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fippo
how can we survive without IMS?
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fippo
let's stop doing this xmpp stuff and do IMS instead
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fippo
so... identity providers are cooler than federation. because instead of two messaging servers you need one messaging server and an identity provider.
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fippo
mh... I don't get that
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fippo
people are hopefully going to like emils talk just because it doesn't tell them about IMS
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fippo
stpeter: how many business agreements did you sign for jabber.org federation?
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Simon
fippo: how do you mean?
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fippo
i just heard federation requires business agreements
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Simon
I have my servers and DNS make all my biz arrangements on my behalf. Job done.
- fippo nods
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fippo
there is the implicit agreeement that you will behave properly, too
- Simon looks through bash history…
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Simon
this server broke the biz agreement and was dealt with:
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Simon
ip route add blackhole 65.103.108.219
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Simon
(broken ejabberd setup)
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fippo
exactly.
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bear
board meeting in 30 minutes (or so)
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Dave Cridland
There's a small but finit chance that Kev might not manage to squeeze the Council meeting into 20 minutes this time. :-)
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bear
Agenda Items: G outreach update FOSDEM update (if any) any liason update from Council meeting
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bear
yea, I suspect we may cause him some meeting angst today ;)
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bear
oh poo! I am such an airhead - did not do minutes last week
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Kev
Dave Cridland: It's almost guaranteed.
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Laura
Is the Board meeting taking place today?
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bear
yes, just waiting for the council meeting to finish
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bear
and they are almost done
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simon
I have to leave in 20 minutes.
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bear
it will be a very fast one today
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bear
if it goes more than 10 minutes we are bad bad people ;)
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bear
ok, council meeting is over
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Kev
Council's done.
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Kev
11 items, 24 minutes. Go go gadget Board.
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bear
quorom check? me, laura, simon - dave? ralph?
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stpeter
huzzah!
- Dave Cridland prepares to be bad bad people.
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bear
nicely done Council!
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stpeter
Kev: :-)
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simon
what's the agenda today?
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bear
ok, dave is here - ralph?
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bear
GSoC Update, FOSDEM update if ralph is present, Liason request update
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bear
ok, we have quorom
- bear bangs the gavel
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Dave Cridland
Try ralphm too.
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bear
ralphm ?
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bear
GSoC update - basically the wiki page is up, gathering info - I will post another members@ mail item to stir the pot
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bear
we have time before we have to submit so it's not urgent(ish)
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simon
I have a bunch of xmpp topics from the buddycloud side that we're fleshing out and will post this evening.
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bear
thanks!
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simon
when is submission?
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bear
oh poo- you would ask for dates - i'll find out and update the wiki with them
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bear
after the meeting
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bear
feb 03
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bear
is when org applications start
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bear
err 3 Feb 2014
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bear
anything else for GSoC ?
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bear
ok, Google outreach
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bear
does anyone have anything new to add?
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bear
if not, we can ask again next meeting
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bear
ralphm? sounds like FOSDEM update is same as last week - no change
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Dave Cridland
We should hear about the Lounge at the end of the week.
- bear apologizes if this is too fast of a pace
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Dave Cridland
Well, SUnday, I think the announcement is.
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bear
thanks dave
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bear
ok, Peter - liason request to Council update?
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Dave Cridland
Once we have that we can press on with t-shirts etc.
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bear
+1
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bear
Peter made the request to the Council for volunteers within the XSF to be found for a UPnP Work Team
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bear
the council will ask for volunteers and get back to him
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bear
ok, anything else to talk about?
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stpeter
bear: we had a chat about it in the Council meeting -- I will work with the Council to write up a short set of "requirements" / "job description" for people to act as "observers" with the UPnP Forum
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bear
thanks peter
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stpeter
I will also send a PDF of the proposed agreement to the members list, once it is a bit more stable
- bear makes a note to note get wired before next meeting
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stpeter
should be soon
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stpeter
I am still not sure whether I can travel to FOSDEM -- quite a bit up in the air for me right now
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bear
ah - summit location discussion
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bear
if we have the summit in London, we (IMO) should still have a meetup at FOSDEM
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bear
so the question is do we have our formal summit at London or FOSDEM - no?
