XSF Discussion - 2018-07-02

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15:26:16 pep. https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2018/05/16/banquets-and-barbecues/ Apparently a bunch of folks missed it so I'm pasting it here
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15:32:22 daniel Interesting
15:33:00 pep. To some extent conversations already has the distinction they make here.
15:33:23 pep. Not in the listing, but in the rooms themselves
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16:04:27 Ge0rG pep.: how?
16:04:34 pep. how?
16:04:59 Ge0rG That article has some profound chat usability analysis, I'm impressed.
16:05:06 Ge0rG pep.: pep. [17:33]: > To some extent conversations already has the distinction they make here.
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16:06:08 pep. members-only&realjids rooms have a different treatment
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16:07:47 Ge0rG Yes, but how?
16:07:53 pep. how what
16:08:06 Zash Different levels of notifications maybe?
16:08:28 Zash Doesn't Swift do something too, or was that just for impromptu MUCs?
16:08:29 Ge0rG How are they treated differently?
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16:09:30 Zash IIRC only loud notifications for direct mentions in public rooms
16:09:47 Zash Smaller private rooms would notify on any message
16:10:01 Zash Also the OMEMO thing
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16:11:00 pep. Ge0rG, uh, I thought, might be wrong indeed.
16:11:13 pep. Or maybe it's just stuff I heard about
16:12:17 daniel Yes private && non anon change some defaults. Like notifications and omemo
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16:12:48 daniel Also iirc those will automatically get bookmarked
16:12:54 pep. "private" only means "members-only" here right? Or does it also imply non-public?
16:13:03 Ge0rG daniel: what notification changes are there? Highlight VS everything?
16:13:25 daniel pep.: when I say private I mean members only
16:13:29 daniel > daniel: what notification changes are there? Highlight VS everything? Yes
16:14:44 Ge0rG That's actually useful.
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16:16:31 daniel But I generally try to use that as an indication for those two styles of group chats. Even if for now it's only those two settings that change I will probably use the same metric for other things in the future
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16:18:44 Ge0rG "join a banquet"
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16:19:17 Zash Dress up (with a fancy nickname)?
16:19:59 pep. Zash, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/banquet the 1.
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16:20:41 pep. Opposite to "barbecue", which I assume they mean as a smaller group
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19:28:04 moparisthebest jonasw, did you ever get that _acme-challenge cname server type thing set up like you talked about?
19:28:54 jonasw moparisthebest, nah, I am still on delegations
19:28:57 jonasw never change a running system
19:29:19 moparisthebest yea I'm thinking of changing my running system(s) to wildcard certs though, which means dns instead of http :'(
19:31:14 moparisthebest I found https://github.com/joohoi/acme-dns but meh I tthink I'm just going to hackily sed my bind zone file
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19:35:32 Ge0rG I'm using dehydrated wih a manual zone editing process. It's very painful
19:36:25 daniel I have always been using the DNS challenge. For my setup it's easier than http
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19:38:21 moparisthebest nothing is simpler than http if all your hosts run nginx, location ~ "^/\.well-known/acme-challenge/([-_a-zA-Z0-9]+)$" { default_type text/plain; return 200 "$1.KEY_HERE"; }
19:38:32 moparisthebest no communication, no deploying anything
19:38:42 moparisthebest but can't use that for wildcard I guess
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