XSF Discussion - 2013-12-13

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  19. fippo http://bloggeek.me/xmpp-federation-url-emails/#comment-4739 -- finally someone who understands
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  23. fippo lance: I am wondering how to comment on http://bloggeek.me/andyet-webrtc-interview/
  24. fippo other than "^5"
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  46. Dave Cridland ralphm, You've not heard from FOSDEM early, by any chance, have you?
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  50. fippo http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/thirteenth-council/ <-- linked from http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/ but doesn't seem to lead anywhere. can a wp-admin look into that please?
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  55. Dave Cridland We should probably do a post about new Strophe.js, too, given its importance in the XMPP world.
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  57. fippo right.
  58. fippo looks into convincing the xwiki people to drop their strange non-jingle stuff in favor of one of the jingle implementations
  59. fippo is there any likely correlation between "We embedded an XMPP Server in XWiki (vysper)"
  60. fippo and "Difficulties with ordering of signaling messages"
  61. Dave Cridland Gosh. I didn't know anyone had deployed vysper.
  62. fippo that is what I thought, too
  63. fippo I have actually seen a student from the TU dresden do an evaluation of vysper for his master thesis
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  67. fippo emcho: are your slides available for public download, too?
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  70. fippo i.e. somewhere you can reference them in a g+ post :-)
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  92. ralphm dwd: sadly, no
  93. dwd ralphm, We'll find out by Monday, won't we?
  94. ralphm I sure hope so, yes
  95. ralphm Usually, they are right on schedule.
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  105. dwd fippo, FWIW, I don't think you can abstain, as such, since on Council you can generally only veto. So an abstain is the same as not exercising your veto.
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  108. dwd fippo, You could abstain from an actual vote, though I can't think of one the Council does aside from voting in its Chair.
  109. emcho да живее пощата :)
  110. Simon I agree completely.
  111. emcho argh!
  112. emcho sorry!
  113. dwd Bulgarian: "Live mail">
  114. emcho "Viva the postal service"
  115. fippo dwd: great, then i am +1 on the stuff i wrote :-)
  116. emcho just expressing my frustration in the wrong window :)
  117. dwd I suspect it's meant to be Russian, though in that case Google can't translate it properly. "Yes, livlier poschata", it suggests.
  118. dwd fippo, No, you're not, you're merely not invoking your veto. You can't be "+1", as such, you can merely be "!-1".
  119. ralphm dwd: but in Bulgarian, Google Translate says 'live mail'.
  120. dwd ralphm, Maybe emcho is going to work for Microsoft?
  121. emcho dwd, ralphm: it's Bulgarian, it means "Long live the postal service" and it was a wrongly directed expression of frustration at the French postal services :)
  122. emcho sorry about that :)
  123. dwd emcho, Complaining to the French postal service in Bulgarian isn't going to be very effective.
  124. ralphm emcho: no, please complain about inefficient delivery mechanisms
  125. dwd Hey, postal services are in my good books - my wife's Christmas present arrived from Texas today.
  126. emcho dwd: for which christmas was that? :)
  127. fippo dwd: I'll just stay with "I'd like to see this published" :-)
  128. ralphm fippo: the traditional way to say that is 'no objections'
  129. dwd This one coming. I'd say what it is, but she has a habit of sneaking in here when I'm making a cuppa, and ends up reading whatever I've left on screen.
  130. fippo emcho: the postal service should use an IMS architecture
  131. emcho oh yeah! i hadn't thought of that way to further screw it up :)
  132. ralphm waves to dwd's wife
  133. dwd ralphm, She's not here yet; still in work. For another half hour or so.
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  135. ralphm dwd: sure, but she will read it later
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  140. Kev dwd: No, Council votes on publishing new versions of Draft+ XEPs.
  141. Kev And advancement.
  142. dwd Oh, yes, indeed.
  143. Kev (And must have a majority)
  144. dwd Although it's still -1 to veto.
  145. Kev Yes.
  146. dwd I slouch corrected.
  147. Kev But abstinence has relevance.
  148. dwd Yes, it makes the heart grow fonder.
  149. ralphm dwd: I imagine the consultation will go as follows. Board: "Peter, please accept this procedural XEP." Peter: "well, ok!"
  150. dwd ralphm, Did you like my request to put it in the Inbox?
  151. ralphm Well, looks fine.
  152. ralphm I'm wondering if "IETF" is an affiliation and if we are past the 15% point for it.
  153. dwd Heh. I think it's OK as long as nobody is representing it.
  154. dwd I was wondering if we could (and perhaps even should) count open source projects.
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  176. fippo ralphm: the ietf has no members ;-)
  177. ralphm fippo: nothing in our by laws talk about the need of actual membership
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  195. dwd We should direct anyone who still thinks XMPP is verbose and chatty to take a look at the STOX drafts - XMPP->SIP reads like an amplification attack.
  196. MattJ :)
  197. waqas XMPP isn't verbose? Hmm, but does it use JSON? Or binary?
  198. fippo hhhhh
  199. fippo mhhhhhh
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