XSF Discussion - 2018-07-02

  1. pep.

    https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2018/05/16/banquets-and-barbecues/ Apparently a bunch of folks missed it so I'm pasting it here

  2. daniel


  3. pep.

    To some extent conversations already has the distinction they make here.

  4. pep.

    Not in the listing, but in the rooms themselves

  5. Ge0rG

    pep.: how?

  6. pep.


  7. Ge0rG

    That article has some profound chat usability analysis, I'm impressed.

  8. Ge0rG

    pep.: pep. [17:33]: > To some extent conversations already has the distinction they make here.

  9. pep.

    members-only&realjids rooms have a different treatment

  10. Ge0rG

    Yes, but how?

  11. pep.

    how what

  12. Zash

    Different levels of notifications maybe?

  13. Zash

    Doesn't Swift do something too, or was that just for impromptu MUCs?

  14. Ge0rG

    How are they treated differently?

  15. Zash

    IIRC only loud notifications for direct mentions in public rooms

  16. Zash

    Smaller private rooms would notify on any message

  17. Zash

    Also the OMEMO thing

  18. pep.

    Ge0rG, uh, I thought, might be wrong indeed.

  19. pep.

    Or maybe it's just stuff I heard about

  20. daniel

    Yes private && non anon change some defaults. Like notifications and omemo

  21. daniel

    Also iirc those will automatically get bookmarked

  22. pep.

    "private" only means "members-only" here right? Or does it also imply non-public?

  23. Ge0rG

    daniel: what notification changes are there? Highlight VS everything?

  24. daniel

    pep.: when I say private I mean members only

  25. daniel

    > daniel: what notification changes are there? Highlight VS everything? Yes

  26. Ge0rG

    That's actually useful.

  27. daniel

    But I generally try to use that as an indication for those two styles of group chats. Even if for now it's only those two settings that change I will probably use the same metric for other things in the future

  28. Ge0rG

    "join a banquet"

  29. Zash

    Dress up (with a fancy nickname)?

  30. pep.

    Zash, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/banquet the 1.

  31. pep.

    Opposite to "barbecue", which I assume they mean as a smaller group

  32. moparisthebest

    jonasw, did you ever get that _acme-challenge cname server type thing set up like you talked about?

  33. jonasw

    moparisthebest, nah, I am still on delegations

  34. jonasw

    never change a running system

  35. moparisthebest

    yea I'm thinking of changing my running system(s) to wildcard certs though, which means dns instead of http :'(

  36. moparisthebest

    I found https://github.com/joohoi/acme-dns but meh I tthink I'm just going to hackily sed my bind zone file

  37. Ge0rG

    I'm using dehydrated wih a manual zone editing process. It's very painful

  38. daniel

    I have always been using the DNS challenge. For my setup it's easier than http

  39. moparisthebest

    nothing is simpler than http if all your hosts run nginx, location ~ "^/\.well-known/acme-challenge/([-_a-zA-Z0-9]+)$" { default_type text/plain; return 200 "$1.KEY_HERE"; }

  40. moparisthebest

    no communication, no deploying anything

  41. moparisthebest

    but can't use that for wildcard I guess