Zash, yeah, that’s a new issue (with the XEP HTML not reactiong to Pgup/Pgdown/Home/End in firefox)
MattJ
edhelas: in moderated rooms people cannot write messages unless they have the participant role
MattJ
And this feature is a way for someone who cannot talk in the room to request that a moderator updates their role so they can talk
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note that the protocol flow is already specified. clients do not have a way to know whether the service supports that protocol flow though
MattJ
Very old but moderated rooms have never been that popular on XMPP so I don't think many clients implement the feature because it hasn't been needed
jonasw
and since it’s based on <message/>, it’s not trivial for clients to know whether the server supports the protocol even on opportunistically sending a request
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edhelas
MattJ :)
edhelas
thanks for the explanation
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edhelas
I'd like to do a PR to expose the access model of Pubsub node through the metadata, just wondering what you though about it
MattJ
edhelas: through disco?
edhelas
yes
MattJ
Isn't that already done?
edhelas
no, or I didn't saw the change
edhelas
but it could be really useful for me to know that in advance, then I can show it in the UI
MattJ
"If meta-data is provided, it SHOULD include values for all configured options as well as "automatic" information such as the node creation date, a list of publishers, and the like."
edhelas
ok I'll tell that to the ejabberd guys :p
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jonasw
now’s one of the rare occasions where I wish that resource locking was still en vogue :)
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Zash
ENOCTX
jonasw
writing a component which proxies several JIDs behind a single one
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ralphm
Why wouldn't the component be able to map this to fixed resources?
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ralphm
Oh, you mean for keeping conversations locked
jonasw
ralphm, yeah
jonasw
but messages aren’t important for my use-case anyways
ralphm
What is the use case?
ralphm
Not something like customer support agents
jonasw
nah. it’s a service which runs as a client
jonasw
which answers IQ requests
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but to know the resource to send to, users would normally need to subscribe to presence from the service, which I don’t want (useless overhead, because the resource doesn’t really matter)
jonasw
so I’m building a component which proxies that client and translates IQs sent to its bare JID to any of the currently online client resources
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edhelas
is https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0312.html deprecated by MAM ?
ralphm
Possibly, yes
edhelas
okay :)
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flow
jonasw, why not stuff the functionality into the component and get rid of the proxying?
jonasw
flow, aioxmpp can’t into components and I don’t want to do that in lua
jonasw
also, bonus for possible load balancing
Zash
Mmmmmmod_component_roundrobin?
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Zash
Or like s2s-level load balancing
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flow
jonasw, and using a fixed resource?
Zash
A round-robin bare-jid forking mode would have been kinda useful
jonasw
flow, can’t rely on that
flow
jonasw, why not?
jonasw
servers may override and such ;-
flow
Zash, like xep354?
Zash
flow: Yeah
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flow
jonasw, I wouldn't consider that a practical problem
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Zash
When you have room locking in MUC, what's sensible behaviour if it remains locked?
jonasw
hmm, timeout?
Zash
The current stable branch of Prosody has room locking (disabled by default) where rooms are destroyed if they remain locked for 5 minutes.
Zash
The development version simply unlocks them.
jonasw
that (unlocking) sounds better
Zash
Indeed.
Zash
Hm, maybe it should send a "privacy related config change" status code at that point.
jonasw
seems good
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jonasw
goffi, since you asked: https://muclumbus.jabbercat.org/docs/api#xmpp
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Guus
A question to the French speaking occupants of this room: when a French person writes me in English: "I'm in the show this week", can we deduce what the original meaning was? The person attempted to convey that they were indisposed - but no actual show (theater, circus, etc) was involved, as far as I can tell.
Guus
I'm wondering if this is a literal translation of a French proverb.
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edhelas
looks like a bad translation to me, for me it's saying "I'm trendy this week" but I'm maybe wrong