Maybe Link Mauve is interested as well? Are you going to gpn?
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Link Mauve
daniel, I was planning to, but ended up not planning anything. :x
pep.
(surprinsingly enough)
jonasw
ELOGIC
Ge0rG
Man (in club): "Hey DJ, play Love to Hate You"
DJ: "No"
Man: "I demand it under my Right to Erasure"
jonasw
m
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I suppose erasure is a band or something?
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I’m not sure if I should be happy that I can infer that or whether that’s a sign that my mind is twisted.
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Dave Cridland
fippo, You about? I've some XEP-0220 questions. (Mostly about errors).
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Anyone else might know, too. I've an amusing... Bug? in Metre. Sequence is roughly the following:
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Metre -> Other : Outbound connection, bidi-enabled, sends dialback request.
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Other -> Metre : Inbound connection, SASL-authenticated, bidi-enabled, sends dialback verify request.
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However, Metre has already closed its outbound, seeing a usable and authenticated bidi-enabled inbound session. So it rejects the db:verify because it's referencing an id it knows to be closed.
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So, questions:
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1) Should a db:verify that's valid, but referencing a closed session, be returned "valid", "invalid", or "error"? And if "error", what error code?
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In fact, that's kind of it. I may well tell Metre to leave any session that's even requested auth up when it sees a bidi possibility, even if it feels less optimal, but I'm curious about how to handle it nonetheless.
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fippo
dwd: why does the fact that the connection associated with the id influence the validity of the dialback key?
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fippo, Paranoia.
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fippo, Metre won't respond "valid" unless the outgoing stream exists and is in the right auth state (REQUESTED).
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Link Mauve
Dave Cridland, btw, is Metre multi-threaded, at least for TLS handshakes?
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Now that my personal server got two cores, I was thinking about using something in front of Prosody for that.
fippo
hrm. in that case you might need to keep the connection around for a bit longer. or hope that people like me stop using old certificates :-)
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Link Mauve, Nope, not yet.
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Ok.
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Link Mauve, Of course, it'd offload the TLS from Prosody, an you can run Prosody as a component which'd possibly work neater.
Ge0rG
Link Mauve: how much CPU time are you currently spending on TLS handshakes?
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Mind you, you can also run Prosody as a component host for another Prosody acting as the user, so...
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Ge0rG, enough that s2s doesn't reliably establish before its timeout on server restart.
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It is a real toaster!
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Link Mauve, I do have a bug there - although Metre uses libunbound in async mode, it seems to have a limit in the number of queries it allows in-flight (or maybe it's a sync interface hidden in the other thread).
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Link Mauve
Hmm...
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Link Mauve: send pictures!
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Link Mauve, I'll get around to fixing that one though.
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Link Mauve
Ge0rG, I'm not at home right now, maybe later!
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Link Mauve: prosody might not like it bit handling TLS anymore? What's the thing again in sasl that needs stuff from the TLS session
pep.
Not* handling
Link Mauve
pep., SCRAM-SHA-*-PLUS, but if you can transmit that it's fine.
Zash
Metre doesn't do c2s tho
Zash
Or does it?
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In this case Prosody would be the one doing it.
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Metre would only establish the connection.
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AFAIK.
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Metre won't even listen to C2S ports.
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Metre just does S2S and '114. (Well, and '368 and '361)
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Link Mauve
Oh.
Link Mauve
So yeah pep., your question doesn't make sense, Prosody would still listen there.
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Ok
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vanitasvitae, "a function that teenagers find neat" - ah, the youth of today, eh?
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Steve Kille
Any news on fixing Travis?
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remko
vanitasvitae: I actually use signal only because it has this feature. Thanks for the compliment!
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remko, you're welcome ;)
remko
vanitasvitae: I find it useful to e.g. send passwords to someone. I know they won't delete it themselves, so i do some extra security management for them :)
vanitasvitae
I'd not really call that security management but I get the point
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Kev
It is if you trust them to be incompetent rather than malicious.
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e.g. relatives
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exactly
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although worded differently when in presence of
Kev
If you say so :)
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ralphm
Sometimes, honesty is best
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remko
as usual, whenever I step in to a thread on the list, it derails quickly.
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Kev
Moth to a flame.
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yeah, i'm still going with the assumption that i'm the moth, so it's not really my fault.
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jonasw
Steve Kille, hey, your XEP-0369 update makes non-editorial changes. I would like to keep the version numbers semantic, so would it be okay if I change the number of that release to 0.10.0 instead of 0.9.7?
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(The idea is that changes to z in x.y.z should only be of editorial nature, to make it easier to guage the impact of an update)
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jonasw: that is fine. I was not sure. I had the sense that small technical changes should not bump the middle number, but happy to follow best practice
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Although there was quite a bit of text change, there was nothing radical changed
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Steve Kille, cool, will do then
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Kev
Smallest number is editorial changes only. Largest number is Advancement. Anything else is middle number.
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Steve Kille
got it
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Kev
Is XEP-0404 still available? I've got a non-April 1st use for it that I want.
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Kev, yes
Kev
jonasw: Could you 'reserve' that one for me please?
jonasw
Kev, yeah
Kev
I'll explain in a bit, just on a call at the moment and thought of it.
jonasw
no worries
jonasw
next one is going to be 403 anyways
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and since there’s no other protoxep in the queue...
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Neustradamus
There is a problem of certificate for jabber.org, we must create a ticket?