ralphmKev: my holiday is over now. I'm going to pick things up now.
dwdinscribes pentagram on the floor, starts chanting something about XEP-0045§7.8
ralphmdwd: by the way, I did get confirmation about access to the gear from Jérôme
dwdOh, good news.
ralphmi.e. he will be in on Friday
ralphmI also want to order bean bags
ralphmBut, how many, what size and what print?
dwdRemind me about prices?
ralphmI was thinking 3 of them. Possibly 140x180, or 140x140.
adminoh hai giiis
dwdadmin, Good nickname, there.
adminor not :)
dwdadmin, So, can you do the hotel and dinner (and the Message Bus)?
ralphm€170 or €130 (ex 21% VAT) full color
adminI can definitely try
adminhowever, I won't be attending the summit, but will come on Friday evening
adminfor the Beer Event
ralphmThis is unacceptable.
adminI'll be there for the Realtime Lounge
adminalso … the person getting the Hotel better get a great deal
adminas I'm staying there too
adminoh … wait ...
ralphmadmin: agreed. Make it so, #1.
adminwho's attending anyways
adminchecked the Wiki last night … only 3 people
ralphmHmm, let me edit that page.
ralphmWe'll try to fix an announcement today, so it should fill up.
dwdadmin, We can probably assume the same hotel, but see what kind of deals you can get.
adminI'll hustle some stuff
adminhowever, if someone would be able to help with dinner sponsors
adminthat would be great
dwdadmin, Yeah, I appreciate you don't have the time for that these days.
KevI anticipate there'll probably be an Isode contingent coming, but can't finalise anything until there's definitely a summit to attend.
adminif only a certain company would be able to launch in the country of beer … it would be a different story
adminis Cisco happening ?
dwdadmin, They're launched in the UK, aren't they?
dwdOr did you mean some other country of beer?
ralphmKev: dwd and I just decided we will have the summit on the given dates and will make it happen.
KevOK, thanks. Could an announcement go out then, please, with whatever's set at this stage (just the date and city, I guess).
KevHopefully we'll get a deal on the hotel, and booking that later will be less of a problem, but people will need to get travel sorted.
dwdRight, I'll send something to the usual lists now, encouraging people to sign up if they want in on the hotel block deal.
dwdadmin, I'm assuming if we have commitments to N rooms we can get a better deal?
dwdCrap. WHat number summit is this?
adminyeah, more rooms = cheaper rooms
ralphmdwd: I updated the Summit_15 and FOSDEM_2014 wiki pages.
dwdKev, Given the lack of Peter, would you be up for chairing the Summit itself?
ralphmdwd: let's specifically request people to edit the wiki or respond to the request for participation on the summit list
dwdIf you have not done so, please "sign up" on http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_15 if you're coming, and we'll ensure that there's a hotel room available for you. We need to know numbers ASAP, partly to ensure we have sufficient space in the hotel, and partly to ensure we get the best deal we possibly can.
When you sign up, if you need a hotel room, please put "(H)" after your name if you want a room.
dwdActually, let me paste the lot.
In case you've not seen the previous discussions:
We're holding the next XMPP Summit - the 15th - at the end of this month. As usual, sorting out hotels and things is a last minute rush because of Christmas - sorry!
If you have not done so, please "sign up" on http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_15 if you're coming, and we'll ensure that there's a hotel room available for you. We need to know numbers ASAP, partly to ensure we have sufficient space in the hotel, and partly to ensure we get the best deal we possibly can.
When you sign up, if you need a hotel room, please put "(H)" after your name if you want a room.
We're likely to end up back in the Aloft in Brussels if we can get a sufficiently good deal.
dwdSubject line is: XMPP Summit XV - Brussels, 2014/01/30 - 2014/01/31
ralphmWe should also mention FOSDEM itself
ralphmbecause we need demos and things and people
ralphm(and people probably want a room to cover those dates as well)
ralphmLooking good otherwise.
intosiMagick, my name is already on the list of participants.
ralphmYou have no choice.
ralphmneither does dwd
kevin.hows the idea of creating a facebook app for jabber? i'm sure we will get million users from fb.
ralphmdwd: what's that (H)?
kevin.with some modifications ofcourse
dwd( H )
dwdDamn you, auto-smilie.
Kevdwd: I'm a poor substitute for Peter, but I can try this, yes. Assuming you're meaning just the bit while we're there, and not much organisation in the run-up.
dwdKev, It'd be nice to assemble an agenda of sorts.
KevOK. Let me TODO myself.
ralphmOtherwise, I'll take it
Kev(I note that we usually end up mostly sorting out an agenda once we're there)
dwdKev, But we'll sort out venue, etc.
dwdKev, Yes. But having high-level goals at least would be nice.
KevIt's in my todo inbox. I'll file it appropriately later.
KevCurrently trying to work out how many of Isode will be taking over the place.
KevI expect three or four, but need to confirm.
dwdkevin., Sorry, nobody replied to you - you probably want to discuss that somewhere else. This chatroom is specifically for the XMPP Standards Foundation work, which isn't really directed to any particular bit of software.
dwdKev, I assume Kurt won't miss the beer^Wdiscussion.
intosiI assumed Kev would discuss this in a different room ;)
dwdRemembered to hit send.
dwdOh. That's caused a bit of a surge in attendees.
