XSF Discussion - 2014-01-18

It's depressing that ./configure now takes significantly longer than compiling, on almost any project.

+1

dwd: https://www.mobilespan.com/content/chrome-is-the-new-c-runtime -- they must have been listening to you

even though I suspect the author think that "libjingle" is the "xmpp client"

fippo: saw the article. really cool

fippo: are they using XEP-0048 for synching the bookmarks? anyone know that?

fippo: I abuse Swift's build system and helper classes when I do other stuff.

fippo: I was just going to paste that article.

fippo: given what they say the XMPP bits are used for, I don't think he means libjingle at all

dwd: I've always wondered why 95% of the things done by autoconf and accomplices couldn't be stored in a registry

ralphm: hopefully... libjingle ceased to exist a couple of months ago ;-)

This registry could be filled u[pn install time of libs and other pkgs

fippo: what's the core of webrtc support in chrome then?

it's called "webrtc". they even deleted all the old stuff to make svn blame harder ;-)

fippo: you should do a reconstructed git repo

ralphm: that would only be useful if google stopped doing roll-over commits from their internal repo

heh

That's a thing people do with svn

Despite Subversion having gained some improvements in recent time, I think people have just given up and switched to a dvcs

mh... http://www.ucstrategies.com/unified-communications-expert-views/is-federation-exposing-your-uc-servers-to-denial-of-service-attacks.aspx

i think I can call myself an xmpp expert and disagree with the implicit statement that DoS is a problem (at xmpp level)

There /is/ an argument to be made there though, many parts of many XMPP servers aren't hardened

sure.

But yeah, I agree with you

arr, i just commented that i am not convinced. let's see if anyone tries to argue with me ;-)

fippo: not arguing but ask Kev en intosi about recent MUC incidents over at jabber.org

it might not be inherent to the protocol, but there are issues

ralphm: jabber.org has to run open federation

for businesses I don't think that is true.

good point

but I suppose that, increasingly, business will want to be part of the open federation

yeah. some persons, whereas others will remain invisible to the outside.

but that's just a matter of modelling the internal structures appropriately ;-)