What process do I have to go through to get an account on the wiki?
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Kev
Find an admin, give them a mail address and ask nicely.
Kev
(I can do it Right Now)
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But only if you give me a mail address :)
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Kev
Or not. AFK.
jonasw
but Ge0rG can do it too, daniel.
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True
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Ge0rG
jonasw: re MIX, the section in https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0369.html#usecase-server-presence-update is pretty clear
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I think they could just send a refresh request whenever a user joins, too.
Ge0rG
jonasw: this is about after-the-join
jonasw
it doesn’t need that information, except for joins, does it?
jonasw
okay, wait, do you mean "join" like "joining a channel for the first time" or "join" like "a reconnecting client activiating MIX support"?
Ge0rG
"In normal operation a MIX participant's server will hold accurate presence status for the channel which it provides to clients when they are activated." - so my server will receive and cache (in RAM?) presence from all participants of all MIXes that all the abandoned user accounts on my server ever joined.
jonasw
because I meant the latter, sorry for being unclear
jonasw
it doesn’t have to.
Ge0rG
but that's what the XEP says.
jonasw
there’s no MUST in there
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or even SHOULD
jonasw
I see this as suggestion
jonasw
(can be useful to reduce the delay when activating clients)
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Kev
I'm not sure this is right.
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Ge0rG
Kev: "this"?
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Ge0rG
So can somebody elaborate please?
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Ge0rG
😐
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zinid
Server tracking presences from whole world, what a great idea
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Ge0rG
Maybe my reading of the xep is wrong?
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Kev
Sorry Ge0rG; I'm busy here. No, I mean that the subscriber's server shouldn't be needing to cache the presence of all occupants, so we need to look at taht.
Ge0rG
Kev: thanks. I'll write another large pile of feedback soon, not yet sure whether to the list or just to Steve
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jonasw
Ge0rG, to the list if it’s not editorial, please
Ge0rG
jonasw: 👍
Ge0rG
So I've finally read and understood the relevant parts of 313
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Flow
Ge0rG, looking forward to your feedback on MAM
Ge0rG
Flow: pretty well written, except for my pet peeve on what exactly to archive
Ge0rG, are you asking for precise rules on what to archive? Do we need that (now)?
Ge0rG
Flow: yes I am. I think we need them as part of message routing 2.0, which can be done after advancing 313
Flow
I'm not sure why those rules are important, besides optimizing the archives size
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Consistency of what will be seen by your client
jonasw
*clients
Ge0rG
Try to debug a user's "messages are lost sometimes" issue and you will understand
jonasw
Flow, the archive rules are inconsistent with the carbon rules, which leads to interesting differences between what’s seen by devices depending on the time ranges in which they’re online
Ge0rG
I'd like to see error responses to archived messages in the archive as well, so I can see on my other/ reconnected client that a message was bounced
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Ge0rG
You need to ask the user half a dozen questions about their exact deployment before even guessing the possible cause...
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Flow
got ir
Flow
*it
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Guus
We're short on xsf board candidates for next yeat! No one else interested? Know anyone that might be interested?
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Only a few more hours until the application deadline expires.
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moparisthebest
Memberbot will have to be modified to accept write in candidates then we'll have to conscript someone
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MattJ
Anyone free to last-minute recreate my wiki account? (MattJ - mwild1@gmail.com)
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Kev
Done.
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Link Mauve
For anyone who thought I would procrastinate too much, I made it!
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Zash
Successful procrastination?
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Link Mauve
I’d say more successful fight against it. ^^
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Wow, we've got more candidates for council than slots. This will be an interesting time
moparisthebest
Aw no conscription...
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Ge0rG
Do we need to run an electron rally now? 😀
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Holger
I'd also appreciate a new wiki account (I guess that got lost during the crash?) ... holger - holger@zedat.fu-berlin.de