XSF Discussion - 2017-10-08

Drugs strike again https://github.com/redsolution/xabber-android/issues/540#issuecomment-334990411 Good thing they don't also have a bitcoin SPV wallet integrated into xabber ;)

:-O

Maybe they can pay for not receiving spam then?

What a novel revenue model. I approve

And probably a good idea for a april 1th XEP

Flow: not novel. And not even funny, but fact: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/this-spam-service-will-charge-25-to-stop-spamming-you/

Ge0rG: I know, I was more thinking about the "integrated bitcoin wallet" idea, you know, improve usubablity to increase acceptance. our greatest weakness

Lol doesn't want it used for drugs, then says "Oh, if you ask me, integration to send bitcoin is more essential for Xabber than OMEMO."

moparisthebest: cmon, OMEMO is for junkies, bitcoin for potheads

Needles to say that I object the idea that OMEMO and Bitcoin are just tools for "donig illegal stuff"

Also OTR is probably better for ephemeral illegal conversations Flow

And you can use that over any chat system

Flow, moparisthebest, moparisthebest: of course....

Anyone wants to join a order of "OMEMO is for junkies" t-shirts? vanitasvitae maybe? ;)

Flow: i'm in!

Imagine that Nemo fish surrounded by syringes and with puke all over it.... Would make for a great shirt :D

vanitasvitae: I want that shirt

I wonder if I should get one too, being the most vocal opponent

Flow: there is an alternative explanation for the 80% drug users... Those are all IBR spam bots advertising drugs..

My impression though is that Conversations/OMEMO is primarily used by terrorists and organized crime.

drug addicts seems to be a very xabber specific thing

Then otr is for drugs?

daniel: are you still over the pond? You shouldn't be mentioning trigger words then...

Looks like it. Organized crime was a lot of pgp. Now they are switching over to omemo.

daniel: so you can target your audience more precisely

Ge0rG: I don't create the problem by talking about it

I wonder if we can motivate the ФСБ to go after xsndr.

And I'm sure 'they' are very aware of that fact

daniel: they are just looking for an excuse to jail you.

daniel, do you have stats about this btw

pep.: on how many of omemo users are either terrorists or part of organized crime? No. How on earth would one collect that

:)

Maybe making a user survey. If it works for the US immigration office...

Ge0rG, agreed, that would solve everything