XSF Discussion - 2018-07-25

SamWhited: you win the bet with "interesting challenge"

Congrats :)

Did you post it?

no

For once it's not xmpp bashing, that's good

hackernews love pointless brain exercises.

jonasw: you should add the Jeff Goldblum quote to the testimonials

maybe

-EBUSY though

oh my god why are people sending pull requests against xmpp-echo-bot

jonasw: somebody woken up the dragon

Finally a successful XMPP project.

and in 3 months xmpp-echo-bot will support MIX

it doesn’t even support MUC

MUC is has been, all the cool kids are using MIX

MIX is never be 😂

jonasw: you could maybe get by by using GC1.0

Guus, uh... about https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/579/files#diff-9661ef8d60d796f8a9156c049dba3a30R403

this doesn’t make sense to me

ahh, now it does

enable ≠ resume

nevermind

Guus, sorry, another question: why do you use <conflict/> here? https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/579/files/aaf23bf79081c7e1efa6861e2217809a60e13ea1#diff-9661ef8d60d796f8a9156c049dba3a30R431

this seems extremely confusing to me: 1. conflict doesn’t really signal an invalid value. I think the list consensus was more along the lines of <undefined-condition/> + an application-specific condition element 2. conflict is used as error to signal that another connection is currently resuming the stream. this is ambiguous ✏

+ no stream management specific stream error

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/579/commits/aaf23bf79081c7e1efa6861e2217809a60e13ea1#r205162639

Jonasw, you might be right. Or not. I included it mainly as a byproduct of the list discussion. I'm going to remove all changes other than the one I care about personally (the r/a sync issue) in the interest of advancing _that_ change. Other changes can go in separate PRs.

But first, dinner.

About XEP-0280: Message Carbons...

It seems to be lacking of point about sending messages between own resources.

Guus, but this is exatcly about your sync change

I suspect you might’ve done a copy/paste error or something here

Jonasw, I (intended to) use conflict for a second, different situation to the r/a sync issue (which indeed should have undefined, not conflict).

I'm quite literally at a trampoline with my youngest. Can't fix it now.

Guus, no worries

Wth

Indefinitely messed up a copy/paste there

https://xmpp.igniterealtime.org:7483/httpfileupload/b5fab7c9-cf37-46ff-965d-e35901087705/yOHexJ7eSPydqT1UmejwMQ.jpg

We progressed from trampoline to cocktails though. Might take while. 😉

heh

As I wrote in a different MUC: should be fixed now.