XSF Discussion - 2013-12-13

http://bloggeek.me/xmpp-federation-url-emails/#comment-4739 -- finally someone who understands

lance: I am wondering how to comment on http://bloggeek.me/andyet-webrtc-interview/

other than "^5"

ralphm, You've not heard from FOSDEM early, by any chance, have you?

http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/thirteenth-council/ <-- linked from http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/ but doesn't seem to lead anywhere. can a wp-admin look into that please?

We should probably do a post about new Strophe.js, too, given its importance in the XMPP world.

right.

is there any likely correlation between "We embedded an XMPP Server in XWiki (vysper)"

and "Difficulties with ordering of signaling messages"

Gosh. I didn't know anyone had deployed vysper.

that is what I thought, too

I have actually seen a student from the TU dresden do an evaluation of vysper for his master thesis

emcho: are your slides available for public download, too?

i.e. somewhere you can reference them in a g+ post :-)

dwd: sadly, no

ralphm, We'll find out by Monday, won't we?

I sure hope so, yes

Usually, they are right on schedule.

fippo, FWIW, I don't think you can abstain, as such, since on Council you can generally only veto. So an abstain is the same as not exercising your veto.

fippo, You could abstain from an actual vote, though I can't think of one the Council does aside from voting in its Chair.

да живее пощата :)

I agree completely.

argh!

sorry!

Bulgarian: "Live mail">

"Viva the postal service"

dwd: great, then i am +1 on the stuff i wrote :-)

just expressing my frustration in the wrong window :)

I suspect it's meant to be Russian, though in that case Google can't translate it properly. "Yes, livlier poschata", it suggests.

fippo, No, you're not, you're merely not invoking your veto. You can't be "+1", as such, you can merely be "!-1".

dwd: but in Bulgarian, Google Translate says 'live mail'.

ralphm, Maybe emcho is going to work for Microsoft?

dwd, ralphm: it's Bulgarian, it means "Long live the postal service" and it was a wrongly directed expression of frustration at the French postal services :)

sorry about that :)

emcho, Complaining to the French postal service in Bulgarian isn't going to be very effective.

emcho: no, please complain about inefficient delivery mechanisms

Hey, postal services are in my good books - my wife's Christmas present arrived from Texas today.

dwd: for which christmas was that? :)

dwd: I'll just stay with "I'd like to see this published" :-)

fippo: the traditional way to say that is 'no objections'

This one coming. I'd say what it is, but she has a habit of sneaking in here when I'm making a cuppa, and ends up reading whatever I've left on screen.

emcho: the postal service should use an IMS architecture

oh yeah! i hadn't thought of that way to further screw it up :)

ralphm, She's not here yet; still in work. For another half hour or so.

dwd: sure, but she will read it later

dwd: No, Council votes on publishing new versions of Draft+ XEPs.

And advancement.

Oh, yes, indeed.

(And must have a majority)

Although it's still -1 to veto.

Yes.

I slouch corrected.

But abstinence has relevance.

Yes, it makes the heart grow fonder.

dwd: I imagine the consultation will go as follows. Board: "Peter, please accept this procedural XEP." Peter: "well, ok!"

ralphm, Did you like my request to put it in the Inbox?

Well, looks fine.

I'm wondering if "IETF" is an affiliation and if we are past the 15% point for it.

Heh. I think it's OK as long as nobody is representing it.

I was wondering if we could (and perhaps even should) count open source projects.

ralphm: the ietf has no members ;-)

fippo: nothing in our by laws talk about the need of actual membership

We should direct anyone who still thinks XMPP is verbose and chatty to take a look at the STOX drafts - XMPP->SIP reads like an amplification attack.

:)

XMPP isn't verbose? Hmm, but does it use JSON? Or binary?

hhhhh

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