IETF

bear: probably not that many

then we need to find out

bear: although I know that's the case for Matt Miller anyway

If there is no summit, I'll probably save my funds and make it to London instead. Fosdem is nice and all but Brussels isn't worth it.

heh

k, then i'll just ask members@ to find out - the question will be posed: if we have a meeting in London, how many will go to FOSDEM

If it is to be London based, I can help with organisation etc

As I am here

thanks, Laura

anything else that needs to be discussed?

Laura, It's not that hard to organize one in Brussels from here, either. There's a benefit to it being the home of the EU.

quick update before my connection breaks again: I've been chatting with the author of http://blog.huque.com/2012/10/dnssec-and-certificates.html about him adding a "how to secure your XMPP connections using DNSSEC" section to wiki.xmpp.org/web/Securing_XMPP. Will he need to do anything to get a wiki account?

simon: I know Shumon, and I can set him up

simon - just email peter, kev or me

(he runs the XMPP servers for upenn.edu)

thanks peter.

oh, then I should introduce myself to him, upenn is in my neighborhood

Ok guys - I need to drop off. I'll be online for the rest of this week and then go dark until the 10th.

simon: thanks!!

bear: for sure

are we to meet next week?

Have a nice Christmas and all that :)

or punt till new year

I'm good for next week.

next week, quick meeting with updates - sounds like a plan

I can do next week, then I;m out until w/c 6th jan

Should have the FOSDEM news, for one thing.

k - even without quorum I can gather updates and then email members@

any other agenda items? if not shall we close?

bear: yes, true

I feel we should probably gas about something irrelevant for another 40 minutes.

bear: none here, but I will post to members@ with other topics perhaps

(there are other liaison relationships in the works, too)

thanks peter

laura - anything to add before closing meeting?

Just that Simon and I are continuing work with the website

Should have more to share post-Christmas

\o/

Laura, Is there a staging site somewhere with this on?

And on that note, by all! Time for an Xmas party

Dace, not yet. We are one stage before that

it will be on the gh-pages version once they give me text to make into html

*Dave*

ok, sounds like we are done - thanks all

thanks everyone

I am taking two weeks off at the end of the year but will be paying attention to various lists and even catching up on some things, I hope

after the 22nd I'm on holiday also

but I suspect you are much busier than I

maybe :-)

pfft - totally

yes! meeting and minutes in the same day!

congratulations

:)