XSF Discussion - 2015-02-20

g'day

Flow: I'm going to remove that comment you added, as it's not a 'join project' in any official sense.

*joint

And I don't want Carol et al. to think we don't understand GSoC when they judge our ideas page.

If anyone has the ability to work out what our number of students was in 2007, please do so. Also, if anyone has the ability to work out our success rates for 2005-2007, please do so. I haven't been able to work out these numbers myself.

Hmm, that was my year as a student :)

Kev, we had 6 students in 2007

Excellent, application updated, thans.

Kev: Well, if you think it's better to have the comment removed. My idea was to point out the importance of the project.

All orgs think all their projects are important :)

Kev, I think 100% passed that year, but I can't find anything official

except that all 6 students uploaded their code here: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2007-xmpp/downloads/list

Ah.

I think that answers it, then, ta.

I've just edited the page to add difficulties (how did I forget that this year?) - please review.

I'm glad I asked Carol to review it this year; I usually don't.

Looking at those OF tasks, I wonder if they aren't both too small to be worth a project on their own. Maybe merging them would make sense.

Kev, I had similar thoughts

191 in Prosody would take an afternoon, maybe two for someone who had never written Lua before

Maybe a few weeks for someone totally new to programming :)

MAM is pretty Noddy if you don't do search, and you already have a storage backend, too.

Anyone Buddycloudish around who wants to suggest better prereqs for that project?

Just done yet another pass over the page.

Hmm, maybe we could bundle the xep191 openfire task with xep198 acking-only

but mam alone should be enough for a gsoc project, even if openfire has already the archiviing backend

but it's up to dwd to decide

I don't do much openfire development any more

MAM's fairly straightforward on the server, other than efficient storage, and searching. Actually harder on the client.

But sure, adding sensible 198 support might be a reasonable pairing for 191.

daniel: do you think the axolotl conversations project could also produce a rough draft how to embed axolotl in XMPP?

someting like a pre-draft-spec-xep

I hope that axoltol is able to solve all the issue we have with otr in xmpp

until then i use openpg

I was wondering about an axalotl project for Swift, but it wasn't obvious to me that there was a C or C++ library.

BTW - please no-one edit the wiki page from now on.

Application is in, ideas page is up, nothing to do but wait, and spend the evening fretting that I messed something up.

It'll be just fine :)

Thanks for putting it all together

yeah, thanks Kev for setting the page and uplication up

Hope we'll get accepted

In that context: Was there a year where an XSF application was not accepted?

Flow: to extend the project? or you afraid that the project is too small?

daniel: No, to improve interoperability between an axolotl enabled conversations and another xmpp client

Flow: I mean in the end this is of course the expected outcome. but I was more or less going to write this myself with maybe some other people who are interested

and to have some written up for other dev who want to implement

something that eventually ends in an xep

Flow: yes an xep is of course what I'm trying to accomplish

allright :)

but I was afraid this might be too much for gsoc

bbl

uh, that's why I said, rough draft, pre-spec, just something written up that is not source code

GSoC shouldn't involve writing specs, it's specifically summer of /code/, not documentation. It's fine to do a little spec work in there, but a XEP shouldn't be a significant part.

Well, we're past the deadline now. So I hope everything went ok.

And to the earlier question - there hasn't /yet/ been a year that we've applied and not been accepted, that I can remember. But rather than treating that as a good sign that we should be accepted, I'm afraid it's more of a sign that we're due a year where we don't make the cut.

Also - I wonder why the room is kicking me out.

Kev, your leaving didn't include a message from the server, so I'm inclined to think it wasn't "kicking" (if that helps)

Hmm. Well' it wasn't triggered by my client at least. I'm not entirely sure what my server might be doing to make me leave the room.