XSF Discussion - 2018-07-02


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  488. pep.

    https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2018/05/16/banquets-and-barbecues/ Apparently a bunch of folks missed it so I'm pasting it here

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  491. daniel

    Interesting

  492. pep.

    To some extent conversations already has the distinction they make here.

  493. pep.

    Not in the listing, but in the rooms themselves

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  535. Ge0rG

    pep.: how?

  536. pep.

    how?

  537. Ge0rG

    That article has some profound chat usability analysis, I'm impressed.

  538. Ge0rG

    pep.: pep. [17:33]: > To some extent conversations already has the distinction they make here.

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  540. pep.

    members-only&realjids rooms have a different treatment

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  543. Ge0rG

    Yes, but how?

  544. pep.

    how what

  545. Zash

    Different levels of notifications maybe?

  546. Zash

    Doesn't Swift do something too, or was that just for impromptu MUCs?

  547. Ge0rG

    How are they treated differently?

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  550. Zash

    IIRC only loud notifications for direct mentions in public rooms

  551. Zash

    Smaller private rooms would notify on any message

  552. Zash

    Also the OMEMO thing

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  555. pep.

    Ge0rG, uh, I thought, might be wrong indeed.

  556. pep.

    Or maybe it's just stuff I heard about

  557. daniel

    Yes private && non anon change some defaults. Like notifications and omemo

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  559. daniel

    Also iirc those will automatically get bookmarked

  560. pep.

    "private" only means "members-only" here right? Or does it also imply non-public?

  561. Ge0rG

    daniel: what notification changes are there? Highlight VS everything?

  562. daniel

    pep.: when I say private I mean members only

  563. daniel

    > daniel: what notification changes are there? Highlight VS everything? Yes

  564. Ge0rG

    That's actually useful.

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  566. daniel

    But I generally try to use that as an indication for those two styles of group chats. Even if for now it's only those two settings that change I will probably use the same metric for other things in the future

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  568. Ge0rG

    "join a banquet"

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  570. Zash

    Dress up (with a fancy nickname)?

  571. pep.

    Zash, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/banquet the 1.

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  573. pep.

    Opposite to "barbecue", which I assume they mean as a smaller group

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  691. moparisthebest

    jonasw, did you ever get that _acme-challenge cname server type thing set up like you talked about?

  692. jonasw

    moparisthebest, nah, I am still on delegations

  693. jonasw

    never change a running system

  694. moparisthebest

    yea I'm thinking of changing my running system(s) to wildcard certs though, which means dns instead of http :'(

  695. moparisthebest

    I found https://github.com/joohoi/acme-dns but meh I tthink I'm just going to hackily sed my bind zone file

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  698. Ge0rG

    I'm using dehydrated wih a manual zone editing process. It's very painful

  699. daniel

    I have always been using the DNS challenge. For my setup it's easier than http

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  701. moparisthebest

    nothing is simpler than http if all your hosts run nginx, location ~ "^/\.well-known/acme-challenge/([-_a-zA-Z0-9]+)$" { default_type text/plain; return 200 "$1.KEY_HERE"; }

  702. moparisthebest

    no communication, no deploying anything

  703. moparisthebest

    but can't use that for wildcard I guess

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