http://bloggeek.me/xmpp-federation-url-emails/#comment-4739 -- finally someone who understands
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fippo
lance: I am wondering how to comment on http://bloggeek.me/andyet-webrtc-interview/
fippo
other than "^5"
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Dave Cridland
ralphm, You've not heard from FOSDEM early, by any chance, have you?
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fippo
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/thirteenth-council/ <-- linked from http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/ but doesn't seem to lead anywhere. can a wp-admin look into that please?
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Dave Cridland
We should probably do a post about new Strophe.js, too, given its importance in the XMPP world.
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fippo
right.
fippolooks into convincing the xwiki people to drop their strange non-jingle stuff in favor of one of the jingle implementations
fippo
is there any likely correlation between "We embedded an XMPP Server in XWiki (vysper)"
fippo
and "Difficulties with ordering of signaling messages"
Dave Cridland
Gosh. I didn't know anyone had deployed vysper.
fippo
that is what I thought, too
fippo
I have actually seen a student from the TU dresden do an evaluation of vysper for his master thesis
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emcho: are your slides available for public download, too?
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i.e. somewhere you can reference them in a g+ post :-)
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ralphm
dwd: sadly, no
dwd
ralphm, We'll find out by Monday, won't we?
ralphm
I sure hope so, yes
ralphm
Usually, they are right on schedule.
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dwd
fippo, FWIW, I don't think you can abstain, as such, since on Council you can generally only veto. So an abstain is the same as not exercising your veto.
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dwd
fippo, You could abstain from an actual vote, though I can't think of one the Council does aside from voting in its Chair.
emcho
да живее пощата :)
Simon
I agree completely.
emcho
argh!
emcho
sorry!
dwd
Bulgarian: "Live mail">
emcho
"Viva the postal service"
fippo
dwd: great, then i am +1 on the stuff i wrote :-)
emcho
just expressing my frustration in the wrong window :)
dwd
I suspect it's meant to be Russian, though in that case Google can't translate it properly. "Yes, livlier poschata", it suggests.
dwd
fippo, No, you're not, you're merely not invoking your veto. You can't be "+1", as such, you can merely be "!-1".
ralphm
dwd: but in Bulgarian, Google Translate says 'live mail'.
dwd
ralphm, Maybe emcho is going to work for Microsoft?
emcho
dwd, ralphm: it's Bulgarian, it means "Long live the postal service" and it was a wrongly directed expression of frustration at the French postal services :)
emcho
sorry about that :)
dwd
emcho, Complaining to the French postal service in Bulgarian isn't going to be very effective.
ralphm
emcho: no, please complain about inefficient delivery mechanisms
dwd
Hey, postal services are in my good books - my wife's Christmas present arrived from Texas today.
emcho
dwd: for which christmas was that? :)
fippo
dwd: I'll just stay with "I'd like to see this published" :-)
ralphm
fippo: the traditional way to say that is 'no objections'
dwd
This one coming. I'd say what it is, but she has a habit of sneaking in here when I'm making a cuppa, and ends up reading whatever I've left on screen.
fippo
emcho: the postal service should use an IMS architecture
emcho
oh yeah! i hadn't thought of that way to further screw it up :)
ralphmwaves to dwd's wife
dwd
ralphm, She's not here yet; still in work. For another half hour or so.
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dwd: sure, but she will read it later
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dwd: No, Council votes on publishing new versions of Draft+ XEPs.
Kev
And advancement.
dwd
Oh, yes, indeed.
Kev
(And must have a majority)
dwd
Although it's still -1 to veto.
Kev
Yes.
dwd
I slouch corrected.
Kev
But abstinence has relevance.
dwd
Yes, it makes the heart grow fonder.
ralphm
dwd: I imagine the consultation will go as follows. Board: "Peter, please accept this procedural XEP." Peter: "well, ok!"
dwd
ralphm, Did you like my request to put it in the Inbox?
ralphm
Well, looks fine.
ralphm
I'm wondering if "IETF" is an affiliation and if we are past the 15% point for it.
dwd
Heh. I think it's OK as long as nobody is representing it.
dwd
I was wondering if we could (and perhaps even should) count open source projects.
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fippo
ralphm: the ietf has no members ;-)
ralphm
fippo: nothing in our by laws talk about the need of actual membership
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dwd
We should direct anyone who still thinks XMPP is verbose and chatty to take a look at the STOX drafts - XMPP->SIP reads like an amplification attack.
MattJ
:)
waqas
XMPP isn't verbose? Hmm, but does it use JSON? Or binary?