XSF Discussion - 2017-02-26

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  117. Guus

    ralphm, kev, others. What is the last thought on that 'getting started' stuff (strict neutrality policy)?

  118. Guus

    I'm inclined to merge https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/246 and have people improve upon that. Perhaps that triggers some movement on the issue.

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  120. Guus

    intosi, alex, Tobias, nyco (wiki sysops?): Could you please install the Cite extension to mediawiki (or point me to someone that can)? Should be as easy as downloading one file, and have a one-line modification in another: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Installation

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  122. nyco

    Sure, good idea, who will do it?

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  124. Guus

    I don't have access to that machine. You're listed as a sysop, so I'm hoping you have.

  125. Guus

    While at it, we might want to revisit the menu bar on the left site. A lot of the links point to pages that are either empty, or completely unmaintained (eg: council's radar). We should remove those links, if it's not to much trouble.

  126. Guus

    again, I don't have the power (captain).

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  140. Ge0rG

    Meh, this might be a real showstopper for carbonation of body-less 'normal' messages: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0047.html#message

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  158. jonasw

    re carbons: like someone said a few days ago, what we actually need is a distinguisher between "meant for a specific client" and "meant for an account"

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  217. Ge0rG

    jonasw: 0184 are obviously ment to a specific client, but it's good to carbon-copy them nevertheless

  218. jonasw

    Ge0rG: they are not, I think

  219. jonasw

    they are meant for a *user*.

  220. Ge0rG

    jonasw: maybe we are trying to reinterpret them in that way

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  255. Guus

    I've grown impatient and merged https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/246 (the 'getting started' page). People that disagree will have to take action.

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  314. moparisthebest

    Good move Guus taking action seems to be the hardest part :-)

  315. Guus

    moparisthebest: it really is not.

  316. moparisthebest

    It seems like it is though

  317. Zash


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  331. Neustradamus

    Guus: xmpp:... on the wiki for example

  332. Guus

    Neustradamus: that is not an answer to my question.

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  334. Neustradamus

    Guus: about the wiki?

  335. Neustradamus

    I have requested some years ago...

  336. Guus

    Neustradamus: nevermind.

  337. Neustradamus

    Maybe there will be an update soon, the problem will be resolved in part :)

  338. Guus

    Why do you say that?

  339. Guus

    Why would there be an update?

  340. Neustradamus


  341. Neustradamus


  342. Neustradamus

    MediaWiki has added XMPP URI in code (not all, no image) after some requests but the XMPP Wiki has not a "last version"...

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  344. Guus

    Neustradamus: I never asked about the xmpp uri scheme. This is something that you brought up.

  345. Neustradamus

    You speak about the wiki, I speak about the wiki too

  346. Guus

    Neustradamus: no, I am asking for one very specific feature to be added to the wiki. You attempt to hijack my effort by talking about something that *you* asked for instead. Apart from that they both relate to the wiki, they have nothing in common.

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  349. Neustradamus

    I have previously requested plugins adding too.

  350. Neustradamus

    I always do things to make things happen, even if it's impossible to move Openfire things, a lot of bugs exists for years ^^

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  360. Guus

    Neustradamus: you are not helping. You are being disruptive, and have no eye for anything else but what you, rightfully or not, think is important. The Openfire developers have, time and time again, tried to explain to you why some things in Openfire will *not* be modified as you suggest- but you either do not understand, do not agree, or do not listen at all. You do continue to pester people about it though, which is why go got banned, repeatedly, in the Ignite Realtime community. But do keep up the good work!

  361. jonasw

    uhm; maybe you want to discuss that elsewhere?

  362. Neustradamus

    For other guys who do not know, there are a lot of bugs in Openfire, one here: https://issues.igniterealtime.org/browse/OF-81 This bug has been opened by Guenther Niess, 11/16/09 04:03 PM Soon 8 years :) One day users, devs will be happy https://github.com/igniterealtime/Openfire/pull/405

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  367. Guus

    sorry jonasw, you're right.

  368. Neustradamus

    Impossible to speak on the open_chat muc room badly, but I have a lot of users/devs returns, you can see the history of the bug, the original fix version : 3.6.5, today Openfire is 4.1.3 without...

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