XSF Discussion - 2018-08-22

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00:36:22 pep. RFC6120, 7.6.1 > Once the server has generated an XMPP resourcepart for the client, it MUST return an IQ stanza of type "result" to the client, which MUST include a <jid/> child element that specifies the full JID for the connected resource as determined by the server. From what I understand, we generally assume that the resource can be forcibly assigned by the server. Does this sentence also mean any other part of the JID can be rewritten? (localpart, domain)
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01:51:34 moparisthebest New messenger, LAN only, https://github.com/dakhnod/Meshenger
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06:12:04 Maranda pep.: I *don't think so*. Host at least has to honour the stream to attribute.
06:12:37 jonasw pep., yes, it can
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06:13:08 jonasw pep., before binding, there’s not really a JID anyway
06:13:16 jonasw there’s just the SASL identity, and that doesn’t have to match the JID
06:13:25 jonasw everything else (like stream @to) is just informational
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06:14:18 jonasw pep., there was a prosody module which would integrate with some forum software, and it would create a JID which didn’t match the SASL identity (based on the forum username) if the SASL identity contained stuff which wasn’t allowde in the JID
06:16:12 Maranda I'd like to actually see a server that dishes out a different host in the jid than the one you opened a stream to c2s wise
06:16:31 Maranda thinks he *won't*
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06:18:09 jonasw the host will probably stay what the client expects it to be, indeed
06:18:18 jonasw not that it really matters
06:19:41 jonasw (I also confused stream @to and @from)
06:20:06 jonasw (@to isn’t quite that informational given that it’s used for TLS already)
06:23:15 Maranda Aaaand I need cooooffeeee ☕
06:23:25 Zash Maranda: The hosted GTalk thing would assign you a different host IIRC
06:26:00 Maranda Zash: Huhu, I recall it opening s2s streams with no to or from and expecting those to be set from dialback. But that one sounds more hilarious
06:26:18 Zash On c2s tho
06:27:48 Maranda Yeah but me think clients would tell it where they're opening a stream to in that case 😆
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09:43:22 Link Mauve Could that mechanism be used for JID aliases?
09:43:47 Link Mauve As a neat upgrade mechanism when for instance a provider upgrades from example.com to example.org?
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10:44:52 Maranda Wasn't there some 301 xmpp version proposal as opposed to that?
10:46:00 jonasw Link Mauve, the main issue with changing domains isn’t the local, but the remote side
10:46:07 Maranda Or rather make that "a xmpp version of status code 301"
10:46:45 Maranda coughs lingua matrix failure 😞
10:47:59 Link Mauve jonasw, sure, but when you did migrate your domain (I remember pep. having to do that), it makes it transparent for your users.
10:48:15 jonasw Link Mauve, how is it going to be transparent when all the remote roster entries are borked?
10:48:16 pep. Yeah, at least you don't have to have a flag day
10:48:21 Link Mauve In a company, where you are already using shared groups and mostly communicating locally, it does make sense.
10:48:25 jonasw right
10:48:48 jonasw Link Mauve, rewriting the bare JID could be a helper, but I think there’s a stream error for it
10:48:50 pep. You will indeed still need that flag day when actually switching the actual account
10:49:50 Maranda thinks something like "Resource Moved Permanently" is far more trasparent and less clunky
10:50:58 Maranda Than tellin' someone his jid magically changed when he/she binds a resource...
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10:53:13 pep. What I meant above would have been the opposite really. "you can use your new _credentials_, but for now it'll still bind to the same old jid"
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10:55:58 Maranda I'm pretty sure at least 95% of the clients out there would start coughing blood if there's a change to either the node or the host portion of a jid they don't expect anyways
10:56:46 ralphm When I was working on XMPP (PubSub) based federation for social networking sites, we had full movability of objects. Something would move to a different site and we'd send a node deletion notification with <redirect/> element pointing to the new place.
10:56:47 pep. It's not like it was explicitely forbidden, nor really specified by the RFC either. Send an errata?
10:57:39 ralphm You can do something similar with the "gone" stanza error. It also has a way to specify the new location by putting a URI in the element.
10:58:18 ralphm If somebody retrieves his roster, the server will send out presence probes. If the remote server responds with "gone" it could rewrite the roster item.
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10:58:24 pep. also <moved/>
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10:58:43 ralphm There's no <moved/> stanza error
10:58:49 daniel Conversations will happily change the jid and use that for subsequent logins. Which in turn can be a problem some times. For example OpenFire will let you specify a jid like username@ip and on bind it gets changed to username@domain but domain won't resolve properly
10:58:52 pep. -xep moved
10:58:57 pep. bunneh!!
10:59:09 Maranda ralphm: that's for far better than what mentioned by others ☺️
10:59:10 pep. https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0283.html
10:59:29 Maranda That's for sure*
10:59:36 pep. But I don't like the bits in the security considerations, that defeats the point of the XEP
10:59:39 Maranda Damn auto correction
10:59:42 daniel Or they are other weird and broken servers that use something like email@domain to login and then change the jid on bind to username@domain. And then subsequent logins don't work
10:59:45 pep. And I don't think it's much of an issue
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10:59:54 ralphm Maranda: thanks, there's a reason this stuff is there to begin with :-D
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11:01:28 ralphm pep.: ah yeah, I forgot about that one. I don't think (now) that this XEP is needed. What does it do better than "gone"?
11:01:36 Maranda thinks he tried to desperately mention "301", "Moved Permanently" keywords for a few minutes to no avail also 😆🤸‍♂️
11:01:47 Maranda 🤷‍♂️
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11:02:48 pep. ralphm, with <gone/> you need to keep track of what's gone where. With moved it's a client thing, the account can be tombstoned or deleted
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11:03:22 pep. Only works for roster though
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11:06:29 ralphm yeah
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