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fippo
http://bloggeek.me/xmpp-federation-url-emails/#comment-4739 -- finally someone who understands
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fippo
lance: I am wondering how to comment on http://bloggeek.me/andyet-webrtc-interview/
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fippo
other than "^5"
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Dave Cridland
ralphm, You've not heard from FOSDEM early, by any chance, have you?
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fippo
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/thirteenth-council/ <-- linked from http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/ but doesn't seem to lead anywhere. can a wp-admin look into that please?
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Dave Cridland
We should probably do a post about new Strophe.js, too, given its importance in the XMPP world.
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fippo
right.
- fippo looks into convincing the xwiki people to drop their strange non-jingle stuff in favor of one of the jingle implementations
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fippo
is there any likely correlation between "We embedded an XMPP Server in XWiki (vysper)"
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fippo
and "Difficulties with ordering of signaling messages"
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Dave Cridland
Gosh. I didn't know anyone had deployed vysper.
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fippo
that is what I thought, too
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fippo
I have actually seen a student from the TU dresden do an evaluation of vysper for his master thesis
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fippo
emcho: are your slides available for public download, too?
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fippo
i.e. somewhere you can reference them in a g+ post :-)
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ralphm
dwd: sadly, no
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dwd
ralphm, We'll find out by Monday, won't we?
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ralphm
I sure hope so, yes
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ralphm
Usually, they are right on schedule.
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dwd
fippo, FWIW, I don't think you can abstain, as such, since on Council you can generally only veto. So an abstain is the same as not exercising your veto.
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dwd
fippo, You could abstain from an actual vote, though I can't think of one the Council does aside from voting in its Chair.
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emcho
да живее пощата :)
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Simon
I agree completely.
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emcho
argh!
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emcho
sorry!
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dwd
Bulgarian: "Live mail">
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emcho
"Viva the postal service"
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fippo
dwd: great, then i am +1 on the stuff i wrote :-)
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emcho
just expressing my frustration in the wrong window :)
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dwd
I suspect it's meant to be Russian, though in that case Google can't translate it properly. "Yes, livlier poschata", it suggests.
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dwd
fippo, No, you're not, you're merely not invoking your veto. You can't be "+1", as such, you can merely be "!-1".
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ralphm
dwd: but in Bulgarian, Google Translate says 'live mail'.
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dwd
ralphm, Maybe emcho is going to work for Microsoft?
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emcho
dwd, ralphm: it's Bulgarian, it means "Long live the postal service" and it was a wrongly directed expression of frustration at the French postal services :)
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emcho
sorry about that :)
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dwd
emcho, Complaining to the French postal service in Bulgarian isn't going to be very effective.
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ralphm
emcho: no, please complain about inefficient delivery mechanisms
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dwd
Hey, postal services are in my good books - my wife's Christmas present arrived from Texas today.
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emcho
dwd: for which christmas was that? :)
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fippo
dwd: I'll just stay with "I'd like to see this published" :-)
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ralphm
fippo: the traditional way to say that is 'no objections'
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dwd
This one coming. I'd say what it is, but she has a habit of sneaking in here when I'm making a cuppa, and ends up reading whatever I've left on screen.
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fippo
emcho: the postal service should use an IMS architecture
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emcho
oh yeah! i hadn't thought of that way to further screw it up :)
- ralphm waves to dwd's wife
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dwd
ralphm, She's not here yet; still in work. For another half hour or so.
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ralphm
dwd: sure, but she will read it later
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Kev
dwd: No, Council votes on publishing new versions of Draft+ XEPs.
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Kev
And advancement.
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dwd
Oh, yes, indeed.
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Kev
(And must have a majority)
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dwd
Although it's still -1 to veto.
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Kev
Yes.
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dwd
I slouch corrected.
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Kev
But abstinence has relevance.
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dwd
Yes, it makes the heart grow fonder.
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ralphm
dwd: I imagine the consultation will go as follows. Board: "Peter, please accept this procedural XEP." Peter: "well, ok!"
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dwd
ralphm, Did you like my request to put it in the Inbox?
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ralphm
Well, looks fine.
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ralphm
I'm wondering if "IETF" is an affiliation and if we are past the 15% point for it.
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dwd
Heh. I think it's OK as long as nobody is representing it.
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dwd
I was wondering if we could (and perhaps even should) count open source projects.
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fippo
ralphm: the ietf has no members ;-)
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ralphm
fippo: nothing in our by laws talk about the need of actual membership
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dwd
We should direct anyone who still thinks XMPP is verbose and chatty to take a look at the STOX drafts - XMPP->SIP reads like an amplification attack.
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MattJ
:)
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waqas
XMPP isn't verbose? Hmm, but does it use JSON? Or binary?
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fippo
hhhhh
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fippo
mhhhhhh