XSF Discussion - 2017-02-25

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Zash 13:25:43
How would you feel about publishing epubs, as a complement to pdfs?
Zash 13:25:51
Editors & others ^
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Tobias 13:30:05
if someone steps up and does the required work, why no
Tobias 13:30:08
*not
Ge0rG 13:30:16
I like epub
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Zash 13:32:41
I got an e-ink device to read RFCs, XEPs and such on. It's ~A6 in size. The margins in the pdfs are ... not optimized for this.
Tobias 13:33:42
Zash, they indeed are not...i had some success reading XEPs as HTML in the kindle browser
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waqas 13:34:30
Zash: Does it have a web browser? How well does that work?
Zash 13:34:50
waqas: I'm not going to connect it to the Internet ever.
waqas 13:35:08
How do you know it isn't transmitting right now?
Zash 13:35:17
Damn thing asked me to sign into Google / Facebook
waqas 13:35:37
So it did connect to the internet at least once? They know you now
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Zash 13:36:50
Hard reset, wrap in tin foil, change wifi password.
Zash 13:37:26
Dumping XEP HTML files onto it worked pretty well actually.
Zash 13:37:57
Made some epubs with pandoc via the xep→markdown converter I made, worked well too.
waqas 13:38:32
Zash: Good. I don't know why ePubs would be any better than normal HTML files (since they are just packaged HTML files anyway)
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Zash 13:38:42
XHTML in a zip file :)
Zash 13:39:00
Surely this could be generated directly
waqas 13:39:21
Zash: I bet the device uses an HTML parser for it ^^
Tobias 13:39:38
Zash, yeah..there's now a drone observing you from the air ;)
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Zash 13:46:44
Let me tell you about this marvelous invention called "blinds".
Zash 13:47:16
And also about how great humans are at throwing small objects.
Zash 13:47:45
waqas: Maybe, maybe not. Since it's XHTML, it could use a special parser.
Zash 13:48:03
OTOH, it didn't choke on unbalanced tags ....
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MattJ 13:48:59
Heh
Zash 13:49:47
Thanks to the great property of Markdown where it just passes raw HTML right through, I ended up with unescaped text like <body> or <message>, which it just happily rendered as increased margins
waqas 13:50:07
Zash: Practically all modern ebook things use a webkit variant these days
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jonasw 13:50:17
not chromium?
jonasw 13:50:26
well, okay, chromium in itself is also just a webkit variant
waqas 13:50:27
jonasw: Too new
waqas 13:50:38
But yes, I put it in the webkit variant bucket
Zash 13:50:52
You put a browser in the rendering engine bucket?
waqas 13:51:03
Zash: He likely meant Blink
jonasw 13:51:06
right
Zash 13:51:24
Wasn't that the IE rendering engine? Or something?
waqas 13:51:41
No, that was Google's fork of webkit
waqas 13:52:37
IE's is Trident for older browsers, EdgeHTML for Edge
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Tobias 13:54:56
waqas, why not put it in the KHTML bucket ;)
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waqas 13:57:15
Webkit has diverged significantly (practically all the pieces have been rewritten), I doubt much of the original KHTML code survives.
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Tobias 14:01:57
although i wonder how a (L)GPL rendering engine could be the base of a BSD licensed WebKit :)
Tobias 14:02:17
licenses, how do they work 🤔
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Neustradamus 14:12:18
Guus: some year ago, I have requested plugins on the XMPP Wiki, I think in the same time to have the last MediaWiki for have XMPP URI, MediaWiki has added after my requests: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_URIs
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Guus 15:53:58
Neustradamus: what happened with that request?
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