The attacks on jabber.org two years back all came from ejabberd servers with open reg as well.
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FOSS81405971
And what of Jappix, in discussion of spam & abuse?
Tobias
Lance, http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0358.html can work with MUC, right?
Lance
yes
Holger
Lance: How's that meant to work? My client subscribes the PEP nodes of the other participants?
Lance
You could. Or the room has an associated pubsub node for files that these are published to
Lance
or you include the jinglepub in a message and just send it
Tobias
for MUC1 it'd probably best to just put it in a message and send it
Tobias
for MUC2 a dedicated node would probably be the way to go
Holger
I think that really ends up being too complex a solution for sharing cat pics.
intosi
No effort is too much for cat pics.
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dwdlooks about.
dwd
That's almost a Board, there.
Will
almost
Laura
Hola
Laura
Who do we have today then? I know adam isn't around
SamWhited
What's almost a board? A log that's sitting in the lumber yard next to the planer?
Laura
I see Will - how about simon or ralph?
Zash
Yell "Timber!" and see if anyone shows up?
simon
here.
Will
SamWhited, we're an unfinished board. Although actually we're almost a finished board.
Laura
*bangs gavel*
Let’s start the meeting!
Laura
Following g on from our email about the structure of these meetings, our agenda looks as follows:
Laura
Agenda for today
1. Roll call and agenda agreement
2. Review website commitment list
3. Review commitment list from last time
4. Review items for discussion
5. AOB
6. Time and date of next
Laura
#1 has happened (adam and ralphm both absent)
Laura
#2 website. This could get interesting without adam… Simon, can you provide an update?
simon
we have the following tasks that need to be done for the launch: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/milestones/Launch
simon
and actually I see two on there that can be wiped off.
Laura
Do we have people doing them, or do we need help?
simon
They all have assignees.
Laura
Lovely stuff. Do we have an idea on go-live?
simon
imho, we should just set a date for a dns switch over and then deal with the consequences.
Will
+1
Laura
+1
simon
I’d feel comfortable for this time next week.
Laura
Let's aim for it! Simon, can you update and talk to adam about this?
simon
then we play “they that complain, submit pull requests”
simon
ok - I’ll email Adam and cc’ board@
Laura
Thanks
Laura
#3 Review commitment list from last time
Laura
First task is mine, and I honestly can't remember if I nudged dwd about the Council reviewing the website before launch?
Laura
I ask, hoping he is paying attention
simon
We did.
simon
There was no response.
simon
(paraphrasing DWD)
Laura
Ok, it was more a courtesy thing than anything - I just wanted to make sure they had an opportunity
Laura
The nmext action was you Simon - following up on treasurer role?
simon
I think we’re close enough that any changes can be rolled in right away.
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Laura
Great
dwd
I'd suggest putting it through a last call, and requiring comments to come in with PRs.
simon
re treasurer… no good excuses on my end… I’ll ping him now too.
fippo
simon: well, there was at least one PR as a result of this review
simon
DWD: I like it.
Laura
Dwd - can you bring this up at the Council meeting?
simon
fippo: thanks. They have been useful and I’ve been trying to process them as quick as they come in.
Laura
Simon, thanks. I know you have been busy with the website
stpeter
sorry I'm late
Laura
No worries stpeter
Laura
#4 Review items for discussion
Laura
Starting with the 2 items that might have been discussed post-Board last week
Laura
Was anyone around with ralphm who talked summit/FOSDEM ?
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dwd
Laura, No more Council meetings until next term.
Laura
Ah, ok - I will email
Laura
I will also take that silence as no one had a post-Board chat (which is totally fine, it was an open thing)
Laura
I wonder if simon / adam managed to work out what to do about the website strapline (the other dicussion topic)?
stpeter
I had a suggestion for the strapline (if a strapline is what I think it is...)
simon
No new strapline comments. I’m also happy for a flurry of “pull requests to fix that” or at least a discussion thread opening up when it’s live.
stpeternods to Simon
simon
Peter - could you start a new strapline issue on GH and then we can keep this there (and Laura happy with a short meeting)?
simonis curious…
Laura
I like this approach Simon. I suggest we give the site being live a few days before we try to generate new views etc (tweets etc) anyway, give people time to do their requests
stpeter
Simon: sure thing
Laura
Great!
Laura
#5 AOB
Laura
There are 2, both of which have my name on
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Laura
Number 1 - Request from Florian for a contribution towards his GSoC mentor costs - $418
Laura
stpeter - just to double check, we haven't done this before have we? And that's not me saying we shouldn't, just checking history
Will
have we done that before.... oh
stpeter
Laura: I do not recall that we have ever done that, no
Laura
Board - thoughts?
dwd
We have paid for people to go to things, assuming that's what this is.
