XSF Discussion - 2018-06-26


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  161. Steve Kille

    mimi89999: for me, FMIX is a key goal. So this is a requirement. Details on achieving this will be additional to MIX core specs. The important thing for the core specs is that they are done in a way that will facilitate this. FMIX is going to be simpler and cleaner than FMUC. WIll also address some issues in FMUC.

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  181. flow

    Steve Kille, maybe add most of what you just wrote (as note) to MIX-CORE?

  182. flow

    I'm sure mimi89999 won't be the only one wondering about this

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  199. Steve Kille

    flow: makes sense. I'll add this in the next round of edits

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  210. flow

    Steve Kille, thanks

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  349. mimi89999

    So you don't go for a Matrix like approach?

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  354. flow

    mimi89999, as far as I can tell no. Matrix is consists of multiple dezentralized archives which get merged once in a while to form a graph (as far as I can tell, happy to be corrected if I'm wrong). MIX, right now, is a master archive from which participant's server could sync from

  355. MattJ

    That would mean no connectivity to the master server means participants on a different server wouldn't be able to communicate in the room

  356. MattJ

    which is exactly what FMUC was designed to allow, iirc

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  358. flow

    MattJ, right, but note that I wasn't talking about FMUC or FMIX

  359. MattJ

    Yep, I agree with your description of Matrix, and of MIX, but just adding the observation that the MIX model as you describe it will not suffice for FMIX

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  361. flow

    MattJ, right, something like FMIX would basically mean bi-directional sync from/to the "master" instead of uni-directional sync

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  374. mimi89999

    Shouldn't that be designed in the XEP as it is on of the requirements listed?

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  387. flow

    mimi89999, why shall we bloat the core xep by stuffing everything, especially optional functionality, into it?

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  394. jonasw

    mimi89999, the requirements state that the federation must be "enabled", not "supported"

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  396. jonasw

    this might be nitpicking, but the requirement, in my reading, just says that the spec must take care that such federation isn’t actively hindered

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  398. Steve Kille

    jonasw: that was my intent. I care a lot about this. it will be in (yet another) XEP in the MIX family

  399. Steve Kille

    will tweak the words to make this clear

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