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bear
has anyone created a google summer of code profile yet? I'm filling in the org profile and they now require a backup admin
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Kev
I have not, but can easily do so.
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ralphm
Which client and server implementations do MAM in a reasonably fashion at the moment? (Knowing it is still experimental)
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Tobias
prosody & otalk?
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Tobias
maybe gajim too
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Tobias
and possibly yaxim
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dwd
I don't think either. I could be wrong, though.
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dwd
Ge0rG, ?
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Tobias
https://www.zash.se/mam.html should give an overview
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simon
we do lots of MAM on buddycloud but that's for messages from your channel - not <message> :)
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ralphm
https://twitter.com/gkatsev/statuses/431462993545945088
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simon
Ralphm: I agree. It's a hard problem and one of the best solutions is IMAP. Short of that, storing a timestamp of the last read message seems like a decent way to solve it (not the best, but a good start).
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ralphm
Except IMAP is horrible in a bunch of ways. I hope MAM will up the ante.
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dwd
IMAP is also quite nice in a number of ways. Very badly misunderstood, though.
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Kev
I'm not sure I've got to the really horrible bits yet.
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simon
The IMAP spec isn't descriptive enough on some cases. But it does what it promises across a range of servers and clients.
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ralphm
dwd: I wasn't necessarily talking about the protocol only. Many things are implementation flaws.
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dwd
Kev, Esoteric bits of the LIST command, some of the legacy gunk, most of the mailbox heirarchy stuff.
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simon
leaving the door to marking individual posts read in MAM would be nice.
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ralphm
Also, I'm wondering why you have to have multiple connections for IDLE to get updates on multiple folders
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Kev
Lance and I (and others) were discussing this in hallways (this being message sync in XMPP), and I think there's a chance one or other of us will finish my multi-client thing at some point with some suggestions of how to do it.
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Kev
ralphm: Well, yes, that bit is a little suboptimal.
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dwd
ralphm, That too. And why you need IDLE at all (you shouldn't, according to the spec)
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ralphm
I have had to tell our IMAP server to have a gazillion possible connections
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ralphm
'cause I have many folders
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dwd
ralphm, And some clients do two connections per folder (IDLE + read), plus another for appending.
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ralphm
yeah
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ralphm
Aaaand we're back talking about e-mail
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dwd
Mail's where all the trendy people are these days.
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simon
I heard it can do push
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dwd
Really - and mostly because it's an open federated network, so anyone can jump in with a new entrant.
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Kev
Synonyms superficial, shallow, materialistic
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Kev
Thanks wikipedia :)
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dwd
stpeter, Any chance you could mail that invoice template you had to board@?
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Ge0rG
ralphm: no MAM in yaxim yet
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ralphm
Ge0rG: ok, but that's Zash' page
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Ge0rG
ralphm: "reported issues" does not look like a promise of support to me ;)
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Ge0rG
ralphm: btw, what was the name of that ribs place again?
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ralphm
Aux Paves de Bruxelles
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Ge0rG
thanks very much
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ralphm
going to B again?
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Ge0rG
no, logging my expenses
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bear
hmm, I wonder if Kev has the answers we used from a prior gsoc app (I am searching my side now)
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Kev
Quite probably.
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Kev
Saying that, I can't find it.
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Kev
Maybe I usually rewrite it each year.
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bear
yea, I couldn't find it either