XSF Discussion - 2017-02-19

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10:57:30 Zash Still board meeting?
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11:05:15 Ge0rG Yes, it's a neverending story
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11:08:28 pep. Flow: section 5.2.2 "<inst-resume-failed-failed>" typo? :)
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11:12:13 pep. 6.1 s/coice/choice
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11:29:57 Flow pep: Thanks. What's your real name, so I can put it into the ack section? :)
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17:16:59 Zash set the topic to XMPP Standards Foundation| Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
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22:03:12 Tobias MattJ, thx for the new MAM version
22:04:07 Tobias MattJ, would be great if could take a minute and chime in on https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/420
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22:05:03 MattJ I haven't read that yet, will do
22:05:09 Tobias thx
22:05:58 Zash Never ending booooaaaard meeeting
22:06:52 daniel That pr should be obsolete now
22:08:13 MattJ Looks like it
22:08:14 Tobias Zash, if subjects are supposed to be short lived, reflecting current discussion, UIs should ask the user after an hour or two, if the changed subject is still valid :)
22:08:50 Zash Subjects with expiry times? :)
22:08:57 MattJ My only issue now is that the fully-working MAM sync that I've dreamt of is blocked on bind2 :)
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22:09:50 Zash MAM dreams?
22:10:04 Tobias Zash, well..you don't know in advance how long the board meeting goes
22:10:15 MattJ Yes, I've had those (or should that be MAM nightmares?)
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22:14:39 Zash Where'd that meeting bot Kev made go?
22:14:51 Kev Hmm?
22:15:19 Kev I don't remember if that was a Sleekbot or a Swiftob script, it's so long ago.
22:15:33 Zash Such a bot could revert the topic afterwards
22:15:44 Kev MattJ: Well, it's also blocked on an unread sync spec. Unless you're not dreaming big enough :)
22:15:53 Tobias Zash, but essentially it's a client issue
22:16:06 MattJ Kev, I'd settle for sync, before unread-sync :)
22:16:25 Kev Unread sync is very important to me.
22:17:17 Tobias yup..to have the notifications on the mobile go away when reading things on the desktop
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22:22:31 Zash Peek at chat states and receipts coming through carbons?
22:23:05 Zash And outgoing messages
22:23:27 MattJ I'll still settle for actually not missing messages sent while my phone was offline because they got sent to my desktop, before I'll complain about the notification issue
22:24:23 Zash Except for people having argued that chat states and such shouldn't be carbon'd or mam'd
22:24:50 Tobias Zash, btw: I wonder if MIX should define that stuff like chat state notifications should go over a dedicated pubsub node...or if that belongs in CSN, or a new XEP entirely
22:25:04 Kev Tobias: Not even for that. For when you come online again and need to know what's new.
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22:26:01 Tobias Kev, but it'll fix that notification issue too, not?
22:26:28 Kev Yes.
22:26:42 Kev They're probably two ways of looking at the same issue.
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