Kev: my holiday is over now. I'm going to pick things up now.
Kev
Fab.
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dwd
Yes.
ralphmsummons Florian
dwdinscribes pentagram on the floor, starts chanting something about XEP-0045§7.8
ralphm
dwd: by the way, I did get confirmation about access to the gear from Jérôme
dwd
Oh, good news.
ralphm
i.e. he will be in on Friday
ralphm
I also want to order bean bags
ralphm
But, how many, what size and what print?
dwd
Remind me about prices?
ralphm
I was thinking 3 of them. Possibly 140x180, or 140x140.
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admin
oh hai giiis
dwd
admin, Good nickname, there.
admin
/nickname FloJo
admin
or not :)
dwd
admin, So, can you do the hotel and dinner (and the Message Bus)?
ralphm
€170 or €130 (ex 21% VAT) full color
admin
I can definitely try
admin
however, I won't be attending the summit, but will come on Friday evening
admin
for the Beer Event
ralphm
what!
ralphm
This is unacceptable.
admin
I'll be there for the Realtime Lounge
admin
also … the person getting the Hotel better get a great deal
admin
as I'm staying there too
admin
oh … wait ...
ralphm
admin: agreed. Make it so, #1.
admin
who's attending anyways
admin
checked the Wiki last night … only 3 people
ralphm
Hmm, let me edit that page.
ralphm
We'll try to fix an announcement today, so it should fill up.
dwd
admin, We can probably assume the same hotel, but see what kind of deals you can get.
admin
yeah
admin
I'll hustle some stuff
admin
however, if someone would be able to help with dinner sponsors
admin
that would be great
dwd
admin, Yeah, I appreciate you don't have the time for that these days.
admin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isHm3gnHjto
Kev
I anticipate there'll probably be an Isode contingent coming, but can't finalise anything until there's definitely a summit to attend.
admin
if only a certain company would be able to launch in the country of beer … it would be a different story
admin
is Cisco happening ?
dwd
admin, They're launched in the UK, aren't they?
admin
they are
dwd
Or did you mean some other country of beer?
admin
hahhaha, funny
ralphm
Kev: dwd and I just decided we will have the summit on the given dates and will make it happen.
Kev
OK, thanks. Could an announcement go out then, please, with whatever's set at this stage (just the date and city, I guess).
Kev
Hopefully we'll get a deal on the hotel, and booking that later will be less of a problem, but people will need to get travel sorted.
dwd
Right, I'll send something to the usual lists now, encouraging people to sign up if they want in on the hotel block deal.
dwd
admin, I'm assuming if we have commitments to N rooms we can get a better deal?
dwd
Crap. WHat number summit is this?
dwd
15.
admin
yeah, more rooms = cheaper rooms
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ralphm
dwd: I updated the Summit_15 and FOSDEM_2014 wiki pages.
dwd
Kev, Given the lack of Peter, would you be up for chairing the Summit itself?
ralphm
dwd: let's specifically request people to edit the wiki or respond to the request for participation on the summit list
dwd
If you have not done so, please "sign up" on http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_15 if you're coming, and we'll ensure that there's a hotel room available for you. We need to know numbers ASAP, partly to ensure we have sufficient space in the hotel, and partly to ensure we get the best deal we possibly can.
When you sign up, if you need a hotel room, please put "(H)" after your name if you want a room.
dwd
Actually, let me paste the lot.
dwd
Folks,
In case you've not seen the previous discussions:
We're holding the next XMPP Summit - the 15th - at the end of this month. As usual, sorting out hotels and things is a last minute rush because of Christmas - sorry!
If you have not done so, please "sign up" on http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_15 if you're coming, and we'll ensure that there's a hotel room available for you. We need to know numbers ASAP, partly to ensure we have sufficient space in the hotel, and partly to ensure we get the best deal we possibly can.
When you sign up, if you need a hotel room, please put "(H)" after your name if you want a room.
We're likely to end up back in the Aloft in Brussels if we can get a sufficiently good deal.
Dave.
dwd
Subject line is: XMPP Summit XV - Brussels, 2014/01/30 - 2014/01/31
ralphm
We should also mention FOSDEM itself
ralphm
because we need demos and things and people
ralphm
(and people probably want a room to cover those dates as well)
ralphm
Looking good otherwise.
intosi
Magick, my name is already on the list of participants.
ralphm
:-D
ralphm
You have no choice.
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intosi
Excellent.
ralphm
neither does dwd
kevin.
guys
kevin.
hows the idea of creating a facebook app for jabber? i'm sure we will get million users from fb.
ralphm
dwd: what's that (H)?
ralphm
hotel?
kevin.
with some modifications ofcourse
dwd
( H )
ralphm
ah
dwd
Damn you, auto-smilie.
Kev
dwd: I'm a poor substitute for Peter, but I can try this, yes. Assuming you're meaning just the bit while we're there, and not much organisation in the run-up.
dwd
Kev, It'd be nice to assemble an agenda of sorts.
Kev
OK. Let me TODO myself.
ralphm
Otherwise, I'll take it
Kev
(I note that we usually end up mostly sorting out an agenda once we're there)
dwd
Kev, But we'll sort out venue, etc.
dwd
Kev, Yes. But having high-level goals at least would be nice.
Kev
Indeed.
Kev
It's in my todo inbox. I'll file it appropriately later.
Kev
Currently trying to work out how many of Isode will be taking over the place.
Kev
I expect three or four, but need to confirm.
