jonaswbut that’s the normative reference for things which currently work in XEPs, as everything gets validated against that IIRC
marcI need a tag to make an indention like a list but without bullet points
jonaswI don’t think we have that
marcBecause it would look nice ;)
jonaswwhat are you going to use it for?
marcTo "highlight" something
marcHard to describe ;)
jonaswwould be useful if you could be more specific
jonaswthere are example blocks for examples which may be useful
marcYeah, but it's an URI and not XML
jonaswdoes that matter?
jonaswI don’t think that examples necessarily have to be XML
marcYeah, but the example block is very big for just a single line :D
jonaswmaybe just a code block without example?
jonaswlike I used for the test vectors here: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0390.html#algorithm-example-simple
marcHm, somehow it looks strange
marcDoesn't matter for now :D
marcjonasw, Can I just copy paste from other XEPs?
jonaswwhat do you want to copy&paste?
jonaswciting would be more appropriate in many cases (use &xep1234; for that)
marcPuh, but this would make reading this XEP very stressful
jonaswthe issue would be to keep things up-to-date if wording in the referenced xep changes, so I’d discourage that.
marcI would copy some parts from https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0379.html#link_transmission for example
jonaswthat is a prime example where quoting would be more appropriate
jonaswthat is a prime example where citing would be more appropriate
Ge0rGjonasw: I've heard that
jonaswGe0rG, what’dya hear?
Ge0rGjonasw: you criticizing my XEP :P
jonaswI can’t english today.
Ge0rGI can't today.
marcGe0rG, what do you think? quoting or copying?
Ge0rGmarc: what do you want to present? the returned URL?
marcGe0rG, provide information about the landing page
Ge0rGmarc: <div class="example"> :P
jonaswI think you are confused.
jonaswGe0rG, the current question is about whether marc shall copy the linked section from your XEP or rather cite it.
marcProbably you should read the backlog once again :D
jonaswI think citing is more appropriate
jonaswthis isn’t about markup anymore, even though I admit I thought that too at first.
Ge0rGmarc: I'm not opposed to you copying my text where it makes sense, but I think it would be better to write "An out-of-band presentation of the xmpp: URI according to XEP-0379 §3.3 [...] Example here: [...]"
jonaswI’d not go as far as "according to", but "like for example described in", because it’s not going to be normative
marcWell, I'll just copy it for now because I also changed some parts
marcWe can remove redundant parts later
Ge0rGmarc: if you change parts, please PR them against the original
Ge0rGmarc: nothing is worse than a slightly deviating copy.
marcGe0rG, well, we have to discuss my changes anyway
marcGe0rG, so let's do this before I PR something ;)
jonaswI agree with Ge0rG
Ge0rGmarc: you can PR your new wording against 379 before copy&pasting from it.
jonaswespecially if the XEPs are going to interop ...
Ge0rGmarc: actually, what you just wrote made me change my mind. PLEASE DO NOT COPY&PASTE.
Ge0rGEspecially not COPY&PASTE&CHANGE.
marcGe0rG, I would recommend that you state something like "the landing page SHOULD contain the XMPP URI in the form of a QR code" in your XEP
marcIt is possible to reference to a specific section of a XEP?
Ge0rGmarc: if you open the link on your mobile device, how is a qr code going to help?
marcGe0rG, if _you_ open it on your mobile phone it doesn't help
marcBut if you open it on a desktop client it helps
marcOr I open it because I generated it and my client doesn't generate QR codes for some reason
marcdesktop client -> desktop e-mail client or something like that
Ge0rGmarc: is there an xep that defines qr codes for xmpp?
marcGe0rG, just encode the XMPP URI
marcworks like a charm
Ge0rGmarc: not what I asked.
marcGe0rG, okay: no :P
Ge0rGmarc: so you want me to create a precedent?
marcGe0rG, I don't know if we need a XEP for it
marcGe0rG, you could also ask the other way around: how to use the invitation fpr your mobile device if the invitee opens the invitation on a desktop client and you only have a XMPP URI link
marcGe0rG, we could also write a short XEP but I don't know if that's worth the effort
Ge0rGmarc: yes, a qr code is just the right thing there. The question is whether the developer of the landing page can make that leap without text in the xep