XSF Discussion - 2017-02-25

  1. Zash

    How would you feel about publishing epubs, as a complement to pdfs?

  2. Zash

    Editors & others ^

  3. Tobias

    if someone steps up and does the required work, why no

  4. Tobias


  5. Ge0rG

    I like epub

  6. Zash

    I got an e-ink device to read RFCs, XEPs and such on. It's ~A6 in size. The margins in the pdfs are ... not optimized for this.

  7. Tobias

    Zash, they indeed are not...i had some success reading XEPs as HTML in the kindle browser

  8. waqas

    Zash: Does it have a web browser? How well does that work?

  9. Zash

    waqas: I'm not going to connect it to the Internet ever.

  10. waqas

    How do you know it isn't transmitting right now?

  11. Zash

    Damn thing asked me to sign into Google / Facebook

  12. waqas

    So it did connect to the internet at least once? They know you now

  13. Zash

    Hard reset, wrap in tin foil, change wifi password.

  14. Zash

    Dumping XEP HTML files onto it worked pretty well actually.

  15. Zash

    Made some epubs with pandoc via the xep→markdown converter I made, worked well too.

  16. waqas

    Zash: Good. I don't know why ePubs would be any better than normal HTML files (since they are just packaged HTML files anyway)

  17. Zash

    XHTML in a zip file :)

  18. Zash

    Surely this could be generated directly

  19. waqas

    Zash: I bet the device uses an HTML parser for it ^^

  20. Tobias

    Zash, yeah..there's now a drone observing you from the air ;)

  21. Zash

    Let me tell you about this marvelous invention called "blinds".

  22. Zash

    And also about how great humans are at throwing small objects.

  23. Zash

    waqas: Maybe, maybe not. Since it's XHTML, it could use a special parser.

  24. Zash

    OTOH, it didn't choke on unbalanced tags ....

  25. MattJ


  26. Zash

    Thanks to the great property of Markdown where it just passes raw HTML right through, I ended up with unescaped text like <body> or <message>, which it just happily rendered as increased margins

  27. waqas

    Zash: Practically all modern ebook things use a webkit variant these days

  28. jonasw

    not chromium?

  29. jonasw

    well, okay, chromium in itself is also just a webkit variant

  30. waqas

    jonasw: Too new

  31. waqas

    But yes, I put it in the webkit variant bucket

  32. Zash

    You put a browser in the rendering engine bucket?

  33. waqas

    Zash: He likely meant Blink

  34. jonasw


  35. Zash

    Wasn't that the IE rendering engine? Or something?

  36. waqas

    No, that was Google's fork of webkit

  37. waqas

    IE's is Trident for older browsers, EdgeHTML for Edge

  38. Tobias

    waqas, why not put it in the KHTML bucket ;)

  39. waqas

    Webkit has diverged significantly (practically all the pieces have been rewritten), I doubt much of the original KHTML code survives.

  40. Tobias

    although i wonder how a (L)GPL rendering engine could be the base of a BSD licensed WebKit :)

  41. Tobias

    licenses, how do they work 🤔

  42. Neustradamus

    Guus: some year ago, I have requested plugins on the XMPP Wiki, I think in the same time to have the last MediaWiki for have XMPP URI, MediaWiki has added after my requests: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_URIs

  43. Guus

    Neustradamus: what happened with that request?