XSF Discussion - 2018-01-23

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  152. SouL Oh, reading that email from Jitsi is sad
  153. intosi Assuming I'm not the only one that didn't get that, do you have a link?
  154. Kev About 12 lines up.
  155. Ge0rG 23:11:10 edhelas> http://lists.jitsi.org/pipermail/dev/2018-January/036563.html nice <3 is it that one?
  156. intosi Ah yes, that's sad. Thank you.
  157. intosi It was swamped out by a rather unhelpful flurry of leave/join messages.
  158. Ge0rG "12 lines" is very relative in a MUC with partially shared history and client-defined display of status changes.
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  164. Dave Cridland Link Mauve, You might want to talk with Guus, who's been doing a lot of work on ofMeet (which is - sort of - embedded JitsiMeet in Openfire). I'd love to see good interop here, and I'm also kicking about JitsiMeet at work.
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  166. SouL Would be super cool to have it, a feature that is frequently asked for on clients
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  195. Link Mauve Dave Cridland, indeed, but I mostly didn’t start the RE part on their protocols yet, so I don’t have much to talk about.
  196. Link Mauve My main usecase would be to bring jitsi-videobridge support to the Gstreamer-based clients, to allow interoperability with WebRTC-based ones.
  197. Guus I'm just popping in as my name is mentioned. OFMeet _is_ Jitsi Meet embedded in Openfire (combined with the JVB).
  198. Link Mauve We did talk about that last year. ^^
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  203. Ge0rG That outreachy mail sounds interesting
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  210. pep. Dave Cridland, regarding that email, I'd be interested to know what web interfaces for MUC you're referring to, and if they're libre and still maintained
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  212. pep. (I know a few, I was just surprised by the "*lots*")
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  230. Dave Cridland jonasw, Am I right in thinking there's nothing new for the Council this week?
  231. Dave Cridland jonasw, I feel I'm almost certainly missing something.
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  234. jonasw Dave Cridland, you didn’t process the thing I sent you last week
  235. jonasw my MUC PR
  236. jonasw otherwise, I don’t thnik there is. the week has been dominated by the compliance suites discussion
  237. jonasw re suites by the way: I’m not sure what he process is, but if council has the power and wants to exert it, I’m happy to take ownership for XEP-0387; I’ll also state right here that I’m fine with having Kevs PR merged.
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  240. Ge0rG Dave Cridland: I'd like to make some progress on user-invite protoXEP, but that requires action from a different Council member, and you are already hunting us in a positive way.
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  247. Dave Cridland jonasw, Cool. I'm not even sure I know what the process is. Kev might. I think there may even not be any process as such.
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  249. Dave Cridland Ge0rG, I'm definitely having a voting update. But Client Key and TOTP expire tomorrow, so that's something.
  250. Kev I don't believe, offhand, that there is a process for getting a Rejected XEP back.
  251. Ge0rG Dave Cridland: yes, you are right. I'll have to wait another week. Or we need to ping daniel.
  252. Ge0rG Kev: does it need to have a process? Can't we as council just move it forward?
  253. Ge0rG Insistence on process was exactly why we got into the messy position we are in now.
  254. Kev No, really not.
  255. Kev If we insisted on process, Council wouldn't have voted.
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  258. Ge0rG So if jonasw takes up 387, merges the PR before tomorrow's meeting and we all vote on advancing it.
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  260. Ge0rG ...won't the world become a better place then?
  261. jonasw Ge0rG, I’m not sure if council needs to allow me to do that
  262. jonasw but if it does, we can have the merge happen before the meeting is over ;-)
  263. jonasw maybe; I’ll be at work tomorrow
  264. Ge0rG Kev: I'm not quite sure what your point is, or even whether it contradicts my point.
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  278. Dave Cridland Kev, I would note that it couldn't be rejected in the first place without a vote. XEP-0001 is fairly clear on that IIRC.
  279. Dave Cridland Kev, I was thinking the change of author.
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  282. Kev Oh, I don't think we actually need a process for that. Sam wants to not be author, Jonas wants to be author, we just need a PR.
  283. jonasw well, if that’s all we need, I can fix that
  284. Ge0rG > [Council members] don't take a dump, son, without a plan.
  285. jonasw spam?
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  290. jonasw Dave Cridland, Kev, https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/576
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  302. Ge0rG 👍
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  313. zinid > I'd like to make some progress on user-invite protoXEP Is there any code yet? The author said he is working on prototype, but I didn't see the PR so far 😀
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  316. Ge0rG zinid: feel free to write some, then
  317. zinid I don't even understand what this xep is about
  318. zinid Also, I usually don't touch xmpp part in ejabberd, lol
  319. Ge0rG zinid: it's about making account onboarding easier
  320. zinid Not interested, I think it's useless, our audience is nerds, never gonna be changed
  321. Ge0rG Nerds on low-latency links, yes.
  322. zinid True
  323. zinid But there is a bright side if you accept this: no need to bother on onboarding, easy xmpp and stuff like that, just concentrate on really fun stuff - omemo, Tor, encrypted jingles and so on
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  356. Dave Cridland zinid, Encrypt all the things?
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  361. zinid Dave Cridland, sure
  362. zinid Dave Cridland, because why not? :)
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