Will
if we do it for one we really have to offer to do it for all
Laura
That's my thinking Will
Will
all mentors that is
simon
Do we have an idea of what these costs were?
Will
do we have a breakdown of what the costs were?
Laura
Travel and accomodation
stpeter
We've never sent anyone to the mentor summit before
dwd
This is the travel to Google, then?
Laura
Not travel sorry, that was covered
stpeter
yes
Laura
Words: The 1100 USD seem to cover my travel expenses, incl. the transfer from
airport to the hotel and back. I plan to stay from Sep 5. - Sep 9, the
summit is from Sep. 6. - Sep. 8., so I've to pay 2 nights out of my own
Pocket, around 400 USD. Given that my financial situation is not solid
yet (student), and that the mentoring organization receives 500 USD per
student, could the XSF imagine to cover (a part of) this?
dwd
The XSF gets paid by Google for the GSoC, so I imagine we would still make a profit if we did.
simon
Not sure that profit is the right word… but I’m with dwd on this one.
simon
+1 for payment and big thank-you to the mentors for their efforts.
Laura
So, Simon & Will - happy in this instance to cover the 418 USD for Florian, using the money received from Google?
Laura
+1 from me
Will
if it's a legitimate GSOC expense then we can pay but we really ought to canvas the other mentors to see if they have similar claims (they may assume no money was available)
Will
so, +0.5 from me
Laura
We only sent 2 people, so I can speak to Joachim and check?
Laura
We can decide once I have checked with him?
Will
I think that sounds sensible
Laura
Taken.
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Laura
My last AOB (there may be more) - when is our last Board meeting, as current Board?
Will
next week I think
stpeter
yes
Laura
Monday 16th Nov?
Laura
Great. Any other AOBs?
Will
yup
Will
I mean "yes" to Mon 16, not to AOB
Laura
:)
Laura
Any AOB simon?
simon
I’m good - emailed about the launch (next Monday).
Laura
#6 Time and date of next
Laura
Same time, next week - for the final meeting!
stpeter
yay :-)
Laura
*bangs gavel* Thanks all
Laura
It will be awesome to go live with the website on the same day as out last meeting
simon
+1
SamWhited
Nice; well done!
Will
my last day on the board will see the website I took on as my first board assignment (way back when) replaced :-)
stpeter
indeed!
stpeter
haha
Laura
It's like the circle of Will's life in the XSF
Will
hopefully just my life in the XSF, rather than the whole thing!
FOSS81405971
"Final meeting"? What is happening to the XSF?
Zash
Board election.
Will
out with the old, in with the new (partly)
FOSS81405971
Oh, I see. And you're not seeking consideration, Will .
simon
already feels old without being labelled by will.
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Will
correct
stpeter
Simon: shall we send a note to the members@ list asking for website review and feedback (issues & PRs) in the run-up to launch?
simon
peter: leave it with me.
stpeter
OK!
FOSS81405971
Thanks for answering my question.
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Ge0rG
what's the best way to handle typos on new.x.o? one pull request per typo? per document?
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simon
Georg: just keep the pull requests coming with as many or as few corrections as you like.
Ge0rG
simon: just made #76; need to run now, however...
Ge0rG
will read on later / tomorrow.
stpeter
simon: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/80
stpeter
I'll make an effort to provide updates throughout the week, but now I need to get back to day job tasks :-)
simon
merged your [rewriting] history changes.
simon
;)
stpeter
hehehe
stpeter
the CI stuff is nice :-)
stpeter
oh we already seem to have content for http://new.xmpp.org/about/standards-process so perhaps we can close https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/40
stpeter
aha, it's already closed
stpeter
if only GitHub would update pages automatically
simon
peter: github wikis? ;)
stpeter
it seems that I can still work on http://new.xmpp.org/uses/instant-messaging though
simon
oh yes please!
SamWhited
If you include "Fixes #40" in the commit somewhere, it will auto close it :)
stpeter
I think it would also be good to have a "uses" page about machine-to-machine comms
stpeter
SamWhited: yep :-)
stpeter
or maybe m2m falls under IoT
stpeter
I'll make a start on that, too
stpeter
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/InternetOfThings has some content we can re-use :-)
stpeter
something for me to work on tonight, anyway...
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SamWhited
That's a new one... 'To unsubscribe, send "!StopSpam" jabber:jid@bin.vc' somehow I don't think I'll be trying that...