intosiThe attacks on jabber.org two years back all came from ejabberd servers with open reg as well.
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FOSS81405971And what of Jappix, in discussion of spam & abuse?
TobiasLance, http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0358.html can work with MUC, right?
Lanceyes
HolgerLance: How's that meant to work? My client subscribes the PEP nodes of the other participants?
LanceYou could. Or the room has an associated pubsub node for files that these are published to
Lanceor you include the jinglepub in a message and just send it
Tobiasfor MUC1 it'd probably best to just put it in a message and send it
Tobiasfor MUC2 a dedicated node would probably be the way to go
HolgerI think that really ends up being too complex a solution for sharing cat pics.
intosiNo effort is too much for cat pics.
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dwdlooks about.
dwdThat's almost a Board, there.
Willalmost
LauraHola
LauraWho do we have today then? I know adam isn't around
SamWhitedWhat's almost a board? A log that's sitting in the lumber yard next to the planer?
LauraI see Will - how about simon or ralph?
ZashYell "Timber!" and see if anyone shows up?
simonhere.
WillSamWhited, we're an unfinished board. Although actually we're almost a finished board.
Laura*bangs gavel*
Let’s start the meeting!
LauraFollowing g on from our email about the structure of these meetings, our agenda looks as follows:
LauraAgenda for today
1. Roll call and agenda agreement
2. Review website commitment list
3. Review commitment list from last time
4. Review items for discussion
5. AOB
6. Time and date of next
Laura#1 has happened (adam and ralphm both absent)
Laura#2 website. This could get interesting without adam… Simon, can you provide an update?
simonwe have the following tasks that need to be done for the launch: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/milestones/Launch
simonand actually I see two on there that can be wiped off.
LauraDo we have people doing them, or do we need help?
simonThey all have assignees.
LauraLovely stuff. Do we have an idea on go-live?
simonimho, we should just set a date for a dns switch over and then deal with the consequences.
Will+1
Laura+1
simonI’d feel comfortable for this time next week.
LauraLet's aim for it! Simon, can you update and talk to adam about this?
simonthen we play “they that complain, submit pull requests”
simonok - I’ll email Adam and cc’ board@
LauraThanks
Laura#3 Review commitment list from last time
LauraFirst task is mine, and I honestly can't remember if I nudged dwd about the Council reviewing the website before launch?
LauraI ask, hoping he is paying attention
simonWe did.
simonThere was no response.
simon(paraphrasing DWD)
LauraOk, it was more a courtesy thing than anything - I just wanted to make sure they had an opportunity
LauraThe nmext action was you Simon - following up on treasurer role?
simonI think we’re close enough that any changes can be rolled in right away.
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LauraGreat
dwdI'd suggest putting it through a last call, and requiring comments to come in with PRs.
simonre treasurer… no good excuses on my end… I’ll ping him now too.
fipposimon: well, there was at least one PR as a result of this review
simonDWD: I like it.
LauraDwd - can you bring this up at the Council meeting?
simonfippo: thanks. They have been useful and I’ve been trying to process them as quick as they come in.
LauraSimon, thanks. I know you have been busy with the website
stpetersorry I'm late
LauraNo worries stpeter
Laura #4 Review items for discussion
LauraStarting with the 2 items that might have been discussed post-Board last week
LauraWas anyone around with ralphm who talked summit/FOSDEM ?
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dwdLaura, No more Council meetings until next term.
LauraAh, ok - I will email
LauraI will also take that silence as no one had a post-Board chat (which is totally fine, it was an open thing)
LauraI wonder if simon / adam managed to work out what to do about the website strapline (the other dicussion topic)?
stpeterI had a suggestion for the strapline (if a strapline is what I think it is...)
simonNo new strapline comments. I’m also happy for a flurry of “pull requests to fix that” or at least a discussion thread opening up when it’s live.
stpeternods to Simon
simonPeter - could you start a new strapline issue on GH and then we can keep this there (and Laura happy with a short meeting)?
simonis curious…
LauraI like this approach Simon. I suggest we give the site being live a few days before we try to generate new views etc (tweets etc) anyway, give people time to do their requests
stpeterSimon: sure thing
LauraGreat!
Laura#5 AOB
LauraThere are 2, both of which have my name on
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LauraNumber 1 - Request from Florian for a contribution towards his GSoC mentor costs - $418
Laurastpeter - just to double check, we haven't done this before have we? And that's not me saying we shouldn't, just checking history
Willhave we done that before.... oh
stpeterLaura: I do not recall that we have ever done that, no
LauraBoard - thoughts?
dwdWe have paid for people to go to things, assuming that's what this is.
