emchoswitching to bouncycastle is a first thing that comes to mind
dwdBouncycastle is nice, but there's no FIPS yet, is there?
KevNo, but they want to.
KevAnd/or intend to. I forget which.
dwdThe tricky bit with FIPS is getting someone to pay for it though.
KevYes. BC have had a donation drive recently.
KevLooks like they've already raised $3k out of the $400k they want...
MattJIt's the kind of thing you can't make a shiny video for and put it on a crowdfunding site
MattJThough it would be fun to see the attempt :)
ZashJust mention the NSA a bit and you'll probably do fine
Simoninstead we have invent-your-own-chat-system / invent-your-own-crypto applications like Telegram.
dwdNothing wrong with double-ROT-13, is there?
emchodwd: you kidding? would never use anything below quad-ROT-22 !!!
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beardid we get any news from FOSDEM sunday?
fippopokes ralphm
dwdlooks at the FOSDEM site, and is surprised to see it looks pretty.
dwdI had to double-check I'd hit the right site.
bearLOL
ZashLondon scares me
fippobear: yusuke didn't book a flight under the assumption that there is a summit so nothing bad happened :-)
bearheck, I don't know why we couldn't have two events
dwdbear, We possibly could if we ensure they're distinct enough.
bearnods
dwdbear, I was wondering about doing pure interop at one. Maybe a specific targetted "build a solution" discussion - I vaguely thought in terms of building an actual tool for remote participation.
bearif our fosdem news is good, and we can find a venue, I would suggest the "summit" be at fosdem and the london event be an interop for xmpp web
bearI was noodling on the same thought
dwdI'd actually suggest the other way around, possibly. We could potentially hook in a fair number of IETFers in London.
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dwdralphm, Ping?
bearI was only suggesting fosdem because it's a large community and the summit is (IMO) all about community
bearI'm going to suggest that we go forward knowing that we will do two events and then start planning for both
bears/going to/thinking about/ (insert other wiggle words as needed)
dwdI think we can't do much planning until we know if we have a stand of any form.
bearfor fosdem - agree (guess i'm being an optimist)
dwdhttps://fosdem.org/2014/stands/ -- There's still a few blanks there.
ZashA few
bearchuckles
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waqasHave we decided where we are going? I need to figure out visas and stuff ASAP.
dwdwaqas, I'm not sure we can decide on Brussels without hearing from FOSDEM.
waqasMattJ has been trying to get me into the UK
dwdwaqas, Is his suitcase big enough?
waqasHe took it with him. It /was/ big enough.
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dwdOh! I'd actually forgotten about the Suitcase Of Doom™.
bearI'm still hoping for the "after" pictures of the Suitcase of Doom
waqasAnd to imagine it was fully packed. Seriously, both of us combined were having a hard time moving his luggage around, I'm not sure how he managed it alone last time :)
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ZashAnd I could fit everything I brought in my computer bag...
waqasOh, there is a picture floating around somewhere, with an Apple sticker added to the suitcase :)
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ralphmI still haven't heard back from FOSDEM. I'm pinging them.
intosiThanks, ralphm.
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ralphm"Sorry for the delay, expect a mail tonight or tomorrow."
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ralphmAbout that, little birdie told me to get our Jingle on.
fippothere is a message hidden there, isnt it?
ralphmLet's say they don't want us to announce it before sending out 80 e-mails today or tomorrow.
XSF Discussion - 2013-12-16