Everytime I'm on mobile, my desktop client fills the (fortunately invisible to others) log with dozens of those:
<--- You (Ge0rG) left the room (the MUC server is not responding)
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It would be great to have an XMPP prober that, given a domain name, verifies that all advertised SRV records work.
Ge0rG
jonasw: ^
moparisthebest
xmpp.net just needs 368 support right?
Ge0rG
moparisthebest: except I want it to be a lean thing I can integrate into my monitoring.
Ge0rG
And not a full-fledged security tester
moparisthebest
ah right
Ge0rG
not saying it wouldn't be good to have that in xmpp.net
moparisthebest
that wouldn't be too hard I guess
moparisthebest
define 'work', like you can fully log in?
Ge0rG
moparisthebest: yes, that should be sufficient.
Ge0rG
So it can send me an XMPP message when the server is down. Oh. Wait.
moparisthebest
well, you interpret the lack of a message as a problem
moparisthebest
I've set that kind of thing up before, but it always results in me going, wait a second, I don't think I've gotten a message in 3 days!
Ge0rG
No, I was just kidding. It should send me an email, obviously.
Ge0rG
Meh. Some retarded client set all my bookmarks to autojoin=true and deleted the MUC passwords.
Ge0rG
It must've been ChatSecure, because Monal didn't join any MUCs
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It also deleted all the nicknames. Sigh.
Ge0rG
You can't beta test a client properly without a production account, but sometimes it just f***s up everything.
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moparisthebest
and if you are like me, you could recover that from database backups, but it's harder to do that than to fix things manually 😛
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moparisthebest: actually it's not harder.
Ge0rG
`borg extract prosody-backup::yaxim.boerde.de-2018-01-08 var/lib/prosody/yax%2eim/private/georg.dat` and done
moparisthebest
ah not bad
moparisthebest
mines all in mysql I think, someplace
Ge0rG
Except I would need to log out all my clients, it seems.
Ge0rG
I'm sure there is some prosodyctl magic for reloading my bookmarks.
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Ah, much better now.
moparisthebest
looking over that SRV email looks like someone accidentally hit my --verbose flag, ouch...
Ge0rG
So I've mirrored my domains to afraid.org/secondary. Now all that's missing is updated NS records.
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Ge0rG, I thought about such a check, it’s somewhere on my todo list
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jonasw: can I bother you enough to push it higher on the list? ;)
jonasw
Ge0rG, currently, the topmost item is "pass the two exam-like things today". that’s kinda pinned.
jonasw
I also don’t like checks which require credentials
Ge0rG
jonasw: good luck with the exams, then! :)
jonasw
thanks
jonasw
those types of checks escalate quickly. you’d want one which checks the certificate and one which proceeds even if the certificate check fails to see if and which SASL is offered; a third check would try the login, but only if the certificate check passes. and maybe more things I didn’t think of, such as "test that a message can be sent" or so.
Ge0rG
jonasw: I already have a sophisticated shell-script doing the cert checking ;)
jonasw
for all SRV records? ;-)
jonasw
also, wanna have
Ge0rG
jonasw: no, for hardcoded domain:host:port n-tuples
jonasw
aww
jonasw
so no nagios-compatible check?
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jonasw: https://op-co.de/tmp/certwatch.sh
Ge0rG
jonasw: it's a daily cron job. Sufficient to remind me two weeks in advance.
jonasw
hm
jonasw
oh dear, no mailing, you exploit the cronjob error handling? :D
jonasw
that wouldn’t wrok at all for me, I only glance over my cronjobs because LE is so verbose
jonasw
will look into something more nagiostic
Ge0rG
jonasw: wait, that's how cron is supposed to work! If something unexpected happens, generate a mail
jonasw
yeah.
jonasw
tell that to LE
jonasw
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Certificate not yet due for renewal; no action taken.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
jonasw
super-useful and not-at-all-noisy
Ge0rG
LE: you suck!