Willif we do it for one we really have to offer to do it for all
LauraThat's my thinking Will
Willall mentors that is
simonDo we have an idea of what these costs were?
Willdo we have a breakdown of what the costs were?
LauraTravel and accomodation
stpeterWe've never sent anyone to the mentor summit before
dwdThis is the travel to Google, then?
LauraNot travel sorry, that was covered
stpeteryes
LauraWords: The 1100 USD seem to cover my travel expenses, incl. the transfer from
airport to the hotel and back. I plan to stay from Sep 5. - Sep 9, the
summit is from Sep. 6. - Sep. 8., so I've to pay 2 nights out of my own
Pocket, around 400 USD. Given that my financial situation is not solid
yet (student), and that the mentoring organization receives 500 USD per
student, could the XSF imagine to cover (a part of) this?
dwdThe XSF gets paid by Google for the GSoC, so I imagine we would still make a profit if we did.
simonNot sure that profit is the right word… but I’m with dwd on this one.
simon+1 for payment and big thank-you to the mentors for their efforts.
LauraSo, Simon & Will - happy in this instance to cover the 418 USD for Florian, using the money received from Google?
Laura+1 from me
Willif it's a legitimate GSOC expense then we can pay but we really ought to canvas the other mentors to see if they have similar claims (they may assume no money was available)
Willso, +0.5 from me
LauraWe only sent 2 people, so I can speak to Joachim and check?
LauraWe can decide once I have checked with him?
WillI think that sounds sensible
LauraTaken.
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LauraMy last AOB (there may be more) - when is our last Board meeting, as current Board?
Willnext week I think
stpeteryes
LauraMonday 16th Nov?
LauraGreat. Any other AOBs?
Willyup
WillI mean "yes" to Mon 16, not to AOB
Laura:)
LauraAny AOB simon?
simonI’m good - emailed about the launch (next Monday).
Laura#6 Time and date of next
LauraSame time, next week - for the final meeting!
stpeteryay :-)
Laura*bangs gavel* Thanks all
LauraIt will be awesome to go live with the website on the same day as out last meeting
simon+1
SamWhitedNice; well done!
Willmy last day on the board will see the website I took on as my first board assignment (way back when) replaced :-)
stpeterindeed!
stpeterhaha
LauraIt's like the circle of Will's life in the XSF
Willhopefully just my life in the XSF, rather than the whole thing!
FOSS81405971"Final meeting"? What is happening to the XSF?
ZashBoard election.
Willout with the old, in with the new (partly)
FOSS81405971Oh, I see. And you're not seeking consideration, Will .
simonalready feels old without being labelled by will.
FOSS81405971nods.
Willcorrect
stpeterSimon: shall we send a note to the members@ list asking for website review and feedback (issues & PRs) in the run-up to launch?
simonpeter: leave it with me.
stpeterOK!
FOSS81405971Thanks for answering my question.
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Ge0rGwhat's the best way to handle typos on new.x.o? one pull request per typo? per document?
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simonGeorg: just keep the pull requests coming with as many or as few corrections as you like.
Ge0rGsimon: just made #76; need to run now, however...
stpeterI'll make an effort to provide updates throughout the week, but now I need to get back to day job tasks :-)
simonmerged your [rewriting] history changes.
simon;)
stpeterhehehe
stpeterthe CI stuff is nice :-)
stpeteroh we already seem to have content for http://new.xmpp.org/about/standards-process so perhaps we can close https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/40
stpeteraha, it's already closed
stpeterif only GitHub would update pages automatically
simonpeter: github wikis? ;)
stpeterit seems that I can still work on http://new.xmpp.org/uses/instant-messaging though
simonoh yes please!
SamWhitedIf you include "Fixes #40" in the commit somewhere, it will auto close it :)
stpeterI think it would also be good to have a "uses" page about machine-to-machine comms
stpeterSamWhited: yep :-)
stpeteror maybe m2m falls under IoT
stpeterI'll make a start on that, too
stpeterhttp://wiki.xmpp.org/web/InternetOfThings has some content we can re-use :-)
stpetersomething for me to work on tonight, anyway...
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SamWhitedThat's a new one... 'To unsubscribe, send "!StopSpam" jabber:jid@bin.vc' somehow I don't think I'll be trying that...
SamWhitedmaybe with a fake JID.
SamWhitedJust to see how much more I get afterwards.