XSF Discussion - 2017-09-19

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  109. Guus

    Anyone interested in attending T-DOSE (November 18/19, Eindhoven, NL)? Timothée and myself are going. I'm thinking of asking for an XMPP stand.

  110. Guus

    It's pretty reachable by public transportation. Trainstation nearby, and Eindhoven has an airport.

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  128. ralphm

    A bit far for me.

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  131. ralphm

    I'd need at least 20 minutes by bus, and then the walking.

  132. edhelas


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  135. Guus

    Yeah, the walking. That's aweful.

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  137. Guus

    although you could take a bus to the trainstation, and do 15 minutes walking from there.

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  140. Guus

    (you might actually be faster on a bicycle?)

  141. Ge0rG

    Can't you take a bicycle on the train?

  142. Zash

    Why would they let you do something smart like that?

  143. Guus

    Ge0rG: yes, but not during rush hour.

  144. Guus

    Zash - it's pretty common over here. We love our bikes.

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  146. Ge0rG

    I love my bike too, this is why I'm never using it.

  147. Guus

    note that this country is flatter than most mirrors.

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  150. Guus

    I once tried to take my bike on a train in Sweden. Found out the annoying way that I had to ship it as cargo...

  151. SouL

    It helps when the country is amazinlgy flat :)

  152. Zash

    Our bike lanes do barrel rolls around the roads

  153. Zash

    Tunnels and bridges everywhere

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  155. Ge0rG

    Sounds like my LAN.

  156. edhelas


  157. Guus

    so, I'm going to ask for a two-day stand at T-Dose. Who wants to join me there?

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  174. ralphm

    I mostly use a Kickbike for commuting these days.

  175. intosi

    Which isn't a bike at all, according to the NS, right? #nowthatshackingtherules

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  184. SouL

    I never heard of Kickbikes before... Do they have any benefit compared to bikes?

  185. edhelas

    compatible with NS trains :p

  186. SouL


  187. edhelas

    i had a foldable bike for a while for that reason as well

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  190. jonasw


  191. SouL

    jonasw, I hope I'm not wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederlandse_Spoorwegen

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  193. edhelas

    SouL you're not :)

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  197. jonasw

    ah I see

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  203. Guus

    people, I've created a FOSDEM and Summit 22 wiki page, to get organisation started. I'm assuming that we're going to do those? Does Board formally have to schedule the summit?

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  206. Guus

    I'm hopign that people that were involved in its organization last time will again be availble to help out (if only because I don't know what I'm doing ;) )

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  221. tux

    Will XSF be on 34c3?

  222. mimi89999

    When is it?

  223. Ge0rG

    tux: some members will

  224. tux

    Ge0rG: at least one, I know this much %)

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  226. tux

    mimi89999: End of December in Leipzig/Germany

  227. Ge0rG

    tux: I think there were also plans to organize an assembly, check members archive from August, "SCAM: 34C3"

  228. tux


  229. Ge0rG

    cont'd in September

  230. mathieui

    tux, some members and board members will

  231. mathieui

    (reminder that I’ve still got early 34C3 coupons for XMPP people)

  232. Guus

    mathieui: could you create a quick page on the wiki for this? I've just done t-dose, fosdem and summit - really must get back to work

  233. mathieui


  234. Guus

    thanks. I'll not be attending, but am happy to faciilitate from a SCAM perspective (having a wiki page helps me remind of that)

  235. mathieui

    Hu, I don’t have a wiki account anymore

  236. tux

    (Why does the archive not list message IDs?)

  237. tux

    (or a re-send to me feature)

  238. Ge0rG

    mathieui: you could ask a wiki admin (me) if you provide your user name and email address via PM.

  239. jonasw

    tux, I think you can download mbox files

  240. jonasw

    hmm, aybe not

  241. jonasw

    we should see if there’s a way to enable that, that’d be a useful thing

  242. tux

    Ge0rG provided me with the message ID

  243. Ge0rG

    maybe we should also ask Board if the members archives are supposed to be public

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  247. mathieui

    I don’t see why not

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  250. mathieui

    https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/34C3 there, created (Guus, tux)

  251. edhelas

    damn, looks like I'm coming to the 34c3 :D

  252. mathieui

    I thought you already had a ticket :o

  253. Guus


  254. Ge0rG

    mathieui: [[Category:SCAM]] might be useful

  255. Guus

    yeah, I was just thinking of that

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  257. Guus

    I didn't do that for the other events, but I should've

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  259. mathieui


  260. Ge0rG

    I'm sure Daniel will go as well.

  261. Guus

    I did the other pages, tx

  262. mathieui

    Ge0rG, well, I added only people I already heard from

  263. mathieui

    I’m sure there are other people

  264. Ge0rG

    mathieui: Daniel was the one to ask on members@

  265. mathieui


  266. Guus

    I've added it to 'upcoming events' on the main wiki page.

  267. mathieui

    (I added daniel)

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  269. Ge0rG

    I made stupid remarks.

  270. Ge0rG

    As always.

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  272. mathieui

    Also, we (JabberFR) will probably end up having a booth at Capitole du Libre, a french event, can we request some SCAM material for this?

  273. Ge0rG

    mathieui: like stickers with overlapping archs?

  274. mathieui

    like that, yes

  275. Ge0rG

    I'd still love to see a sticker design with bear arms.

  276. Ge0rG

    Bruno the Bear hugging Zimpie the XMPP.

  277. Ge0rG

    Or is it Zimpy?

  278. tux

    Narf, sorry for the (now reverted) edit on the SCAM page. Computers are hard.

  279. Guus

    mathieui: yes, you can.

  280. mathieui

    We’ll get on it once our presence is confirmed then

  281. Guus


  282. tux

    same here

  283. Guus

    poke me personally, if the SCAM themed commchannels have not been established by then

  284. mathieui

    no problem

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  322. tux

    oh...building psi-plus 1.2.71 packages for current Debian Stable was too easy ...

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  348. moparisthebest

    dwd, didn't you say you implemented '368 in a server? and which one?

  349. moparisthebest

    the s2s part I mean

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  351. daniel

    moparisthebest: metre

  352. Ge0rG

    I never can remember that name.

  353. daniel


  354. moparisthebest

    thanks daniel

  355. moparisthebest

    anyone know of any other s2s '368 implementations?

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  360. moparisthebest

    ah jonasw so it looks like you mix weight/priority among both types of SRV records too, if I can still read python

  361. moparisthebest

    which is great, metre does too, and conversations

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  363. jonasw

    it’s a SHOULD

  364. jonasw

    and yes, you still can

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  367. moparisthebest

    yea it was a MUST but someone, I think it was ralphm, said a client might want to simply try '368 records first, and since a server can't tell anyway, changed it to SHOULD

  368. moparisthebest

    I was just curious if anyone implemented it without mixing

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  372. daniel

    The slight problem I have with mixing is that it gives too much power to stupid server admins

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  374. moparisthebest

    so far I've only seen non-stupid admins implement it, but yes I can see what you mean

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  395. mimi89999

    daniel: Visit Conversations MUC please...

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  408. Guus

    I LOL'd: https://pastebin.com/yRZgX5TP

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  483. SouL

    Guus: haha, super funny

  484. SouL


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  494. mimi89999

    Guus: Where was it?

  495. mimi89999

    Why not JID? 😂

  496. Guus

    That was in the Ignite Realtime community chat room

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  552. edhelas

    call for participation for the 34c3 https://events.ccc.de/2017/09/19/34c3-call-for-participation-and-submission-guidelines/

  553. mathieui

    added it to the wiki page

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