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flow
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> labdsf> flow, what if someone sents silent messages to bare JID?
flow
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rfc612(0|1) routing rules apply
flow
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and possibly carbons or im-ng routing rules
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ralphm
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Hi
Guus
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o/
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XSF Board Meeting | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
ralphm
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ralphm
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0. Welcome and Agenda
ralphm
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Who do we have?
ralphm
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And what do you have?
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MattJ
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Here
Guus
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Here, headache.
ralphm
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Be well, sir.
Guus
13:35:42
instant cure: less webrtc
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ralphm
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I've been swamped in other stuff, so I know the feeling.
ralphm
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Was there a meeting last week? I was tied up in another (work) meeting.
MattJ
13:37:26
There wasn't
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MattJ
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Oh, on this topic, I contacted Martin a couple of weeks ago
MattJ
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He moved house, job and other stuff, he said he'll be back online as soon as he can
ralphm
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Oh, that's good to hear.
ralphm
13:38:32
I don't feel we have anything pressing at the moment.
jonasw
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(survey?)
MattJ
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The two items on my radar are the GDPR team and the survey
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ralphm
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Ok
ralphm
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Let's start with
ralphm
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1. Survey
MattJ
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I'll take minutes too
ralphm
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(thanks)
MattJ
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Survey is easy... I simply haven't had time to do anything with the results yet
ralphm
13:40:23
Clear.
MattJ
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I have them in a spreadsheet, but the format is non-trivial to get useful overviews from currently, it needs a bit of processing
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MattJ
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Stupid things like it put the ratings as text strings instead of numbers, so it's "(1) Poor" to "(5) Excellent", etc.
ralphm
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Right. Take your time to get that right then.
ralphm
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:-(
MattJ
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and I've just been a bit busy the past couple of weeks
ralphm
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Same here.
MattJ
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But yeah, it's top of my todo, so hopefully by next week we can discuss it
MattJ
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Nothing else to report
ralphm
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Thanks
ralphm
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2. GDPR
ralphm
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Did we get an answer from Alex?
MattJ
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I sent him some messages, but he didn't respond
Guus
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Did we ask Alex? 🙂
MattJ
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I can ping him again
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MattJ
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I also pinged Winfried, who said his time is limited but he'd be happy to help where he can
Guus
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awesome
ralphm
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Cool.
MattJ
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I don't think we will have that much to do, I'm willing to take on the iteam part of things, for the most part
ralphm
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Right, probably mostly making the inventory itself
MattJ
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so I see the two steps as 1) inventory of data 2) analysis of what actions we need to take for each of those
ralphm
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And the Privacy Policy
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MattJ
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and that
ralphm
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ok
ralphm
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3. AOB
MattJ
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None here
Guus
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nor here
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I'll be awol for two weeks, starting july 13th.
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So that brings us into
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4. Date of Next
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+1w works for me.
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I'm sure there will be other vacation plans. I'm just going to keep assuming a meeting every week and see if we get quorum
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+1W it is
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5. Close
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Thanks all!
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thank you!
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back to me MediaTrackConstraints 😞
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
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Thanks
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Guus: good luck with that
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(and the headache)
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tx
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more coffee.
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I'm just dropping this link here again as it might interest you https://nl.movim.eu/?about#caps_widget_tab it's some clients statistics generated from the presences that I've cached
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Nice!
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edhelas: what's the user base for that? Users on movim.eu or also remote servers.
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yeah on this nl.movim.eu pod, so I'm not expecting to have 5% of Movim clients worldwide
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also Movim users (and their related JIDs) are close to the XMPP community as well so aware of "modern clients"
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Is this over the total number of presences? Or total number of full jids?
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but it's basically compiled from all the full jid yes (they are merged across the connected accounts as well, see https://github.com/movim/movim/blob/master/app/widgets/Caps/Caps.php#L68)
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https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-exploding-messages https://keybase.io/docs/crypto/ephemeral (one more messenger implements ephemeral messages)
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> The goal is that even if an attacker steals one of your encrypted exploding messages from our server, and then later steals one of your devices and all the keys on it, there should still be no way for the attacker to decrypt the message.
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By the way, it seems all these messengers (signal, keybase, wire) expose user device list to contacts, probably because it is way easier to manage keys this way. Somewhat related to recent MIX discussion: trying to hide multiple devices behind a pseudonym limits interaction to simple chat. File transfers, calls, etc. rely on direct interaction anyway.
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> I'm just dropping this link here again as it might interest you https://nl.movim.eu/?about#caps_widget_tab it's some clients statistics generated from the presences that I've cached
"Conversations" is listed twice, 50% and 2.3%
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