Assuming I'm not the only one that didn't get that, do you have a link?
Kev
About 12 lines up.
Ge0rG
23:11:10 edhelas> http://lists.jitsi.org/pipermail/dev/2018-January/036563.html nice <3
is it that one?
intosi
Ah yes, that's sad. Thank you.
intosi
It was swamped out by a rather unhelpful flurry of leave/join messages.
Ge0rG
"12 lines" is very relative in a MUC with partially shared history and client-defined display of status changes.
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Dave Cridland
Link Mauve, You might want to talk with Guus, who's been doing a lot of work on ofMeet (which is - sort of - embedded JitsiMeet in Openfire). I'd love to see good interop here, and I'm also kicking about JitsiMeet at work.
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SouL
Would be super cool to have it, a feature that is frequently asked for on clients
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Link Mauve
Dave Cridland, indeed, but I mostly didn’t start the RE part on their protocols yet, so I don’t have much to talk about.
Link Mauve
My main usecase would be to bring jitsi-videobridge support to the Gstreamer-based clients, to allow interoperability with WebRTC-based ones.
Guus
I'm just popping in as my name is mentioned. OFMeet _is_ Jitsi Meet embedded in Openfire (combined with the JVB).
Link Mauve
We did talk about that last year. ^^
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Ge0rG
That outreachy mail sounds interesting
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pep.
Dave Cridland, regarding that email, I'd be interested to know what web interfaces for MUC you're referring to, and if they're libre and still maintained
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pep.
(I know a few, I was just surprised by the "*lots*")
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Dave Cridland
jonasw, Am I right in thinking there's nothing new for the Council this week?
Dave Cridland
jonasw, I feel I'm almost certainly missing something.
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jonasw
Dave Cridland, you didn’t process the thing I sent you last week
jonasw
my MUC PR
jonasw
otherwise, I don’t thnik there is. the week has been dominated by the compliance suites discussion
jonasw
re suites by the way: I’m not sure what he process is, but if council has the power and wants to exert it, I’m happy to take ownership for XEP-0387; I’ll also state right here that I’m fine with having Kevs PR merged.
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Ge0rG
Dave Cridland: I'd like to make some progress on user-invite protoXEP, but that requires action from a different Council member, and you are already hunting us in a positive way.
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Dave Cridland
jonasw, Cool. I'm not even sure I know what the process is. Kev might. I think there may even not be any process as such.
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Dave Cridland
Ge0rG, I'm definitely having a voting update. But Client Key and TOTP expire tomorrow, so that's something.
Kev
I don't believe, offhand, that there is a process for getting a Rejected XEP back.
Ge0rG
Dave Cridland: yes, you are right. I'll have to wait another week. Or we need to ping daniel.
Ge0rG
Kev: does it need to have a process? Can't we as council just move it forward?
Ge0rG
Insistence on process was exactly why we got into the messy position we are in now.
Kev
No, really not.
Kev
If we insisted on process, Council wouldn't have voted.
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Ge0rG
So if jonasw takes up 387, merges the PR before tomorrow's meeting and we all vote on advancing it.
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Ge0rG
...won't the world become a better place then?
jonasw
Ge0rG, I’m not sure if council needs to allow me to do that
jonasw
but if it does, we can have the merge happen before the meeting is over ;-)
jonasw
maybe; I’ll be at work tomorrow
Ge0rG
Kev: I'm not quite sure what your point is, or even whether it contradicts my point.
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Dave Cridland
Kev, I would note that it couldn't be rejected in the first place without a vote. XEP-0001 is fairly clear on that IIRC.
Dave Cridland
Kev, I was thinking the change of author.
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Kev
Oh, I don't think we actually need a process for that. Sam wants to not be author, Jonas wants to be author, we just need a PR.
jonasw
well, if that’s all we need, I can fix that
Ge0rG
> [Council members] don't take a dump, son, without a plan.
jonasw
spam?
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jonasw
Dave Cridland, Kev, https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/576
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Ge0rG
👍
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zinid
> I'd like to make some progress on user-invite protoXEP
Is there any code yet? The author said he is working on prototype, but I didn't see the PR so far 😀
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Ge0rG
zinid: feel free to write some, then
zinid
I don't even understand what this xep is about
zinid
Also, I usually don't touch xmpp part in ejabberd, lol
Ge0rG
zinid: it's about making account onboarding easier
zinid
Not interested, I think it's useless, our audience is nerds, never gonna be changed
Ge0rG
Nerds on low-latency links, yes.
zinid
True
zinid
But there is a bright side if you accept this: no need to bother on onboarding, easy xmpp and stuff like that, just concentrate on really fun stuff - omemo, Tor, encrypted jingles and so on