XSF Discussion - 2018-07-19


  1. 404.city

    daniel, xmpp.org this is not an ordinary site about XMPP. The central site about XMPP. This list is copied to other sites and distributed as a recommendation. New users think that the missing servers in the list are bad. This list contains 5 servers selected based on biased criteria. It has 2 small servers(yax.im and jwchat). 1 without closed registration(jabber.at). 2 large, but without registration through clients and problems with XEP support (no http upload or omemo/xmpp.jp and jabber.ru). This list does not help the beginner. This list is misleading that these are good servers, and the rest are worse. A new server can not be added to this list, because they say "the place is occupied". I do not want to offend anyone and say that this servers is worse. I want there should not be a biased list or it should be freedom to add XMPP servers

  2. 404.city

    If an unbiased list can not be exist, then there should not be a list. I think this is xmpp.org not a personal blog. In XMPP clients, you can find a criterion. In the case of servers, this is ambiguous. Popularity can be faked and does not say that the server is good. The remaining criteria require large computational resources and a lot of new code (XEP, sertificat verfy, uptime).

  3. Link Mauve

    “20:19:00 Ge0rG> If nobody cries loudly, right now, I'll delete both those pages.”, I think it should be made a redirection to the more well-known page.

  4. Link Mauve

    Breaking URLs is always a bad thing.

  5. Link Mauve

    And if it has such a high ranking, it must be valuable to redirect it to https://xmpp.org/getting-started/

  6. Link Mauve

    iteam people, please do that ↑

  7. Ge0rG

    A wiki admin can do that. It seems I'm a wiki admin.

  8. jonasw

    which pages are we talking about?

  9. Ge0rG

    jonasw: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Getting_Started

  10. jonasw

    can’t you make it a proper redirect?

  11. Ge0rG

    oh, wiki redirects only go to other wiki pages

  12. flow

    https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExternalRedirect ?

  13. Ge0rG

    flow: that requires iteam indeed.

  14. Link Mauve

    My suggestion would be to do the 301 directly in the nginx configuration.

  15. nyco

    hey all, board meeting?

  16. nyco

    yes? no?

  17. nyco

    test

  18. pep.

    Pong

  19. nyco

    that must be it... ;-)

  20. nyco

    Matthew and Guus have sent apologies yesterday

  21. nyco

    time out... :'(

  22. Seve/SouL

    That was quick