XSF Discussion - 2014-01-18

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  52. dwd

    It's depressing that ./configure now takes significantly longer than compiling, on almost any project.

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  55. fippo

    dwd: https://www.mobilespan.com/content/chrome-is-the-new-c-runtime -- they must have been listening to you

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  58. fippo

    even though I suspect the author think that "libjingle" is the "xmpp client"

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  60. Steffen Larsen

    fippo: saw the article. really cool

  61. Steffen Larsen

    fippo: are they using XEP-0048 for synching the bookmarks? anyone know that?

  62. Kev

    fippo: I abuse Swift's build system and helper classes when I do other stuff.

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  92. ralphm

    fippo: I was just going to paste that article.

  93. ralphm

    fippo: given what they say the XMPP bits are used for, I don't think he means libjingle at all

  94. ralphm

    dwd: I've always wondered why 95% of the things done by autoconf and accomplices couldn't be stored in a registry

  95. fippo

    ralphm: hopefully... libjingle ceased to exist a couple of months ago ;-)

  96. ralphm

    This registry could be filled u[pn install time of libs and other pkgs

  97. ralphm

    fippo: what's the core of webrtc support in chrome then?

  98. fippo

    it's called "webrtc". they even deleted all the old stuff to make svn blame harder ;-)

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  100. ralphm

    fippo: you should do a reconstructed git repo

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  102. fippo

    ralphm: that would only be useful if google stopped doing roll-over commits from their internal repo

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  105. ralphm

    That's a thing people do with svn

  106. ralphm

    Despite Subversion having gained some improvements in recent time, I think people have just given up and switched to a dvcs

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  112. fippo

    mh... http://www.ucstrategies.com/unified-communications-expert-views/is-federation-exposing-your-uc-servers-to-denial-of-service-attacks.aspx

  113. fippo

    i think I can call myself an xmpp expert and disagree with the implicit statement that DoS is a problem (at xmpp level)

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  116. waqas

    There /is/ an argument to be made there though, many parts of many XMPP servers aren't hardened

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  118. waqas

    But yeah, I agree with you

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  121. fippo

    arr, i just commented that i am not convinced. let's see if anyone tries to argue with me ;-)

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  126. ralphm

    fippo: not arguing but ask Kev en intosi about recent MUC incidents over at jabber.org

  127. ralphm

    it might not be inherent to the protocol, but there are issues

  128. fippo

    ralphm: jabber.org has to run open federation

  129. fippo

    for businesses I don't think that is true.

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  132. ralphm

    good point

  133. ralphm

    but I suppose that, increasingly, business will want to be part of the open federation

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  135. fippo

    yeah. some persons, whereas others will remain invisible to the outside.

  136. fippo

    but that's just a matter of modelling the internal structures appropriately ;-)

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