What I tried to say was what happens when MAM is implemented to a server?
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Zash
Assuming there's an accompanying server-side message archive, then users can query it.
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zinid
guys, when pubsub#publish-options form definition will be fixed?
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zinid
or, if everyone is lazy doing this, where can I find definitions of every fields of pubsub#publish-options form
zinid
I recall Push, Persistent Storage, what else?
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jonasw
zinid, make a PR? ;-)
zinid
but I'm lazy
Flow
zinid: what is broken?
Flow
Anyway, I wonder if MIX shouldn't really be PubSub2. Persistent group chat requires PubSub at the lowest level, MIX could provide that, while additionally fixing PubSub for everyone else (while keeping the old spec around)
zinid
Flow: pubsub#publish-options doesn't define pubsub#persist_items defined in XEP-0223 and 'secret' (without pubsub# ???) defined in XEP-0357
Flow
define where? in xep60? don't we have a registry for that?
yes, preconditions must be registered to define the meaning of the precondition
Guus
in a certificate, what's the most appropriate value for "state or Province Name" for Paris?
Flow
Guus: does anyone care about the value of that field?
Guus
ÃŽle-de-France? Nothing?
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mimi89999
Keep that empty. Nobody cares.
Guus
Flow: I don't want to find out, which is why I'm asking for the most appropriate value :)
Guus
kk
mimi89999
But probably it is that... See other certs...
mimi89999
The one of OVH...
Guus
(I don't know of any other certs)
Guus
oh, paris probably has a website...
jonasw
this is how the gandi.net certificate looks:
CN = www.gandi.net
OU = COMODO EV SSL
OU = Ops
O = Gandi SAS
Object Identifier (2 5 4 9) = 63-65 Boulevard Massena
L = Paris
ST = Paris
Object Identifier (2 5 4 17) = 75013
C = FR
Object Identifier (2 5 4 15) = Private Organization
Object Identifier (1 3 6 1 4 1 311 60 2 1 3) = FR
Object Identifier (2 5 4 5) = 423 093 459 00042
jonasw
so apparently it’s simply "Paris"?
mimi89999
Lol
Guus
thanks guys :)
mimi89999
Certbot keeps that empty. Really nobody cares.
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zinid
Flow: whatever, I generate code from this form now: https://github.com/processone/xmpp/blob/master/specs/pubsub_publish_options.xdata
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zinid
secret without prefix 'pubsub#' looks odd though
Flow
I think 'push#secret' would be more to the point
jonasw
I agree
Flow
zinid, would be greate if you did an PR for the registry too
zinid
can we change the filed name?
Flow
https://github.com/xsf/registrar
Flow
zinid: Not without a namespace bump I fear
zinid
then let's don't do this
zinid
we have the same in some MUC forms, this is not a major problem
jonasw
we should have errata sections in XEPs where we can note things for the next Namespace bump
jonasw
re registrar: I bet that stuff is currently not updated on the website
Flow
jonasw, I once started https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XEP_and_RFC_Remarks
jonasw
yeah, nobody will look there when preparing a PR against a xep :)
Ge0rG
jonasw [09:56]:
> we should have errata sections in XEPs where we can note things for the next Namespace bump
There used to be wiki pages for each xep containing that information
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Guus
Who's going to be at the GSoC menter summit this weekend? Arc, Daniel, Edwin and me - anyone else?
Guus
we should meet up. I'll at least bring some stickers :)
Guus
Edwin and me are in the Sheraton
mimi89999
Guus: Bring stickers *to* XMPP.
Guus
?
intosi
Guus: +1 on the stickers.
mimi89999
> I'll at least bring some stickers :)
😉
mimi89999
The requests for adding stickers...
intosi
mimi89999: ah.
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Guus
Please note that my two-year-old kept me up all night, and I'm very likely to miss puns, sarcasm, and any other subtilities today.
mimi89999
Guus: Take some sleep then...
Guus
mimi89999: customers, deadlines.
Guus
my wife is actually very jealous of me going to the GSoC meeting. Not because of the trip, but because of the four days of hotel stay without the kids :)
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Guus
four nights of uninterrupted sleep... sheer bliss.
intosi
Four nights of fighting jetlag ;)
Guus
intosi: that probably sets in only after I return
mimi89999
2x no sleep...
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I'm usually much better going west to east than the other way around. Getting up early is easy, sleeping in is something I'm terrible at.
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Guus
I'll find out in a couple of days
Guus
oh, at least 4 guys from Jitsi will be there too
Guus
they're in the other hotel though
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Flow
Guus: If you meet Ingo, then please say hello from me
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Guus
Flow: not sure if he'll be there. by-the-by: the Jitsi guys all but finished merging all of his Smack 3->4 miration work.
Flow
\o/
Guus
it was a lot of work on Ingo's part, but the merge itself was relatively painless, from what I understand. There was one issue with certificate acepptance that they quickly resolved.
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Flow
not that it matters: but it appears to be not yet merged: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi/tree/smack4-2
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Guus
that's the desktop app I think? I think they were referring to their backend stuff.