XSF Discussion - 2017-09-19

  1. Guus

    Anyone interested in attending T-DOSE (November 18/19, Eindhoven, NL)? Timothée and myself are going. I'm thinking of asking for an XMPP stand.

  2. Guus

    It's pretty reachable by public transportation. Trainstation nearby, and Eindhoven has an airport.

  3. ralphm

    A bit far for me.

  4. ralphm

    I'd need at least 20 minutes by bus, and then the walking.

  5. edhelas


  6. Guus

    Yeah, the walking. That's aweful.

  7. Guus

    although you could take a bus to the trainstation, and do 15 minutes walking from there.

  8. Guus

    (you might actually be faster on a bicycle?)

  9. Ge0rG

    Can't you take a bicycle on the train?

  10. Zash

    Why would they let you do something smart like that?

  11. Guus

    Ge0rG: yes, but not during rush hour.

  12. Guus

    Zash - it's pretty common over here. We love our bikes.

  13. Ge0rG

    I love my bike too, this is why I'm never using it.

  14. Guus

    note that this country is flatter than most mirrors.

  15. Guus

    I once tried to take my bike on a train in Sweden. Found out the annoying way that I had to ship it as cargo...

  16. SouL

    It helps when the country is amazinlgy flat :)

  17. Zash

    Our bike lanes do barrel rolls around the roads

  18. Zash

    Tunnels and bridges everywhere

  19. Ge0rG

    Sounds like my LAN.

  20. edhelas


  21. Guus

    so, I'm going to ask for a two-day stand at T-Dose. Who wants to join me there?

  22. ralphm

    I mostly use a Kickbike for commuting these days.

  23. intosi

    Which isn't a bike at all, according to the NS, right? #nowthatshackingtherules

  24. SouL

    I never heard of Kickbikes before... Do they have any benefit compared to bikes?

  25. edhelas

    compatible with NS trains :p

  26. SouL


  27. edhelas

    i had a foldable bike for a while for that reason as well

  28. jonasw


  29. SouL

    jonasw, I hope I'm not wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederlandse_Spoorwegen

  30. edhelas

    SouL you're not :)

  31. jonasw

    ah I see

  32. Guus

    people, I've created a FOSDEM and Summit 22 wiki page, to get organisation started. I'm assuming that we're going to do those? Does Board formally have to schedule the summit?

  33. Guus

    I'm hopign that people that were involved in its organization last time will again be availble to help out (if only because I don't know what I'm doing ;) )

  34. tux

    Will XSF be on 34c3?

  35. mimi89999

    When is it?

  36. Ge0rG

    tux: some members will

  37. tux

    Ge0rG: at least one, I know this much %)

  38. tux

    mimi89999: End of December in Leipzig/Germany

  39. Ge0rG

    tux: I think there were also plans to organize an assembly, check members archive from August, "SCAM: 34C3"

  40. tux


  41. Ge0rG

    cont'd in September

  42. mathieui

    tux, some members and board members will

  43. mathieui

    (reminder that I’ve still got early 34C3 coupons for XMPP people)

  44. Guus

    mathieui: could you create a quick page on the wiki for this? I've just done t-dose, fosdem and summit - really must get back to work

  45. mathieui


  46. Guus

    thanks. I'll not be attending, but am happy to faciilitate from a SCAM perspective (having a wiki page helps me remind of that)

  47. mathieui

    Hu, I don’t have a wiki account anymore

  48. tux

    (Why does the archive not list message IDs?)

  49. tux

    (or a re-send to me feature)

  50. Ge0rG

    mathieui: you could ask a wiki admin (me) if you provide your user name and email address via PM.

  51. jonasw

    tux, I think you can download mbox files

  52. jonasw

    hmm, aybe not

  53. jonasw

    we should see if there’s a way to enable that, that’d be a useful thing

  54. tux

    Ge0rG provided me with the message ID

  55. Ge0rG

    maybe we should also ask Board if the members archives are supposed to be public

  56. mathieui

    I don’t see why not

  57. mathieui

    https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/34C3 there, created (Guus, tux)

  58. edhelas

    damn, looks like I'm coming to the 34c3 :D

  59. mathieui

    I thought you already had a ticket :o

  60. Guus


  61. Ge0rG

    mathieui: [[Category:SCAM]] might be useful

  62. Guus

    yeah, I was just thinking of that

  63. Guus

    I didn't do that for the other events, but I should've

  64. mathieui


  65. Ge0rG

    I'm sure Daniel will go as well.

  66. Guus

    I did the other pages, tx

  67. mathieui

    Ge0rG, well, I added only people I already heard from

  68. mathieui

    I’m sure there are other people

  69. Ge0rG

    mathieui: Daniel was the one to ask on members@

  70. mathieui


  71. Guus

    I've added it to 'upcoming events' on the main wiki page.

  72. mathieui

    (I added daniel)

  73. Ge0rG

    I made stupid remarks.

  74. Ge0rG

    As always.

  75. mathieui

    Also, we (JabberFR) will probably end up having a booth at Capitole du Libre, a french event, can we request some SCAM material for this?

  76. Ge0rG

    mathieui: like stickers with overlapping archs?

  77. mathieui

    like that, yes

  78. Ge0rG

    I'd still love to see a sticker design with bear arms.

  79. Ge0rG

    Bruno the Bear hugging Zimpie the XMPP.

  80. Ge0rG

    Or is it Zimpy?

  81. tux

    Narf, sorry for the (now reverted) edit on the SCAM page. Computers are hard.

  82. Guus

    mathieui: yes, you can.

  83. mathieui

    We’ll get on it once our presence is confirmed then

  84. Guus


  85. tux

    same here

  86. Guus

    poke me personally, if the SCAM themed commchannels have not been established by then

  87. mathieui

    no problem

  88. tux

    oh...building psi-plus 1.2.71 packages for current Debian Stable was too easy ...

  89. moparisthebest

    dwd, didn't you say you implemented '368 in a server? and which one?

  90. moparisthebest

    the s2s part I mean

  91. daniel

    moparisthebest: metre

  92. Ge0rG

    I never can remember that name.

  93. daniel


  94. moparisthebest

    thanks daniel

  95. moparisthebest

    anyone know of any other s2s '368 implementations?

  96. moparisthebest

    ah jonasw so it looks like you mix weight/priority among both types of SRV records too, if I can still read python

  97. moparisthebest

    which is great, metre does too, and conversations

  98. jonasw

    it’s a SHOULD

  99. jonasw

    and yes, you still can

  100. moparisthebest

    yea it was a MUST but someone, I think it was ralphm, said a client might want to simply try '368 records first, and since a server can't tell anyway, changed it to SHOULD

  101. moparisthebest

    I was just curious if anyone implemented it without mixing

  102. daniel

    The slight problem I have with mixing is that it gives too much power to stupid server admins

  103. moparisthebest

    so far I've only seen non-stupid admins implement it, but yes I can see what you mean

  104. mimi89999

    daniel: Visit Conversations MUC please...

  105. Guus

    I LOL'd: https://pastebin.com/yRZgX5TP

  106. SouL

    Guus: haha, super funny

  107. SouL


  108. mimi89999

    Guus: Where was it?

  109. mimi89999

    Why not JID? 😂

  110. Guus

    That was in the Ignite Realtime community chat room

  111. edhelas

    call for participation for the 34c3 https://events.ccc.de/2017/09/19/34c3-call-for-participation-and-submission-guidelines/

  112. mathieui

    added it to the wiki page