XSF Discussion - 2017-11-17

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Ge0rG 08:36:19
marc: I'm with jonasw here, the basic flow is nice, but I would omit password entry. Also it should automatically add the inviter to the roster.
jonasw 08:36:57
Ge0rG, writing up the XEP and working on that seems reasonable at this stage though
Ge0rG 08:38:00
marc: I'm very short on time, but I would really like to proof read your proposal. Maybe the PARS XEP would be a good framework to copy from, and I'd love to reuse the xml elements from there 😉
Ge0rG 08:38:10
jonasw: yes please
Ge0rG 08:38:37
jonasw: we could easily just use an auto generated password on the client side
jonasw 08:38:48
Ge0rG, you would have to be able to recover/change that though
Ge0rG 08:39:18
jonasw: yaxim does that already, and conversations too
jonasw 08:39:40
random password magic?
Ge0rG 08:39:56
jonasw: exactly
jonasw 08:39:59
crazy
Ge0rG 08:43:15
jonasw: it just works.
jonasw 08:43:19
yeah
Ge0rG 08:43:34
jonasw: the only problem is I need to replace `[Repeate password]` with `[X] Show password`
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marc 09:20:59
Ge0rG: yes, but password generation shouldn't be a part of this XEP, right?
jonasw 09:21:32
I think it might be part of the "Usability Considerations" or "User Experience Considerations" section some have been adding to their XEPs recently
jonasw 09:21:38
(it’s not in the template thoguh)
marc 09:24:50
Yeah, I can integrate this. We should consider an extra XEP for it
jonasw 09:25:00
maybe, maybe not
jonasw 09:25:32
I’d focus on the protocol flow for invitation and registration first, as you said, it doesn’t matter for the protocol how the password is determined (user input vs. random)
marc 09:25:52
Yes, exactly
marc 09:26:37
Because there a multiple ways to overcome this issue
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Tobias 13:25:27
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.security.policy/LM1SpKHJ-oc and there goes StartCom
Zash 13:26:06
It ded?
Guus 13:26:08
goes? wasn't it gone?
Guus 13:26:22
oh, out-of-business now
Guus 13:26:46
"Due to some comments and decisions made by the Mozilla community" <-- yeah, no.
Guus 13:27:53
or does that refer to the re-inclusion process?
Tobias 13:28:05
probably
Guus 13:28:25
whatever. Sadly, it'll now be harder to figure out where the same persons (applying the same business practices) will end up.
Zash 13:29:09
Is there some reason why there seems to be a bunch of (number).cn things?
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dwd 13:34:26
Zash, "360" in this context is 360° security, a marketing term for fuck knows what.
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intosi 13:39:26
Cuz we likes them circles.
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edhelas 22:18:00
does the XSF has a Twitter account ? I can't find it on the website
SamWhited 22:18:30
https://twitter.com/xmpp
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edhelas 22:18:58
ah yeah, I was looking for @xsf :p
Guus 22:19:33
I think there actually is one
Guus 22:19:35
but almost unused
Guus 22:19:39
I ran into it the other day
SamWhited 22:20:04
We seem to like to allocate a ton of rooms, twitters, mailing lists, etc. even though we don't have enough people to make one feel overcrowded
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@xmppfoundation
SamWhited 22:29:16
TIL
Zash 22:29:29
Does it have a purpose?
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