XSF Discussion - 2017-12-01

SamWhited, that’s what I meant by "are you sure you’re looking at the right table" :)

Who here has been around forever? :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=XMPP_Standards_Foundation&action=edit&section=1 has a note that it should be expanded. If someone could fill in some of the missing history of the XSF, and remove the 'needs expending' label, that'd be highly appreciated.

can’t we link to the history page on the website?

(do we have such a page?)

but, no. We can reference it, but the article on wikipedia should be self-containing, I think.

oh, that’s wikipedia

I thought it was our wiki

(I didn’t click and misread the URL)

Yeah, I was attempting to improve the public facing description of ourselves.

@iteam: I soon™ have a Dockerfile which builds a container which has a working xmppoke command (the backend for the xmpp.net thing)

what’s missing for the full xmpp.net thing is: the PHP-based frontend and a postgresql database where xmppoke dumps its results

I feel that these two should be different containers though

(is there an iteam-MUC which is more approriate?)

awesome

!

and yes, but I don't recall if it's open

try: iteam@ on this service

posted update to members@, hopefully somebody will be willing to take over the PHP part :)

Php? Where? I love php

I sense sarcasm

nono, touched-it-last rules now apply. Daniel's it.

kidding aside: many thanks for taking this on jonasw!

No I was only half kidding. I'm actually fine with PHP. I used it a lot when I was younger. And I would prefer it any time over node.js or what ever kids are doing these days. I can have a look later

I initally stopped reading that mail at the word docker though...

daniel, my way of coping with docker is treating Dockerfiles as a lightweight way to write down recipes to create a system and ignore how it is actually executed :-)

Isn't that exactly what they are?

yeah

my way of coping with docker is to not use docker

I think xmppoke is exactly justification for why docker exists

oh yes

holy cow yes

I also learnt to find it convenient to just do a docker run -it ubuntu:16.04 /bin/bash when somebody has an issue with something on ubuntu :)

docker is where bloat meets cloud, right?

daniel, would you give it a shot, despite docker? :)

jonasw, thanks for the work on xmpp.net

Yes, I was reading the email now

you’re welcome

jonasw, I know how to setup nginx + php-fpm , just nothing about docker, I'm sure that's completely unhelpful but meh

wait the xmpp wiki runs php can't that just be used?

If all that's needed is something that runs PHP, I can trivially make a container for that in a few minutes.

Is it?

Kev, I think it’d be an amazing start

some dockerfile with nginx and php set up

I may be able to figure out the rest from there

Remind me next week and I'll have a look. I'm running out of time to do this week's stuff at the moment.

(my attempts with nginx and php all failed and a chickened out back to apache2 last I tried)

sure

maybe someone else steps up in the meantime :)

jonasw: oh you need someone to create a docker that runs php. I initally thought you needed someone to fix a script or something

daniel, actually it needs someone who sets up a docker running php+nginx and the xmppoke-frontend, which might involve fixing PHP things

a docker compose/stack that runs php is pretty standard

jonasw: assuming that there are plenty php webservers (nginx vs apache doesn't matter, I assume) out there: might be as easy as writing a docker file on top of a preexisting one?

Guus, apache is much more resource-heavy, I’d avoid that for a docker container, considering that the xmpp server already runs a bunch of those

mathieui, I have no idea of docker compose or stack

jonasw, essentially "get existing images, glue them together in a standard way, and mount your code as a volume"

the only pain point in the database

https://hub.docker.com/_/php/ <-- seach for 'with apache'

Guus, I would get separate fpm & webserver containers

if that's a two-line fix, sod the additional resoruces for the moment.

mathieui: I know nothing! I'm googling my way around.

mathieui, "mount your code as a volume", I can imagine that this won’t fly with iteam

I have countless PHP things deployed via Docker, doing this for xmpp.net if that's all that's required should be straightforward.

Kev, the wiki thing was actually a good hint, where’s the Dockerfile for the wiki?

That's not our own Dockerfile.

okay

all our Dockerfiles are in our github repo

anyways, looking forward for somebody to take that on

jonasw, you can also build an image with your code on top, but it means rebuilding it everytime you change the code

mathieui, I’m aware of that

of the latter I mean

(I mean, I’m precisely debugging some icky docker+php stuff at work right now)

https://hub.docker.com/r/richarvey/nginx-php-fpm/ <-- would that work? Seems to be able to pull the website code from git.

wth, why does that build nginx from source

dunno, don't care.

https://github.com/richarvey/nginx-php-fpm/blob/master/docs/config_flags.md <-- seems to be able to pull the php project from bitbucket too

Someone said that's how you are supposed to do it