XSF Discussion - 2014-02-06

has anyone created a google summer of code profile yet? I'm filling in the org profile and they now require a backup admin

I have not, but can easily do so.

Which client and server implementations do MAM in a reasonably fashion at the moment? (Knowing it is still experimental)

prosody & otalk?

maybe gajim too

and possibly yaxim

I don't think either. I could be wrong, though.

Ge0rG, ?

https://www.zash.se/mam.html should give an overview

we do lots of MAM on buddycloud but that's for messages from your channel - not <message> :)

https://twitter.com/gkatsev/statuses/431462993545945088

Ralphm: I agree. It's a hard problem and one of the best solutions is IMAP. Short of that, storing a timestamp of the last read message seems like a decent way to solve it (not the best, but a good start).

Except IMAP is horrible in a bunch of ways. I hope MAM will up the ante.

IMAP is also quite nice in a number of ways. Very badly misunderstood, though.

I'm not sure I've got to the really horrible bits yet.

The IMAP spec isn't descriptive enough on some cases. But it does what it promises across a range of servers and clients.

dwd: I wasn't necessarily talking about the protocol only. Many things are implementation flaws.

Kev, Esoteric bits of the LIST command, some of the legacy gunk, most of the mailbox heirarchy stuff.

leaving the door to marking individual posts read in MAM would be nice.

Also, I'm wondering why you have to have multiple connections for IDLE to get updates on multiple folders

Lance and I (and others) were discussing this in hallways (this being message sync in XMPP), and I think there's a chance one or other of us will finish my multi-client thing at some point with some suggestions of how to do it.

ralphm: Well, yes, that bit is a little suboptimal.

ralphm, That too. And why you need IDLE at all (you shouldn't, according to the spec)

I have had to tell our IMAP server to have a gazillion possible connections

'cause I have many folders

ralphm, And some clients do two connections per folder (IDLE + read), plus another for appending.

yeah

Aaaand we're back talking about e-mail

Mail's where all the trendy people are these days.

I heard it can do push

Really - and mostly because it's an open federated network, so anyone can jump in with a new entrant.

Synonyms superficial, shallow, materialistic

Thanks wikipedia :)

stpeter, Any chance you could mail that invoice template you had to board@?

ralphm: no MAM in yaxim yet

Ge0rG: ok, but that's Zash' page

ralphm: "reported issues" does not look like a promise of support to me ;)

ralphm: btw, what was the name of that ribs place again?

Aux Paves de Bruxelles

thanks very much

going to B again?

no, logging my expenses

hmm, I wonder if Kev has the answers we used from a prior gsoc app (I am searching my side now)

Quite probably.

Saying that, I can't find it.

Maybe I usually rewrite it each year.

yea, I couldn't find it either