XSF Discussion - 2018-05-11

So the new ejabberd MUC avatars are breaking yaxim, because it parses the presence-from-MUC-bare-JID as a null-named participant. Sigh.

Why is the MUC sending presence?

Le wat

MattJ, to push their vcard avatar hash

That's silly

Hnnnnng

MattJ, is it?

I imagine that's going to break various clients.

I /think/ that folks checked before they started implementing that and most clients were fine

I'm all for MUCs having avatars (I've implemented it in the past)

Something in a message would probably work better wrt backwards compat

jonasw: Ok, could be I'm wrong.

Eg like the subject

worst which happened in unmaintained clients was a ghost user

(*some* maintained client broke *ahem*)

So it doesn't break clients. Other than those clients that it breaks? :)

> There's a reason we so fanatically drive at this goal at Joyent, and it's not because we're smarter or better than anyone else. It's because we've been burned by invalid abstractions of our own doing so many times that we've programmed a Jabber bot to constantly berate us with reminders of how our hubris around abstractions led us to failure.

Interesting little tidbit from a blog post; Joyent is using XMPP apparently.

Or was in 2011 at least.

Syndace, no issue if I package your omemo lib (+ deps) for Arch? :)

Just on AUR for now, -git packages

pep.: Please go for it :)

how is the audit coming for https://github.com/Syndace/python-xeddsa :-°

And *some* kind of testing would be nice