XSF Discussion - 2014-02-06

  1. Neustradamus_ has joined
  2. Neustradamus_ has joined
  3. Lance has left
  4. waqas has left
  5. Lance has joined
  6. waqas has joined
  7. stpeter has joined
  8. stpeter has left
  9. Jef has left
  10. Lance has left
  11. bear has left
  12. Lance has joined
  13. Lance has left
  14. bear has joined
  15. bear has anyone created a google summer of code profile yet? I'm filling in the org profile and they now require a backup admin
  16. bear sends the question to the members list
  17. emcho has joined
  18. emcho has left
  19. emcho has joined
  20. SouL has joined
  21. simon has joined
  22. bear has left
  23. waqas has left
  24. Kev I have not, but can easily do so.
  25. Tobias has joined
  26. emcho has left
  27. emcho has joined
  28. Tobias has left
  29. Lloyd has joined
  30. Zash has joined
  31. Steffen Larsen has joined
  32. Tobias has joined
  33. jabberjocke has joined
  34. SouL has left
  35. Tobias has joined
  36. Ash has joined
  37. Jef has joined
  38. Ash has joined
  39. jabberjocke has joined
  40. Neustradamus_ has joined
  41. winfried has joined
  42. Neustradamus_ has joined
  43. emcho has left
  44. emcho has joined
  45. Zash has left
  46. intosi has left
  47. Lloyd has left
  48. Lloyd has joined
  49. emcho has left
  50. emcho has joined
  51. Steffen Larsen has left
  52. Jef has left
  53. emcho has left
  54. emcho has joined
  55. emcho has left
  56. emcho has joined
  57. winfried has left
  58. emcho has left
  59. emcho has joined
  60. Neustradamus has left
  61. Neustradamus has joined
  62. emcho has left
  63. emcho has joined
  64. Jef has joined
  65. SouL has joined
  66. emcho has left
  67. emcho has joined
  68. ralphm Which client and server implementations do MAM in a reasonably fashion at the moment? (Knowing it is still experimental)
  69. Tobias prosody & otalk?
  70. Tobias maybe gajim too
  71. Tobias and possibly yaxim
  72. dwd I don't think either. I could be wrong, though.
  73. dwd Ge0rG, ?
  74. Tobias https://www.zash.se/mam.html should give an overview
  75. simon we do lots of MAM on buddycloud but that's for messages from your channel - not <message> :)
  76. ralphm https://twitter.com/gkatsev/statuses/431462993545945088
  77. simon Ralphm: I agree. It's a hard problem and one of the best solutions is IMAP. Short of that, storing a timestamp of the last read message seems like a decent way to solve it (not the best, but a good start).
  78. ralphm Except IMAP is horrible in a bunch of ways. I hope MAM will up the ante.
  79. dwd IMAP is also quite nice in a number of ways. Very badly misunderstood, though.
  80. Kev I'm not sure I've got to the really horrible bits yet.
  81. simon The IMAP spec isn't descriptive enough on some cases. But it does what it promises across a range of servers and clients.
  82. ralphm dwd: I wasn't necessarily talking about the protocol only. Many things are implementation flaws.
  83. dwd Kev, Esoteric bits of the LIST command, some of the legacy gunk, most of the mailbox heirarchy stuff.
  84. simon leaving the door to marking individual posts read in MAM would be nice.
  85. ralphm Also, I'm wondering why you have to have multiple connections for IDLE to get updates on multiple folders
  86. Kev Lance and I (and others) were discussing this in hallways (this being message sync in XMPP), and I think there's a chance one or other of us will finish my multi-client thing at some point with some suggestions of how to do it.
  87. Kev ralphm: Well, yes, that bit is a little suboptimal.
  88. dwd ralphm, That too. And why you need IDLE at all (you shouldn't, according to the spec)
  89. ralphm I have had to tell our IMAP server to have a gazillion possible connections
  90. ralphm 'cause I have many folders
  91. dwd ralphm, And some clients do two connections per folder (IDLE + read), plus another for appending.
  92. ralphm yeah
  93. ralphm Aaaand we're back talking about e-mail
  94. dwd Mail's where all the trendy people are these days.
  95. simon I heard it can do push
  96. dwd Really - and mostly because it's an open federated network, so anyone can jump in with a new entrant.
  97. Kev Synonyms superficial, shallow, materialistic
  98. Kev Thanks wikipedia :)
  99. Lance has joined
  100. Lloyd has left
  101. Tobias has joined
  102. stpeter has joined
  103. dwd stpeter, Any chance you could mail that invoice template you had to board@?
  104. Ge0rG ralphm: no MAM in yaxim yet
  105. ralphm Ge0rG: ok, but that's Zash' page
  106. bear has joined
  107. Ge0rG ralphm: "reported issues" does not look like a promise of support to me ;)
  108. Ge0rG ralphm: btw, what was the name of that ribs place again?
  109. ralphm Aux Paves de Bruxelles
  110. Ge0rG thanks very much
  111. ralphm going to B again?
  112. Ge0rG no, logging my expenses
  113. bear has left
  114. bear has joined
  115. Tobias has joined
  116. waqas has joined
  117. Tobias has left
  118. Tobias has joined
  119. bear hmm, I wonder if Kev has the answers we used from a prior gsoc app (I am searching my side now)
  120. Kev Quite probably.
  121. Kev Saying that, I can't find it.
  122. Kev Maybe I usually rewrite it each year.
  123. bear yea, I couldn't find it either
  124. Jef has left
  125. Jef has joined
  126. Jef has left
  127. Lance has left
  128. waqas has left
  129. Jef has joined
  130. waqas has joined
  131. Steffen Larsen has joined
  132. Steffen Larsen has left
  133. Jef has left
  134. Lance has left
  135. Tobias has left
  136. Tobias has joined
  137. Jef has joined
  138. SouL has left