XSF Discussion - 2018-02-02

The jabber.org / xmpp.org DNS issues should now be resolved.

\o/

All DNS servers registered for the domain are up to date and responding quickly.

I should’ve come to summit and brought intosi & rest of iteam some cookies

Sponsor some cookies :)

I would prefer a healthier option, like beer, but regardless, you should've come to the summit anyway ;)

Eh, I meant 'fruit', easy mistake to make.

intosi, even if they’re homemade cookies? :)

I’m not a big fan of alcohol in general, so that’s generally nothing I give to people.

I might enjoy one, sure ;)

How did you get into the XSF? ;-)

Dave Cridland, me? somebody (Arc) sent me an email and suggested to apply ;-)

The Beer and Ribs foundation?

Zash: Exactly. We're all about the beer and ribs.

but next year I might show up at summit, when things’ve settled a little ’round here :)

edhelas: around?

jonasw: can you make some noise?

sorry, was gone, ralphm you're host again :)

intosi, jonasw: what's the current breakage status of xmpp.net? is it working? ipv6 too?

context is https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=jabber.n39.eu&type=client responding "Error: Connection failed."

Ge0rG, ipv6 isn’t

otherwise it should be working

ipv6 isn’t an excuse for that domain though

oh, that server doesn't even have ipv6

somebody will have to take a look at the logs

jonasw: s/somebody/...?/

I don’t have permissions to

I guess that’ll have to wait until after summit

but maybe someone from iteam wants to take a look nevertheless

I shall put it on my todo.

intosi: thanks very much. Ping me if you find out anything interesting.

Will do.

Well the fosdem XSF/XMPP related stuff have a remote participation option?

*will

Did you have something specific in mind?

Nothing really - but with the IETF for example they have a XMPP chat, and live video and or audio stream.

There *may* be live streams of the devrooms, I'm not sure. They're definitely aiming to record everything this year though

The XSF summit had remote participation, but it's over now.

The realtime room is on Sunday iirc, and I'm not sure how many talks are about XMPP

oh damn Zash - I guess I haven't been paying close enough attention to things.

Oh, sorry... I thought you were asking in the context of "what now", and already knew the summit was over

The Summit is more like the IETF meetings than FOSDEM

I suppose

jjrh, the summit was the past couple of days. Notes here: https://xmppsummit2018.opkode.com/

Yeah that was what I was more interested in but if it was this past week then I probably wouldn't have been able to attend anyways. Been pretty crazy with non xmpp related work.

Thanks for that MattJ

I just wanted to send a mail to standards@, but my mail was returned due to some DNS issue, so for now I'll just report it here; The SIMS XEP is at no point referencing or depending on References, even though all examples contain Reference elements. I assume this has just been forgotten?

vanitasvitae: yes, I just received a DNS error too... "Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=atlas.xmpp.org type=A: Host not found"

Should be atlas.jabber.org for now, unless we're (finally) moving everything XSF to use *.xmpp.org

Edwin switched everything to be .xmpp.org the other day.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-omara-mls-architecture/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barnes-mls-protocol/ "The Messaging Layer Security (MLS) Protocol" sounds interesting

> MLS is not intended as a full instant messaging protocol but rather is intended to be embedded in a concrete protocol such as XMPP

So, comparable with OTR, OMEMO etc?

seems it's specifically for groupchat, not? although 1-to-1 could be a special case of that

Don't forget multiple devices