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dwd
kevin., Sorry, nobody replied to you - you probably want to discuss that somewhere else. This chatroom is specifically for the XMPP Standards Foundation work, which isn't really directed to any particular bit of software.
dwd
Kev, I assume Kurt won't miss the beer^Wdiscussion.
intosi
I assumed Kev would discuss this in a different room ;)
dwd
Remembered to hit send.
dwd
Oh. That's caused a bit of a surge in attendees.
ralphm
:-D
Kev
Thanks for sorting this out chaps, things were getting a bit desperate with timing.
ralphm
only minor things to be taken care of now
Kev
Well, yes, I realise everything is still to be done.
ralphm
like hotel, summit venue, stuff like that
Kev
But just the announcement that there will definitely be one, and the days, means people can book travel.
ralphm
:-D
ralphm
I don't know why we didn't do that before xmas
ralphm
I fixed the date months ago, and then *some people* started rambling about IETF London.
Kev
At which I hope we'll still sort something out :)
Kev
And by 'we' I mean 'someone else'.
Kev
Even if it's just coinciding with another XMPP London thing.
ralphm
Yeah, I think that'd be good.
Kev
London is still somewhat inconvenient for me, but much less so than leaving the island :)
dwd
Wales is an island, too, isn't it? We have to cross the water to England, after all.
Kev
I have no response to that gets by my sarcasm filter.
Kev
Which tells you all you need to know.
Kev
s/that/that that/
dwd
I have no response to that that that that that that OVERFLOW ERROR
intosi
There was no g flag, dwd.
dwd
intosi, That that that?
ralphm
Hmm, since there's still some time, I think I am going to order a Mobile Vikings Sim.
intosi
How much are they?
dwd
ralphm, I can't decide whether to go for that (meaning I need to unlock a device, with associate cost), or just spent €20 or so in roaming fees.
ralphm
dwd: for my tablet
dwd
Oh, or I could buy a new unlocked phone. That'd please my wife no end.
ralphm
intosi: https://mobilevikings.com/bel/
jabberjocke
Good to see the summit XV defined I'lle try to add an extra day for the summit any more than me and steffen on the agenda :)
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jabberjocke
would google summer of code be a good topic?
intosi
ralphm: do you have a shipping address in Belgium? Didn't know that.
ralphm
intosi: I think they ship cross border
dwd
Last FOSDEM or two, they shipped to hotels.
intosi
"""We only ship our SIM cards within Belgium."""
dwd
admin, Didn't you have a contact or $N at Mobile Vikings? Could you sort us out SIMs?
PostgreSQL 9.2.6 on x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, compiled by gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3, 64-bit
dwd
Zash, Really? Weird.
admin
so sadly not an option :/
ralphm
admin: I thought you were the admin. By bad.
Zash
dwd: How else would we store arbitrary data that we don't know the format of beforehand?
ralphm
My bad, even.
dwd
Zash, ACAP. We already had this discussion. :-)
Kev
dwd: Not as weird as my tendency to boost::serialize objects, and store those as strings in sqlite :)
dwd
Kev, Do you then store the sqlite databases as binary attributes in X.500?
ralphm
admin: in any other case, you will fail. Note that the very example has a list of objects. So there could be multiples.
admin
there's only 1 amount in there
admin
at least in these examples
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intosi
So again, if you can't be bothered to normalise to proper SQL tables, can't upgrade to a version with JSON support, and can't figure it out in the language you're feeding this into, try the regexp_replace function.
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admin
intosi: but that would require me having paid attention during my uni years when people were talking about regex :/
intosi
Now is as good a time to learn how to use them as any :)
dwd
admin, s/when.*$//
intosi
dwd: :)
ralphm
admin: or let an intern do it for you
admin
hahaha
dwd
ralphm, Wait, he's *not* the intern?
ralphm
admin: regarding Mobile Vikings not being cool, any recommendations on alternatives?
ralphm
dwd: he's the admin
ralphm
dwd: maybe the PFY
intosi
PFY without the pimples?
ralphm
I haven't seen him in a while
intosi
Fair enough
admin
yeah, so this doesn't work either :/
admin
regexp_replace(data, '"amount":"\d{1,3}"'),
dwd
admin, Every time you knock €5 off the hotel price we'll help you a bit more.
admin
hahaha
admin
I guess the question is … how often do you need to help … will I have to pay you to attend the summit? :p
intosi
admin: that would be grand.
intosi
As a bonus, we might even add your name to the list of sponsors.
admin
substring(fare_adjustments from '(?:"amount": ")([\d\.]*)'),
admin
#boom
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MattJ
I don't think I can make FOSDEM this year :/
ralphm
MattJ: unacceptable
waqas
MattJ was too depressed at the thought of me not being there this year
ralphm
but I'll be there!
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ralphm
If anyone else is ordering Mobile Viking sims, be sure to refer the ones that went before you (wink, wink, nudge, nudge). intosi and I will be happy to extend our dedicated e-mail addresses used for that.
Kev
I don't think Belgium is one of the countries I can roam to for free, but I should check. Would be nice to have data on my own network.
intosi
Now I need a SIM wallet.
ralphm
intosi: I always use some tape and the original card around the sim (which together are really a full-size sim)
Zash
Just get more phones
intosi
I have a small card for my UK SIM, fits nicely in my Oyster card fold.
ralphm
I use my RFID Safe for my Clipper Card
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dwd
Kev, It's not on Three's Feel At Home deal.
Kev
Shame.
dwd
Kev, It is, though, on their Europass thing.
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dwd
stpeter, Do you have good contacts with the Meetecho guys?
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fippo
does someone recall the room rate we got last year?
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dwd
Nacht 30 & 31 januari 2013
160 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
170 € per dubbele kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
Nacht 01 & 02 februari 2013
75 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
85 € per dubbele kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
fippo
perfect, thanks.
dwd
That was based around 10 single rooms, by the looks of things.