XSF Discussion - 2013-12-16

mattj: https://github.com/ESTOS/meet :-)

I wonder how i ended up using prosody for everything

fippo: It must be contagious or something

Excellent. The STOX virtual interim is being held over Webex and a phone bridge.

Of course!

emcho, fippo - I'll bet you're so happy about that one. :-)

The future are here.

haha :)

dwd: we'll let it slide this time because we don't have slide sharing yet

fippo is working on that though so it probably wouldn't be long

oh i heard my slidesharing is useless because it cant do animations! :-)

Heh

All those IETF slides with animations

lool :)

fippo: you didn't hear that from me

no ;-)

fippo: (nor from anyone at the IETF for all I know)

Stream it over video. Then you get animations aplenty.

kev: browsers don't do screensharing

or are removing the support they currently have for that

Chrome does

They're removing support?

yeah

too insecure

in what way?

they'll only allow it for apps you get from the chrome store

Interesting

in the way that it will be very risky to allow any web page with a cert to both load pages and see them ...

Ha

but jitsi will soon be able to participate in these call and in there you can share all you want ;)

s/call/calls

Hey emcho

hey Zash

You happen to know anything about Jitsi (on Win7) failing TLS if an EDH cipher is selected?

Zash: most likely a problem with the way the JVM handles this. probably fixeable

Didn't see anything that looked related in the log files I found

yup. it's most likely the jvm

Zash, emcho: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/ssl/ssl_faq.html#javadh

right

Sigh

as i said though, it's most likely fixeable

switching to bouncycastle is a first thing that comes to mind

Bouncycastle is nice, but there's no FIPS yet, is there?

No, but they want to.

And/or intend to. I forget which.

The tricky bit with FIPS is getting someone to pay for it though.

Yes. BC have had a donation drive recently.

Looks like they've already raised $3k out of the $400k they want...

It's the kind of thing you can't make a shiny video for and put it on a crowdfunding site

Though it would be fun to see the attempt :)

Just mention the NSA a bit and you'll probably do fine

instead we have invent-your-own-chat-system / invent-your-own-crypto applications like Telegram.

Nothing wrong with double-ROT-13, is there?

dwd: you kidding? would never use anything below quad-ROT-22 !!!

:D

did we get any news from FOSDEM sunday?

I had to double-check I'd hit the right site.

LOL

London scares me

bear: yusuke didn't book a flight under the assumption that there is a summit so nothing bad happened :-)

heck, I don't know why we couldn't have two events

bear, We possibly could if we ensure they're distinct enough.

bear, I was wondering about doing pure interop at one. Maybe a specific targetted "build a solution" discussion - I vaguely thought in terms of building an actual tool for remote participation.

if our fosdem news is good, and we can find a venue, I would suggest the "summit" be at fosdem and the london event be an interop for xmpp web

I was noodling on the same thought

I'd actually suggest the other way around, possibly. We could potentially hook in a fair number of IETFers in London.

ralphm, Ping?

I was only suggesting fosdem because it's a large community and the summit is (IMO) all about community

I'm going to suggest that we go forward knowing that we will do two events and then start planning for both

s/going to/thinking about/ (insert other wiggle words as needed)

I think we can't do much planning until we know if we have a stand of any form.

for fosdem - agree (guess i'm being an optimist)

https://fosdem.org/2014/stands/ -- There's still a few blanks there.

A few

Have we decided where we are going? I need to figure out visas and stuff ASAP.

waqas, I'm not sure we can decide on Brussels without hearing from FOSDEM.

MattJ has been trying to get me into the UK

waqas, Is his suitcase big enough?

He took it with him. It /was/ big enough.

Oh! I'd actually forgotten about the Suitcase Of Doom™.

I'm still hoping for the "after" pictures of the Suitcase of Doom

And to imagine it was fully packed. Seriously, both of us combined were having a hard time moving his luggage around, I'm not sure how he managed it alone last time :)

And I could fit everything I brought in my computer bag...

Oh, there is a picture floating around somewhere, with an Apple sticker added to the suitcase :)

I still haven't heard back from FOSDEM. I'm pinging them.

Thanks, ralphm.

"Sorry for the delay, expect a mail tonight or tomorrow."

About that, little birdie told me to get our Jingle on.

there is a message hidden there, isnt it?

Let's say they don't want us to announce it before sending out 80 e-mails today or tomorrow.

xmmp.org is not registered...

I've actually mis-typed that a few times :)