XSF Discussion - 2017-10-08


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  105. Flow

    Drugs strike again https://github.com/redsolution/xabber-android/issues/540#issuecomment-334990411 Good thing they don't also have a bitcoin SPV wallet integrated into xabber ;)

  106. jonasw

    :-O

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  134. Ge0rG

    Maybe they can pay for not receiving spam then?

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  144. Flow

    What a novel revenue model. I approve

  145. Flow

    And probably a good idea for a april 1th XEP

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  156. Ge0rG

    Flow: not novel. And not even funny, but fact: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/this-spam-service-will-charge-25-to-stop-spamming-you/

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  165. Flow

    Ge0rG: I know, I was more thinking about the "integrated bitcoin wallet" idea, you know, improve usubablity to increase acceptance. our greatest weakness

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  167. moparisthebest

    Lol doesn't want it used for drugs, then says "Oh, if you ask me, integration to send bitcoin is more essential for Xabber than OMEMO."

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  181. Flow

    moparisthebest: cmon, OMEMO is for junkies, bitcoin for potheads

  182. Flow

    Needles to say that I object the idea that OMEMO and Bitcoin are just tools for "donig illegal stuff"

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  187. moparisthebest

    Also OTR is probably better for ephemeral illegal conversations Flow

  188. moparisthebest

    And you can use that over any chat system

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    Flow, moparisthebest, moparisthebest: of course....

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  203. Flow

    Anyone wants to join a order of "OMEMO is for junkies" t-shirts? vanitasvitae maybe? ;)

  204. vanitasvitae

    Flow: i'm in!

  205. vanitasvitae

    Imagine that Nemo fish surrounded by syringes and with puke all over it.... Would make for a great shirt :D

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  405. daniel

    vanitasvitae: I want that shirt

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  421. Ge0rG

    I wonder if I should get one too, being the most vocal opponent

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  423. Ge0rG

    Flow: there is an alternative explanation for the 80% drug users... Those are all IBR spam bots advertising drugs..

  424. daniel

    My impression though is that Conversations/OMEMO is primarily used by terrorists and organized crime.

  425. daniel

    drug addicts seems to be a very xabber specific thing

  426. Ge0rG

    Then otr is for drugs?

  427. Ge0rG

    daniel: are you still over the pond? You shouldn't be mentioning trigger words then...

  428. daniel

    Looks like it. Organized crime was a lot of pgp. Now they are switching over to omemo.

  429. zinid

    daniel: so you can target your audience more precisely

  430. daniel

    Ge0rG: I don't create the problem by talking about it

  431. Ge0rG

    I wonder if we can motivate the ФСБ to go after xsndr.

  432. daniel

    And I'm sure 'they' are very aware of that fact

  433. Ge0rG

    daniel: they are just looking for an excuse to jail you.

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  441. pep.

    daniel, do you have stats about this btw

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  443. daniel

    pep.: on how many of omemo users are either terrorists or part of organized crime? No. How on earth would one collect that

  444. pep.

    :)

  445. Ge0rG

    Maybe making a user survey. If it works for the US immigration office...

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  447. pep.

    Ge0rG, agreed, that would solve everything

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