Ge0rGEverytime I'm on mobile, my desktop client fills the (fortunately invisible to others) log with dozens of those:
<--- You (Ge0rG) left the room (the MUC server is not responding)
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Ge0rGIt would be great to have an XMPP prober that, given a domain name, verifies that all advertised SRV records work.
Ge0rGjonasw: ^
moparisthebestxmpp.net just needs 368 support right?
Ge0rGmoparisthebest: except I want it to be a lean thing I can integrate into my monitoring.
Ge0rGAnd not a full-fledged security tester
moparisthebestah right
Ge0rGnot saying it wouldn't be good to have that in xmpp.net
moparisthebestthat wouldn't be too hard I guess
moparisthebestdefine 'work', like you can fully log in?
Ge0rGmoparisthebest: yes, that should be sufficient.
Ge0rGSo it can send me an XMPP message when the server is down. Oh. Wait.
moparisthebestwell, you interpret the lack of a message as a problem
moparisthebestI've set that kind of thing up before, but it always results in me going, wait a second, I don't think I've gotten a message in 3 days!
Ge0rGNo, I was just kidding. It should send me an email, obviously.
Ge0rGMeh. Some retarded client set all my bookmarks to autojoin=true and deleted the MUC passwords.
Ge0rGIt must've been ChatSecure, because Monal didn't join any MUCs
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Ge0rGIt also deleted all the nicknames. Sigh.
Ge0rGYou can't beta test a client properly without a production account, but sometimes it just f***s up everything.
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moparisthebestand if you are like me, you could recover that from database backups, but it's harder to do that than to fix things manually 😛
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Ge0rGmoparisthebest: actually it's not harder.
Ge0rG`borg extract prosody-backup::yaxim.boerde.de-2018-01-08 var/lib/prosody/yax%2eim/private/georg.dat` and done
moparisthebestah not bad
moparisthebestmines all in mysql I think, someplace
Ge0rGExcept I would need to log out all my clients, it seems.
Ge0rGI'm sure there is some prosodyctl magic for reloading my bookmarks.
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Ge0rGAh, much better now.
moparisthebestlooking over that SRV email looks like someone accidentally hit my --verbose flag, ouch...
Ge0rGSo I've mirrored my domains to afraid.org/secondary. Now all that's missing is updated NS records.
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jonaswGe0rG, I thought about such a check, it’s somewhere on my todo list
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Ge0rGjonasw: can I bother you enough to push it higher on the list? ;)
jonaswGe0rG, currently, the topmost item is "pass the two exam-like things today". that’s kinda pinned.
jonaswI also don’t like checks which require credentials
Ge0rGjonasw: good luck with the exams, then! :)
jonaswthanks
jonaswthose types of checks escalate quickly. you’d want one which checks the certificate and one which proceeds even if the certificate check fails to see if and which SASL is offered; a third check would try the login, but only if the certificate check passes. and maybe more things I didn’t think of, such as "test that a message can be sent" or so.
Ge0rGjonasw: I already have a sophisticated shell-script doing the cert checking ;)
jonaswfor all SRV records? ;-)
jonaswalso, wanna have
Ge0rGjonasw: no, for hardcoded domain:host:port n-tuples
jonaswaww
jonaswso no nagios-compatible check?
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Ge0rGjonasw: https://op-co.de/tmp/certwatch.sh
Ge0rGjonasw: it's a daily cron job. Sufficient to remind me two weeks in advance.
jonaswhm
jonaswoh dear, no mailing, you exploit the cronjob error handling? :D
jonaswthat wouldn’t wrok at all for me, I only glance over my cronjobs because LE is so verbose
jonaswwill look into something more nagiostic
Ge0rGjonasw: wait, that's how cron is supposed to work! If something unexpected happens, generate a mail
jonaswyeah.
jonaswtell that to LE
jonasw
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Certificate not yet due for renewal; no action taken.
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jonaswsuper-useful and not-at-all-noisy
Ge0rGLE: you suck!