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Dave Cridland
stpeter, If you're up in the air anyway, may as well land in Brussels...
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stpeter
y'all can hold a Summit without me, naturally :-)
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simon
sorry guys - dropped off. Hanging off a crappy BOSH connection in the middle of Brazil.
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simon
BOSH...
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stpeter
go BOSH!
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bear
well, I suspect a lot of folks will be having the same trouble with FOSDEM *and* London because IETF
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stpeter
bear: probably not that many
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bear
then we need to find out
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stpeter
bear: although I know that's the case for Matt Miller anyway
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simon
If there is no summit, I'll probably save my funds and make it to London instead. Fosdem is nice and all but Brussels isn't worth it.
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stpeter
heh
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bear
k, then i'll just ask members@ to find out - the question will be posed: if we have a meeting in London, how many will go to FOSDEM
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Laura
If it is to be London based, I can help with organisation etc
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Laura
As I am here
- stpeter nods
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stpeter
thanks, Laura
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bear
anything else that needs to be discussed?
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Dave Cridland
Laura, It's not that hard to organize one in Brussels from here, either. There's a benefit to it being the home of the EU.
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simon
quick update before my connection breaks again: I've been chatting with the author of http://blog.huque.com/2012/10/dnssec-and-certificates.html about him adding a "how to secure your XMPP connections using DNSSEC" section to wiki.xmpp.org/web/Securing_XMPP. Will he need to do anything to get a wiki account?
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stpeter
simon: I know Shumon, and I can set him up
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bear
simon - just email peter, kev or me
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simon
(he runs the XMPP servers for upenn.edu)
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simon
thanks peter.
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bear
oh, then I should introduce myself to him, upenn is in my neighborhood
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simon
Ok guys - I need to drop off. I'll be online for the rest of this week and then go dark until the 10th.
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stpeter
simon: thanks!!
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stpeter
bear: for sure
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bear
are we to meet next week?
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simon
Have a nice Christmas and all that :)
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bear
or punt till new year
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Dave Cridland
I'm good for next week.
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bear
next week, quick meeting with updates - sounds like a plan
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Laura
I can do next week, then I;m out until w/c 6th jan
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Dave Cridland
Should have the FOSDEM news, for one thing.
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bear
k - even without quorum I can gather updates and then email members@
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bear
any other agenda items? if not shall we close?
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stpeter
bear: yes, true
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Dave Cridland
I feel we should probably gas about something irrelevant for another 40 minutes.
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stpeter
bear: none here, but I will post to members@ with other topics perhaps
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stpeter
(there are other liaison relationships in the works, too)
- bear shoves dave into a closet
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bear
thanks peter
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bear
laura - anything to add before closing meeting?
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Laura
Just that Simon and I are continuing work with the website
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Laura
Should have more to share post-Christmas
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bear
\o/
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Dave Cridland
Laura, Is there a staging site somewhere with this on?
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Laura
And on that note, by all! Time for an Xmas party
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Laura
Dace, not yet. We are one stage before that
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bear
it will be on the gh-pages version once they give me text to make into html
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Laura
*Dave*
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bear
ok, sounds like we are done - thanks all
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bear
thanks everyone
- bear goes to do the minutes now instead of later
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stpeter
I am taking two weeks off at the end of the year but will be paying attention to various lists and even catching up on some things, I hope
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bear
after the 22nd I'm on holiday also
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bear
but I suspect you are much busier than I
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stpeter
maybe :-)
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bear
pfft - totally
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bear
yes! meeting and minutes in the same day!
- bear celebrates silly things
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winfried
congratulations
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bear
:)