KevThanks for sorting this out chaps, things were getting a bit desperate with timing.
ralphmonly minor things to be taken care of now
KevWell, yes, I realise everything is still to be done.
ralphmlike hotel, summit venue, stuff like that
KevBut just the announcement that there will definitely be one, and the days, means people can book travel.
ralphmI don't know why we didn't do that before xmas
ralphmI fixed the date months ago, and then *some people* started rambling about IETF London.
KevAt which I hope we'll still sort something out :)
KevAnd by 'we' I mean 'someone else'.
KevEven if it's just coinciding with another XMPP London thing.
ralphmYeah, I think that'd be good.
KevLondon is still somewhat inconvenient for me, but much less so than leaving the island :)
dwdWales is an island, too, isn't it? We have to cross the water to England, after all.
KevI have no response to that gets by my sarcasm filter.
KevWhich tells you all you need to know.
dwdI have no response to that that that that that that OVERFLOW ERROR
intosiThere was no g flag, dwd.
dwdintosi, That that that?
ralphmHmm, since there's still some time, I think I am going to order a Mobile Vikings Sim.
intosiHow much are they?
dwdralphm, I can't decide whether to go for that (meaning I need to unlock a device, with associate cost), or just spent €20 or so in roaming fees.
ralphmdwd: for my tablet
dwdOh, or I could buy a new unlocked phone. That'd please my wife no end.
jabberjockeGood to see the summit XV defined I'lle try to add an extra day for the summit any more than me and steffen on the agenda :)
jabberjockewould google summer of code be a good topic?
intosiralphm: do you have a shipping address in Belgium? Didn't know that.
ralphmintosi: I think they ship cross border
dwdLast FOSDEM or two, they shipped to hotels.
intosi"""We only ship our SIM cards within Belgium."""
dwdadmin, Didn't you have a contact or $N at Mobile Vikings? Could you sort us out SIMs?
Zashdwd: That's how Prosody stores stuff in SQL ...
adminPostgreSQL 9.2.6 on x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, compiled by gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3, 64-bit
dwdZash, Really? Weird.
adminso sadly not an option :/
ralphmadmin: I thought you were the admin. By bad.
Zashdwd: How else would we store arbitrary data that we don't know the format of beforehand?
ralphmMy bad, even.
dwdZash, ACAP. We already had this discussion. :-)
Kevdwd: Not as weird as my tendency to boost::serialize objects, and store those as strings in sqlite :)
dwdKev, Do you then store the sqlite databases as binary attributes in X.500?
ralphmadmin: in any other case, you will fail. Note that the very example has a list of objects. So there could be multiples.
adminthere's only 1 amount in there
adminat least in these examples
intosiSo again, if you can't be bothered to normalise to proper SQL tables, can't upgrade to a version with JSON support, and can't figure it out in the language you're feeding this into, try the regexp_replace function.
adminintosi: but that would require me having paid attention during my uni years when people were talking about regex :/
intosiNow is as good a time to learn how to use them as any :)
ralphmadmin: or let an intern do it for you
dwdralphm, Wait, he's *not* the intern?
ralphmadmin: regarding Mobile Vikings not being cool, any recommendations on alternatives?
ralphmdwd: he's the admin
ralphmdwd: maybe the PFY
intosiPFY without the pimples?
ralphmI haven't seen him in a while
adminyeah, so this doesn't work either :/
dwdadmin, Every time you knock €5 off the hotel price we'll help you a bit more.
adminI guess the question is … how often do you need to help … will I have to pay you to attend the summit? :p
intosiadmin: that would be grand.
intosiAs a bonus, we might even add your name to the list of sponsors.
adminsubstring(fare_adjustments from '(?:"amount": ")([\d\.]*)'),
MattJI don't think I can make FOSDEM this year :/
waqasMattJ was too depressed at the thought of me not being there this year
ralphmbut I'll be there!
ralphmIf anyone else is ordering Mobile Viking sims, be sure to refer the ones that went before you (wink, wink, nudge, nudge). intosi and I will be happy to extend our dedicated e-mail addresses used for that.
KevI don't think Belgium is one of the countries I can roam to for free, but I should check. Would be nice to have data on my own network.
intosiNow I need a SIM wallet.
ralphmintosi: I always use some tape and the original card around the sim (which together are really a full-size sim)
ZashJust get more phones
intosiI have a small card for my UK SIM, fits nicely in my Oyster card fold.
ralphmI use my RFID Safe for my Clipper Card
dwdKev, It's not on Three's Feel At Home deal.
dwdKev, It is, though, on their Europass thing.
dwdstpeter, Do you have good contacts with the Meetecho guys?
fippodoes someone recall the room rate we got last year?
dwdNacht 30 & 31 januari 2013
160 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
170 € per dubbele kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
Nacht 01 & 02 februari 2013
75 € per single kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
85 € per dubbele kamer per nacht, inclusief ontbijt en taksen
dwdThat was based around 10 single rooms, by the looks of things.