XSF Discussion - 2018-07-19


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  75. 404.city

    daniel, xmpp.org this is not an ordinary site about XMPP. The central site about XMPP. This list is copied to other sites and distributed as a recommendation. New users think that the missing servers in the list are bad. This list contains 5 servers selected based on biased criteria. It has 2 small servers(yax.im and jwchat). 1 without closed registration(jabber.at). 2 large, but without registration through clients and problems with XEP support (no http upload or omemo/xmpp.jp and jabber.ru). This list does not help the beginner. This list is misleading that these are good servers, and the rest are worse. A new server can not be added to this list, because they say "the place is occupied". I do not want to offend anyone and say that this servers is worse. I want there should not be a biased list or it should be freedom to add XMPP servers

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  85. 404.city

    If an unbiased list can not be exist, then there should not be a list. I think this is xmpp.org not a personal blog. In XMPP clients, you can find a criterion. In the case of servers, this is ambiguous. Popularity can be faked and does not say that the server is good. The remaining criteria require large computational resources and a lot of new code (XEP, sertificat verfy, uptime).

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  220. Link Mauve

    “20:19:00 Ge0rG> If nobody cries loudly, right now, I'll delete both those pages.”, I think it should be made a redirection to the more well-known page.

  221. Link Mauve

    Breaking URLs is always a bad thing.

  222. Link Mauve

    And if it has such a high ranking, it must be valuable to redirect it to https://xmpp.org/getting-started/

  223. Link Mauve

    iteam people, please do that ↑

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  232. Ge0rG

    A wiki admin can do that. It seems I'm a wiki admin.

  233. jonasw

    which pages are we talking about?

  234. Ge0rG

    jonasw: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Getting_Started

  235. jonasw

    can’t you make it a proper redirect?

  236. Ge0rG

    oh, wiki redirects only go to other wiki pages

  237. flow

    https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExternalRedirect ?

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  250. Ge0rG

    flow: that requires iteam indeed.

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  340. Link Mauve

    My suggestion would be to do the 301 directly in the nginx configuration.

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  480. nyco

    hey all, board meeting?

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  486. nyco

    yes? no?

  487. nyco

    test

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    Pong

  490. nyco

    that must be it... ;-)

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  497. nyco

    Matthew and Guus have sent apologies yesterday

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  516. nyco

    time out... :'(

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  652. Seve/SouL

    That was quick

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