XSF Discussion - 2017-11-17


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  259. Ge0rG

    marc: I'm with jonasw here, the basic flow is nice, but I would omit password entry. Also it should automatically add the inviter to the roster.

  260. jonasw

    Ge0rG, writing up the XEP and working on that seems reasonable at this stage though

  261. Ge0rG

    marc: I'm very short on time, but I would really like to proof read your proposal. Maybe the PARS XEP would be a good framework to copy from, and I'd love to reuse the xml elements from there 😉

  262. Ge0rG

    jonasw: yes please

  263. Ge0rG

    jonasw: we could easily just use an auto generated password on the client side

  264. jonasw

    Ge0rG, you would have to be able to recover/change that though

  265. Ge0rG

    jonasw: yaxim does that already, and conversations too

  266. jonasw

    random password magic?

  267. Ge0rG

    jonasw: exactly

  268. jonasw

    crazy

  269. Ge0rG

    jonasw: it just works.

  270. jonasw

    yeah

  271. Ge0rG

    jonasw: the only problem is I need to replace `[Repeate password]` with `[X] Show password`

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  285. marc

    Ge0rG: yes, but password generation shouldn't be a part of this XEP, right?

  286. jonasw

    I think it might be part of the "Usability Considerations" or "User Experience Considerations" section some have been adding to their XEPs recently

  287. jonasw

    (it’s not in the template thoguh)

  288. marc

    Yeah, I can integrate this. We should consider an extra XEP for it

  289. jonasw

    maybe, maybe not

  290. jonasw

    I’d focus on the protocol flow for invitation and registration first, as you said, it doesn’t matter for the protocol how the password is determined (user input vs. random)

  291. marc

    Yes, exactly

  292. marc

    Because there a multiple ways to overcome this issue

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  427. Tobias

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.security.policy/LM1SpKHJ-oc and there goes StartCom

  428. Zash

    It ded?

  429. Guus

    goes? wasn't it gone?

  430. Guus

    oh, out-of-business now

  431. Guus

    "Due to some comments and decisions made by the Mozilla community" <-- yeah, no.

  432. Guus

    or does that refer to the re-inclusion process?

  433. Tobias

    probably

  434. Guus

    whatever. Sadly, it'll now be harder to figure out where the same persons (applying the same business practices) will end up.

  435. Zash

    Is there some reason why there seems to be a bunch of (number).cn things?

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  439. dwd

    Zash, "360" in this context is 360° security, a marketing term for fuck knows what.

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  441. intosi

    Cuz we likes them circles.

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  632. edhelas

    does the XSF has a Twitter account ? I can't find it on the website

  633. SamWhited

    https://twitter.com/xmpp

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  635. edhelas

    ah yeah, I was looking for @xsf :p

  636. Guus

    I think there actually is one

  637. Guus

    but almost unused

  638. Guus

    I ran into it the other day

  639. SamWhited

    We seem to like to allocate a ton of rooms, twitters, mailing lists, etc. even though we don't have enough people to make one feel overcrowded

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  641. Guus

    @xmppfoundation

  642. SamWhited

    TIL

  643. Zash

    Does it have a purpose?

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