XSF Discussion - 2018-02-05


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  183. marc

    Ge0rG: anything new regarding protoXEP?

  184. Ge0rG

    hi marc! We got it in, as XEP-0401

  185. Ge0rG

    marc: I've asked for feedback from the standards@ ML regarding the IBR extension, but got not much so far

  186. Ge0rG

    marc: people would prefer a data form :(

  187. marc

    Wow, cool. A data form instead of an ad-hoc command?

  188. Ge0rG

    marc: a data form instead of a new IBR element.

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  191. Ge0rG

    marc: for the actual account registration, not for requesting the account

  192. marc

    Okay, so that's what I used in the first place :D

  193. marc

    Not a big problem IMO

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  216. Ge0rG

    I don't like it because it requires more complicated logic to figure out how to map fields to your client UI

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  220. marc

    Why? The field has a name and the names are defined in the XEP, no?

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  222. Zash

    If you do it like in MAM with a basic set of predefined fields?

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  241. Ge0rG

    Zash: even then, I end up comparing a list of my own UI elements to a list of server-side form fields, with a need to fall back to a data form UI when a mismatch is found

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  246. jonasw

    Ge0rG, I don’t see the point; if you don’t want to support data forms, only support that specific setup of data forms and treat it as if IBR wasn’t supported at all/didn’t work otherwise.

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  249. jonasw

    also, Ge0rG: A host MUST NOT add new fields to the 'jabber:iq:register' namespace; instead, extensibility SHOULD be pursued via the Data Forms protocol as specified herein.

  250. jonasw

    (from XEP-0077)

  251. Ge0rG

    jonasw: you can override MUST NOT with another XEP

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  254. jonasw

    ugh

  255. Ge0rG

    jonasw: the problem is to detect whether this is the "that specific setup of data forms"

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  257. jonasw

    FORM_TYPE would tell you

  258. jonasw

    I don’t see a problem at all. compare form_type, compare set of var values, if they don’t match your expectations, afil

  259. jonasw

    I don’t see a problem at all. compare form_type, compare set of var values, if they don’t match your expectations, fail

  260. Ge0rG

    jonasw: how will FORM_TYPE tell me? It will be just `jabber🇮🇶register`

  261. jonasw

    that’s a start

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  263. pep.

    rrr smileys. Ge0rG I assume you meant `jabber:iq:register`

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  278. Ge0rG

    pep.: yes, indeed. I need to fix that script finally

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  352. edhelas

    https://github.com/henry-luo/mark

  353. Zash

    no

  354. edhelas

    Zash you're so focused on the past

  355. Zash

    no

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  368. jonasw

    search for namespace didn’t yield anything

  369. jonasw

    doomed

  370. Zash

    Looked like HTML with {} instead of <>

  371. Zash

    Meh

  372. Zash

    Relevance to XMPP: Can't see any

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  380. moparisthebest

    yes that's exactly what we need, one new standard to replace all the existing ones https://xkcd.com/927/

  381. Zash

    It wont

  382. Guus

    obligatory

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  411. ralphm

    yaml adoption is limited, haha

  412. Zash

    didn't toml come to replace yaml?

  413. moparisthebest

    I also enjoy how it has downsides to json like 'not as widely supported as json' but no downsides to xml

  414. moparisthebest

    I guess it's as widely supported as XML ?

  415. Ge0rG

    XML, the configuration file format from hell

  416. Zash

    Also, meh, I have Lua table notation. I don't need no JSON-XML hybrid

  417. Zash

    Good luck inventing a format for everything that doesn't suck at everything.

  418. edhelas

    https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0239.html cover pretty much all the cases

  419. Zash

    Perfection

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