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https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2018/05/16/banquets-and-barbecues/
Apparently a bunch of folks missed it so I'm pasting it here
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Interesting
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To some extent conversations already has the distinction they make here.
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Not in the listing, but in the rooms themselves
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pep.: how?
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how?
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That article has some profound chat usability analysis, I'm impressed.
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pep.: pep. [17:33]:
> To some extent conversations already has the distinction they make here.
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members-only&realjids rooms have a different treatment
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Yes, but how?
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how what
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Different levels of notifications maybe?
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Doesn't Swift do something too, or was that just for impromptu MUCs?
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How are they treated differently?
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IIRC only loud notifications for direct mentions in public rooms
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Smaller private rooms would notify on any message
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Also the OMEMO thing
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Ge0rG, uh, I thought, might be wrong indeed.
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Or maybe it's just stuff I heard about
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Yes private && non anon change some defaults. Like notifications and omemo
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Also iirc those will automatically get bookmarked
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"private" only means "members-only" here right? Or does it also imply non-public?
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daniel: what notification changes are there? Highlight VS everything?
16:13:25 daniel
pep.: when I say private I mean members only
16:13:29 daniel
> daniel: what notification changes are there? Highlight VS everything?
Yes
16:14:44 Ge0rG
That's actually useful.
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But I generally try to use that as an indication for those two styles of group chats. Even if for now it's only those two settings that change I will probably use the same metric for other things in the future
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"join a banquet"
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Dress up (with a fancy nickname)?
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Zash, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/banquet the 1.
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Opposite to "barbecue", which I assume they mean as a smaller group
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jonasw, did you ever get that _acme-challenge cname server type thing set up like you talked about?
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moparisthebest, nah, I am still on delegations
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never change a running system
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yea I'm thinking of changing my running system(s) to wildcard certs though, which means dns instead of http :'(
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I found https://github.com/joohoi/acme-dns but meh I tthink I'm just going to hackily sed my bind zone file
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I'm using dehydrated wih a manual zone editing process. It's very painful
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I have always been using the DNS challenge. For my setup it's easier than http
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nothing is simpler than http if all your hosts run nginx, location ~ "^/\.well-known/acme-challenge/([-_a-zA-Z0-9]+)$" { default_type text/plain; return 200 "$1.KEY_HERE"; }
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no communication, no deploying anything
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but can't use that for wildcard I guess
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