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goffi
hi
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xnyhps
Is there a plan for draft-cridland-xmpp-session-01?
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dwd
Ah. No, but there should be; I think there was consensus on it already.
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Zash
Also spam
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Zash
Yet another ejabberd with open registration
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Zash
Spam about datacenters that allow spammers ...
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Ge0rG
there is also a prosody allowing open registration on some domain I own...
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Zash
None of the recent spam sources have been anything but ejabberds with open registration
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Zash
That I have seen at least.
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Ge0rG
So why is it only ejabberd?
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Holger
"ejabberd -- the spammer's server of choice!"
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intosi
Ge0rG: perhaps because there's a large install base.
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Ge0rG
I'm still waiting for the day when I wake up and have a gazillion of spam abuse messages in my inbox
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Ge0rG
..and I can't do nothing about ot✎ -
Zash
Large install base. Preferences of people who aim to have one billion users. Default config?
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Ge0rG
..and I can't do nithing about ot ✏
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intosi
The attacks on jabber.org two years back all came from ejabberd servers with open reg as well.
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FOSS81405971
And what of Jappix, in discussion of spam & abuse?
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Tobias
Lance, http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0358.html can work with MUC, right?
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Lance
yes
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Holger
Lance: How's that meant to work? My client subscribes the PEP nodes of the other participants?
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Lance
You could. Or the room has an associated pubsub node for files that these are published to
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Lance
or you include the jinglepub in a message and just send it
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Tobias
for MUC1 it'd probably best to just put it in a message and send it
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Tobias
for MUC2 a dedicated node would probably be the way to go
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Holger
I think that really ends up being too complex a solution for sharing cat pics.
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intosi
No effort is too much for cat pics.
- dwd looks about.
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dwd
That's almost a Board, there.
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Will
almost
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Laura
Hola
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Laura
Who do we have today then? I know adam isn't around
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SamWhited
What's almost a board? A log that's sitting in the lumber yard next to the planer?
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Laura
I see Will - how about simon or ralph?
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Zash
Yell "Timber!" and see if anyone shows up?
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simon
here.
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Will
SamWhited, we're an unfinished board. Although actually we're almost a finished board.
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Laura
*bangs gavel* Let’s start the meeting!
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Laura
Following g on from our email about the structure of these meetings, our agenda looks as follows:
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Laura
Agenda for today 1. Roll call and agenda agreement 2. Review website commitment list 3. Review commitment list from last time 4. Review items for discussion 5. AOB 6. Time and date of next
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Laura
#1 has happened (adam and ralphm both absent)
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Laura
#2 website. This could get interesting without adam… Simon, can you provide an update?
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simon
we have the following tasks that need to be done for the launch: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/milestones/Launch
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simon
and actually I see two on there that can be wiped off.
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Laura
Do we have people doing them, or do we need help?
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simon
They all have assignees.
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Laura
Lovely stuff. Do we have an idea on go-live?
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simon
imho, we should just set a date for a dns switch over and then deal with the consequences.
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Will
+1
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Laura
+1
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simon
I’d feel comfortable for this time next week.
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Laura
Let's aim for it! Simon, can you update and talk to adam about this?
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simon
then we play “they that complain, submit pull requests”
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simon
ok - I’ll email Adam and cc’ board@
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Laura
Thanks
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Laura
#3 Review commitment list from last time
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Laura
First task is mine, and I honestly can't remember if I nudged dwd about the Council reviewing the website before launch?
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Laura
I ask, hoping he is paying attention
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simon
We did.
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simon
There was no response.
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simon
(paraphrasing DWD)
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Laura
Ok, it was more a courtesy thing than anything - I just wanted to make sure they had an opportunity
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Laura
The nmext action was you Simon - following up on treasurer role?
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simon
I think we’re close enough that any changes can be rolled in right away.
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Laura
Great
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dwd
I'd suggest putting it through a last call, and requiring comments to come in with PRs.
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simon
re treasurer… no good excuses on my end… I’ll ping him now too.
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fippo
simon: well, there was at least one PR as a result of this review
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simon
DWD: I like it.
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Laura
Dwd - can you bring this up at the Council meeting?
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simon
fippo: thanks. They have been useful and I’ve been trying to process them as quick as they come in.
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Laura
Simon, thanks. I know you have been busy with the website
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stpeter
sorry I'm late
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Laura
No worries stpeter
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Laura
#4 Review items for discussion
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Laura
Starting with the 2 items that might have been discussed post-Board last week
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Laura
Was anyone around with ralphm who talked summit/FOSDEM ?
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dwd
Laura, No more Council meetings until next term.
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Laura
Ah, ok - I will email
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Laura
I will also take that silence as no one had a post-Board chat (which is totally fine, it was an open thing)
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Laura
I wonder if simon / adam managed to work out what to do about the website strapline (the other dicussion topic)?
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stpeter
I had a suggestion for the strapline (if a strapline is what I think it is...)
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simon
No new strapline comments. I’m also happy for a flurry of “pull requests to fix that” or at least a discussion thread opening up when it’s live.
- stpeter nods to Simon
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simon
Peter - could you start a new strapline issue on GH and then we can keep this there (and Laura happy with a short meeting)?
