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Link Mauve
There is this goldtransfer guy who’s still coming on jabber@conference.jabber.org after having spammed the room, could someone with enough rights ban him (if possible from the entire service)?
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Link Mauve
I’m only administrator of this room, so I have no power here.
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Guus
I'm not sure who's maintaining that server, sorry
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Link Mauve
Me neither, so I hope sending a message here will reach them.
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moparisthebest
postmaster@jabber.org ?
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moparisthebest
Xmpp doesn't have well defined addresses like that does it
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Zash
It does, actually. xmpp@
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moparisthebest
Hmm did not know, do servers implement that
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Zash
Do servers implement a standard mail box?
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Zash
moparisthebest: https://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#contact
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Zash
In XMPP itself there's {xep 0157}
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Bunneh
Zash: XEP-0157: Contact Addresses for XMPP Services (Informational, Active, 2007-01-31) See: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0157.html
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Guus
will add that to Openfire
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Guus
we record that stuff, but don't expose it
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Zash
That one ought to be strongly recommended for public/open services
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Link Mauve
It should be enabled by default in Prosody imo.
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Zash
Is it not?
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Link Mauve
It’s commented out by default. :/
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Zash
I don't think it should be enabled by default for random personal servers
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Link Mauve
Random personal servers which don’t want to publish that should be the ones that should be configured to disable it.
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Zash
Why?
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Link Mauve
Because most deployments will not change the defaults, which makes the whole network unable to contact their admins.
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Link Mauve
When I disabled unencrypted s2s, I tried to contact all of the servers’ admins about that move, and out of some 31 I could only find the contacts details of 5, and only one answered.
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Link Mauve
(They answered that nothing in the RFC forced them to support TLS, so it was our choice to break s2s with them.)
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Ge0rG
I think we should mandate a contact mailbox for IBR servers and servers with other public registration mechanisms.
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Zash
As a server dev, I much prefer if privacy decisions are taken by the admins.
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zinid
Zash: +1
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Zash
It could be changed to look at if IBR is enabled or not
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Zash
Currently, if enabled but not explicitly configured, it'll advertise the JIDs of configured admins
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Ge0rG
Zash: what about making IBR depend on a flag that enables publication of admin JIDs?
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Ge0rG
Should have pushed that into 0.10... 😕
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moparisthebest
Zash: couldn't prosody just forward messages to xmpp@domain to the server admin(s) by default?
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moparisthebest
Seems like it wouldn't be a privacy problem
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moparisthebest
Oh I see, discovery, yuck
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moparisthebest
So a server plugin could autogenerate those and forward them to admin
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Arc
if you're operating a mailserver, you're under no obligation to receive or deliver email, even if the other host is in full compliance
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Arc
many mailservers require cryptographic and anti-spam measures in order to accept, Google's especially