Marandasomehow finds having a good XMPP client on iOS to be "utopistic".
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intosiMaranda: why?
Tobiaswhat's mainly missing is a PUSH standardization, and that's being worked on by Lance et al. IIRC
intosiTrue.
Ge0rGTobias: what is also missing is a privacy-convenience slider rule
Tobiaswith an image in the middle that fades between EFF and NSA, the more left the slide the more EFF shines through, the more right the slider and the NSA logo dominates?
intosiBut even without push, all clients I tested so far have show-stopping issues, such as not being able to connect to a site not offering SSLv3 (only TLSv1+), or crashing at random, or weird set-up, or only functioning as a foreground app.
Tobiasintosi, where have you seen that SSLv3 thing? on iOS?
intosiTobias: iOS 7 on my iPad, with Monal IM.
intosiOther clients can connect to that same server, only Monal refuses. It does want to connect to the same setup with SSLv3 enabled.
Tobiashmm..wonder if they are using apple's high security TLS implementation, instead of something interoperability proven like openssl :)
Tobiashttp://monal.im/ wonder how it does both, connect directly and stay open in the background
intosiHaven't tried that bit, so no idea if it does.
TobiasIIRC Kev mentioned one has to trick around to have even a short background time (i.e. 15 min) on iOS
Ge0rGthere is only one way to comment on this: goto fail;
Ge0rGiOS allows long-running background tasks for voip and some others
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MarandaTobias, Monal just doesn't, after the BG task execution hits the timeout it'll disconnect
Marandaat least that's how it behaved when I tried it.
TobiasMaranda, ahh..ok
Ge0rGiOS XMPP clients belong into one of two groups: usability-broken or security-broken
Tobiascan't they have both broken?
intosiTobias: I'm sure they can.
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simonGe0rG has a refreshing way of saying how things are. Nice to have you more involved with the XSF Ge0rG.
Ge0rGsimon: nobody is served by keeping the truth hidden...