Ge0rGjonasw: done.
jonaswdid you give the finger?
jonaswin the classic torvalds-move?
Ge0rGNo, I merely wrote a 'groupchat' message
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Ge0rGI like the server name of https://podupti.me/ - Somebody should grab `jabberupti.me`.
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Guus(go for it?)
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ZashGo forth and registert it
ZashBut allow me to scoff at the sillyness of domain hacks.
Guusthou shall be allowed.
SouL`xmppupti.me`
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Guusregister upti.me and use subdomains?
Kevmyupti.me
GuusKev, I'm assuming that you'd hook that into a sensor that detects when you last left your bed?
Ge0rG.me domains are 5Ł per year with my registrar.
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Guusthat's 1.19 euro?
SouLGuus, damn, I would love to do that haha
Guusand you have not registered all of them, why?
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Ge0rGDamn Unicode. I meant £.
intosiPardon my ignorance, but what's an Ł?
Guuszloty
intosiGoogle tells me Litecoin, but surely 1000 for a domain is quite expensive ;)
Guus(which I had to google)
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intosiGlad Ge0rG cleared it up though :)
Ge0rGI think I still own some LTC, though.
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Guusah, actually, zloty is supposed to be zł. My Google powers suck.
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Ge0rGwow, it's actually worth 170€.
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tuxLtc has 170€? I need to find my Ltc!
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Ge0rGtux: beyond 200€ actually, I just only have 0.8Ł
tuxUah
Ge0rGI wonder if there'll be another BTC peak. I still need to sell my bits.
SouLLucky guys
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AlexI will never understand that bitcoin hype. We are fighting global worming, and wasting tons of energy for mining dome virtual coins :(
GuusAlex: when I suggested that, someone retorted with: "bitcoin is supposed to replace, not add to, something." I'm not saying that I agree, but it's an interesting thought.
Guus(the implication being that the financial sector uses a _lot_ of energy too)
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AlexGuus: ya agree
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Guusthat said: I don't own any :)
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Ge0rGI only own BTC because I mined some during a cold winter
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jonaswAlex, +1
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edhelasyup same here
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moparisthebestwhat is the other web xmpp thing like movim but not movim?
Zashhow much like movim is that?
Zashjappix? (also php xmpp web thing)
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danielmoparisthebest: Salut a toi?
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danielPossible spelling mistakes included because u don't speak French
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moparisthebestI think it was jappix, which turns out it's abandoned so that makes choosing easy
moparisthebestOther one looks interesting though
moparisthebestThanks!
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mathieuiiyeah, jappix was abandoned and edhelas is currently hosting both the jappix.org and movim.eu servers
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edhelasyup
edhelasstill in contact with Vanaryon, the creator of Jappix as well :)
moparisthebestyea I was looking into that and remembered there was another but couldn't remember the name 🙂
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Alex you are looking for a webclient?
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moparisthebestgot any suggestions?
Alexcandy, opentalk
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Guusinverse?
Alexjabber.ru is running a fork of opentalk which is pretty nice
Guusor did JC eventually _not_ brand the full-page converse variant?
moparisthebestI thought inverse was just an instance of converse
Guusconverse.js is typically a client in some corner of a website. inverse (using the same code as converse.js) transforms that to a full-page client.
Guushttps://xmpp.org/software/clients.html doesn't list opentalk :(
edhelasneither Movim
mathieuiiedhelas, make PR then
Alexya, many projects killed by our policy which forces an annuial update
Guus'the culling'
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moparisthebestDave Cridland, re council agenda, no vote on last call of XEP-0387: XMPP Compliance Suites 2018 ?
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Dave Cridlandmoparisthebest, Hmmm.
moparisthebestDave Cridland, looking at trello it's in the 'awaiting list votes', tab thing
moparisthebestexcept Kev I think said it needed new votes from new council
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SouLAlex, opentalk? Do you have a link, please? Seems I cannot find any client named like that.