flowWhat is the rationle behind having xep368 throwing xmpp and xmpps SRV RRs into the same bucket anyway?
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edhelaswould it be possible to tune RSM to be able to retrieve content simply using page number and count ?
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jonaswedhelas, by rewriting it to be something completely different, yeah
jonasw(not saying that this wouldn’t be useful in some cases)
jonaswhm
jonaswedhelas, or, if a service offers this, it could have a query mode where <after/> and <before/> refer to indices instead of keys
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jonaswactually nevermind
jonaswedhelas, what is wrong with: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0059.html#jump
jonaswthat should be doing exactly what you want
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jonaswmultiply page size with number of page you want and you’re good to go✎
jonaswmultiply page size with number of page you want to calculate the index and you’re good to go ✏
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flowjonasw, what if a service choose to user a smaller page size as requested?
flowor is the page size locked in at size point?
jonaswflow, you can then request more pages until you’ve got the amount of items you want
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jonaswimagine a web view with a simple page number pagination
jonaswif the user chooses 100 items per page, but the service only provides 20, you simply have to fire 5 queries to fill the view page
jonaswso first RSM query woudl be with index=100*pagenumber, the subsequent four would be with <after/> based on the results of the respective previous query
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HolgerIndex support is optional though (and typically expensive).
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edhelasjonasw "simply have to query", well it's not that simple
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edhelasthis means that you kinda have to cache the items while their coming, be sure that no new items came in between
edhelashaving everything ready to handle the append of items, update the previous/next button to ensure that you can navigate to the other pages
edhelasand also you never know in advance what the server config is, so I cannot "prepare" my UI to request 25 items, the server can return 15 and I have to change my plans
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flowedhelas, why not prepare the UI once you know how many items the page yielded?
flowafter all, the query itself could fail too
edhelasso each time a user request a page, I need a first round to check then request the articles :)
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flowedhelas, I was thinking more of: user action causes a new page request, issue the query, gather results, prepare UI
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edhelasflow I have to see how I can refactor my flow to handle that more properly indeed
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edhelasalso I have to check how XMPP servers are handling that, ejabberd had RSM bugs a few months ago still, and I don't know how if Prosody and the others are implementing RSM
edhelasa nice compliance test would also be really awesome to build
jonaswthe aioxmpp test suite starts to become something like that
edhelaspublish 100 items, request them in many different way to see if they are consistant
Ge0rGpublish a message archive, join a MIX, check if history replay works
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edhelasdisco items for a pubsub node with RSM, what do you think about it ?
edhelasor for any services basically
jonaswedhelas, isn’t that even a suggestion in XEP-0059?
jonaswmakes sense to have
edhelasthen ordering is also important
edhelasI'd like to ensure for Pubsub to disco the items based on the most recent first
edhelas(then I don't have to resolve the payload each time)
jonaswdefine most recent
jonaswmost rcent isn’t a suitable key for RSM
edhelaswell based of the "recent" definition in 0060 :p