- simon is curious…
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Laura
I like this approach Simon. I suggest we give the site being live a few days before we try to generate new views etc (tweets etc) anyway, give people time to do their requests
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stpeter
Simon: sure thing
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Laura
Great!
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Laura
#5 AOB
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Laura
There are 2, both of which have my name on
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Laura
Number 1 - Request from Florian for a contribution towards his GSoC mentor costs - $418
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Laura
stpeter - just to double check, we haven't done this before have we? And that's not me saying we shouldn't, just checking history
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Will
have we done that before.... oh
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stpeter
Laura: I do not recall that we have ever done that, no
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Laura
Board - thoughts?
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dwd
We have paid for people to go to things, assuming that's what this is.
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Will
if we do it for one we really have to offer to do it for all
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Laura
That's my thinking Will
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Will
all mentors that is
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simon
Do we have an idea of what these costs were?
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Will
do we have a breakdown of what the costs were?
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Laura
Travel and accomodation
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stpeter
We've never sent anyone to the mentor summit before
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dwd
This is the travel to Google, then?
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Laura
Not travel sorry, that was covered
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stpeter
yes
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Laura
Words: The 1100 USD seem to cover my travel expenses, incl. the transfer from airport to the hotel and back. I plan to stay from Sep 5. - Sep 9, the summit is from Sep. 6. - Sep. 8., so I've to pay 2 nights out of my own Pocket, around 400 USD. Given that my financial situation is not solid yet (student), and that the mentoring organization receives 500 USD per student, could the XSF imagine to cover (a part of) this?
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dwd
The XSF gets paid by Google for the GSoC, so I imagine we would still make a profit if we did.
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simon
Not sure that profit is the right word… but I’m with dwd on this one.
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simon
+1 for payment and big thank-you to the mentors for their efforts.
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Laura
So, Simon & Will - happy in this instance to cover the 418 USD for Florian, using the money received from Google?
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Laura
+1 from me
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Will
if it's a legitimate GSOC expense then we can pay but we really ought to canvas the other mentors to see if they have similar claims (they may assume no money was available)
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Will
so, +0.5 from me
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Laura
We only sent 2 people, so I can speak to Joachim and check?
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Laura
We can decide once I have checked with him?
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Will
I think that sounds sensible
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Laura
Taken.
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Laura
My last AOB (there may be more) - when is our last Board meeting, as current Board?
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Will
next week I think
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stpeter
yes
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Laura
Monday 16th Nov?
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Laura
Great. Any other AOBs?
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Will
yup
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Will
I mean "yes" to Mon 16, not to AOB
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Laura
:)
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Laura
Any AOB simon?
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simon
I’m good - emailed about the launch (next Monday).
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Laura
#6 Time and date of next
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Laura
Same time, next week - for the final meeting!
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stpeter
yay :-)
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Laura
*bangs gavel* Thanks all
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Laura
It will be awesome to go live with the website on the same day as out last meeting
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simon
+1
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SamWhited
Nice; well done!
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Will
my last day on the board will see the website I took on as my first board assignment (way back when) replaced :-)
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stpeter
indeed!
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stpeter
haha
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Laura
It's like the circle of Will's life in the XSF
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Will
hopefully just my life in the XSF, rather than the whole thing!
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FOSS81405971
"Final meeting"? What is happening to the XSF?
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Zash
Board election.
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Will
out with the old, in with the new (partly)
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FOSS81405971
Oh, I see. And you're not seeking consideration, Will .
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simon
already feels old without being labelled by will.
- FOSS81405971 nods.
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Will
correct
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stpeter
Simon: shall we send a note to the members@ list asking for website review and feedback (issues & PRs) in the run-up to launch?
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simon
peter: leave it with me.
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stpeter
OK!
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FOSS81405971
Thanks for answering my question.
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Ge0rG
what's the best way to handle typos on new.x.o? one pull request per typo? per document?
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simon
Georg: just keep the pull requests coming with as many or as few corrections as you like.
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Ge0rG
simon: just made #76; need to run now, however...
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Ge0rG
will read on later / tomorrow.
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stpeter
simon: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/80
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stpeter
I'll make an effort to provide updates throughout the week, but now I need to get back to day job tasks :-)
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simon
merged your [rewriting] history changes.
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simon
;)
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stpeter
hehehe
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stpeter
the CI stuff is nice :-)
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stpeter
oh we already seem to have content for http://new.xmpp.org/about/standards-process so perhaps we can close https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/40
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stpeter
aha, it's already closed
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stpeter
if only GitHub would update pages automatically
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simon
peter: github wikis? ;)
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stpeter
it seems that I can still work on http://new.xmpp.org/uses/instant-messaging though
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simon
oh yes please!
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SamWhited
If you include "Fixes #40" in the commit somewhere, it will auto close it :)
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stpeter
I think it would also be good to have a "uses" page about machine-to-machine comms
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stpeter
SamWhited: yep :-)
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stpeter
or maybe m2m falls under IoT
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stpeter
I'll make a start on that, too
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stpeter
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/InternetOfThings has some content we can re-use :-)
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stpeter
something for me to work on tonight, anyway...
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SamWhited
That's a new one... 'To unsubscribe, send "!StopSpam" jabber:jid@bin.vc' somehow I don't think I'll be trying that...
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SamWhited
maybe with a fake JID.
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SamWhited
Just to see how much more I get afterwards.