XSF Discussion - 2017-11-17

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08:36:19 Ge0rG marc: I'm with jonasw here, the basic flow is nice, but I would omit password entry. Also it should automatically add the inviter to the roster.
08:36:57 jonasw Ge0rG, writing up the XEP and working on that seems reasonable at this stage though
08:38:00 Ge0rG marc: I'm very short on time, but I would really like to proof read your proposal. Maybe the PARS XEP would be a good framework to copy from, and I'd love to reuse the xml elements from there 😉
08:38:10 Ge0rG jonasw: yes please
08:38:37 Ge0rG jonasw: we could easily just use an auto generated password on the client side
08:38:48 jonasw Ge0rG, you would have to be able to recover/change that though
08:39:18 Ge0rG jonasw: yaxim does that already, and conversations too
08:39:40 jonasw random password magic?
08:39:56 Ge0rG jonasw: exactly
08:39:59 jonasw crazy
08:43:15 Ge0rG jonasw: it just works.
08:43:19 jonasw yeah
08:43:34 Ge0rG jonasw: the only problem is I need to replace `[Repeate password]` with `[X] Show password`
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09:20:59 marc Ge0rG: yes, but password generation shouldn't be a part of this XEP, right?
09:21:32 jonasw I think it might be part of the "Usability Considerations" or "User Experience Considerations" section some have been adding to their XEPs recently
09:21:38 jonasw (it’s not in the template thoguh)
09:24:50 marc Yeah, I can integrate this. We should consider an extra XEP for it
09:25:00 jonasw maybe, maybe not
09:25:32 jonasw I’d focus on the protocol flow for invitation and registration first, as you said, it doesn’t matter for the protocol how the password is determined (user input vs. random)
09:25:52 marc Yes, exactly
09:26:37 marc Because there a multiple ways to overcome this issue
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13:25:27 Tobias https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.security.policy/LM1SpKHJ-oc and there goes StartCom
13:26:06 Zash It ded?
13:26:08 Guus goes? wasn't it gone?
13:26:22 Guus oh, out-of-business now
13:26:46 Guus "Due to some comments and decisions made by the Mozilla community" <-- yeah, no.
13:27:53 Guus or does that refer to the re-inclusion process?
13:28:05 Tobias probably
13:28:25 Guus whatever. Sadly, it'll now be harder to figure out where the same persons (applying the same business practices) will end up.
13:29:09 Zash Is there some reason why there seems to be a bunch of (number).cn things?
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13:34:26 dwd Zash, "360" in this context is 360° security, a marketing term for fuck knows what.
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13:39:26 intosi Cuz we likes them circles.
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22:18:00 edhelas does the XSF has a Twitter account ? I can't find it on the website
22:18:30 SamWhited https://twitter.com/xmpp
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22:18:58 edhelas ah yeah, I was looking for @xsf :p
22:19:33 Guus I think there actually is one
22:19:35 Guus but almost unused
22:19:39 Guus I ran into it the other day
22:20:04 SamWhited We seem to like to allocate a ton of rooms, twitters, mailing lists, etc. even though we don't have enough people to make one feel overcrowded
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22:29:16 SamWhited TIL
22:29:29 Zash Does it have a purpose?
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