Ge0rG
jonasw: done.
jonasw
did you give the finger?
jonasw
in the classic torvalds-move?
Ge0rG
No, I merely wrote a 'groupchat' message
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I like the server name of https://podupti.me/ - Somebody should grab `jabberupti.me`.
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Guus
(go for it?)
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Zash
Go forth and registert it
Zash
But allow me to scoff at the sillyness of domain hacks.
Guus
thou shall be allowed.
SouL
`xmppupti.me`
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Guus
register upti.me and use subdomains?
Kev
myupti.me
Guus
Kev, I'm assuming that you'd hook that into a sensor that detects when you last left your bed?
Ge0rG
.me domains are 5Ł per year with my registrar.
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Guus
that's 1.19 euro?
SouL
Guus, damn, I would love to do that haha
Guus
and you have not registered all of them, why?
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Damn Unicode. I meant £.
intosi
Pardon my ignorance, but what's an Ł?
Guus
zloty
intosi
Google tells me Litecoin, but surely 1000 for a domain is quite expensive ;)
Guus
(which I had to google)
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Glad Ge0rG cleared it up though :)
Ge0rG
I think I still own some LTC, though.
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ah, actually, zloty is supposed to be zł. My Google powers suck.
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wow, it's actually worth 170€.
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tux
Ltc has 170€? I need to find my Ltc!
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tux: beyond 200€ actually, I just only have 0.8Ł
tux
Uah
Ge0rG
I wonder if there'll be another BTC peak. I still need to sell my bits.
SouL
Lucky guys
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Alex
I will never understand that bitcoin hype. We are fighting global worming, and wasting tons of energy for mining dome virtual coins :(
Guus
Alex: when I suggested that, someone retorted with: "bitcoin is supposed to replace, not add to, something." I'm not saying that I agree, but it's an interesting thought.
Guus
(the implication being that the financial sector uses a _lot_ of energy too)
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Guus: ya agree
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Guus
that said: I don't own any :)
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I only own BTC because I mined some during a cold winter
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jonasw
Alex, +1
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edhelas
yup same here
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moparisthebest
what is the other web xmpp thing like movim but not movim?
Zash
how much like movim is that?
Zash
jappix? (also php xmpp web thing)
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moparisthebest: Salut a toi?
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daniel
Possible spelling mistakes included because u don't speak French
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moparisthebest
I think it was jappix, which turns out it's abandoned so that makes choosing easy
moparisthebest
Other one looks interesting though
moparisthebest
Thanks!
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mathieuii
yeah, jappix was abandoned and edhelas is currently hosting both the jappix.org and movim.eu servers
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edhelas
yup
edhelas
still in contact with Vanaryon, the creator of Jappix as well :)
moparisthebest
yea I was looking into that and remembered there was another but couldn't remember the name 🙂
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Alex
you are looking for a webclient?
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moparisthebest
got any suggestions?
Alex
candy, opentalk
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Guus
inverse?
Alex
jabber.ru is running a fork of opentalk which is pretty nice
Guus
or did JC eventually _not_ brand the full-page converse variant?
moparisthebest
I thought inverse was just an instance of converse
Guus
converse.js is typically a client in some corner of a website. inverse (using the same code as converse.js) transforms that to a full-page client.
Guus
https://xmpp.org/software/clients.html doesn't list opentalk :(
edhelas
neither Movim
mathieuii
edhelas, make PR then
Alex
ya, many projects killed by our policy which forces an annuial update
Guus
'the culling'
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moparisthebest
Dave Cridland, re council agenda, no vote on last call of XEP-0387: XMPP Compliance Suites 2018 ?
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Dave Cridland
moparisthebest, Hmmm.
moparisthebest
Dave Cridland, looking at trello it's in the 'awaiting list votes', tab thing
moparisthebest
except Kev I think said it needed new votes from new council
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Alex, opentalk? Do you have a link, please? Seems I cannot find any client named like that.