SamWhited, wouldn't it be better if the client could optionally send its aggregate token when requesting his roster via xep366 (the client request in example 3), instead of sending each and every roster item and its xep366 version? Assuming that the roster doesn't usually change between logins
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SamWhited
I really should rework that xep. I feel like there was a reason for that particular thing, but I'm too tired to remember it right now
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nyco
test
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Guus
nyco, what client are you using? It surprises me that you need to 'test' most of the time.
Guus
XMPP aught to be more reliable 🙂
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nyco
it's not
nyco
I use doubtful software ;-)
nyco
in doubtful version
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nyco
are we having the meeting?
MattJ
Hey
Guus
sure
Guus
hi Matt
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time
Guus
ralphm, you here?
Guus
Martin, not the Martin that's usually here these days, here?
MattJ
I guess it's just us
Guus
nyco, do you want to do the honours?
nyco
what are the honours?
Guus
lead the meeting 🙂
nyco
sure
nycosonne la cloche
nyco
does it work? 😉
nyco
agenda
Guus
auch... :_
nyco
hehehe
nyco
we have no topic for decision
nyco
Draft a membership survey on priorities.
nyco
Create plan for online shop selling XSF swag
nyco
Collect information on the role and responsibilities of the executive officer.
nyco
Fundraising and financing
nyco
Search for a Executive Director replacement
nyco
these are in the trello board, which ones do we want/need to discuss?
MattJ
Let's tackle them one at a time
nyco
then all 5 for today? sure
Link Mauve
There is also one PR which needs board approval, fyi: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/695
MattJ
The survey is done, though not officially reviewed
Link Mauve
Nothing pressing though.
nyco
who's the minute taker? MattJ? Guus? anyone?
MattJ
My laptop froze so I'm currently on my phone
nyco
oops
Guus
I shall minute
nyco
thx
nyco
1. Draft a membership survey on priorities.
nyco
the survey has run, we have the results
nyco
no shared analysis afaik, we should discuss and make a plan?
Guus
well, we did this to find out what our priorities were going to be, right?
MattJ
Right
MattJ
It's a bit late for that this year I think, though hopefully the next board will find it useful
nyco
that's also what I understand
Guus
our tenure is almost over - so maybe we should aim to gather what priorities next board could set 🙂
MattJ
Sure, I think we can still act on the data in other ways we see fit
nyco
next board to be elected on November, we may be able to produce some work for them though
Guus
MattJ, sure.
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Guus
I must admit i've not looked at this further.
nyco
so we draft a proposed set of prios for the next board?
Guus
I think we should condense the findings, and come up with a handful of proposed priorities?
MattJ
Could work, yes
nyco
I believe there is no big surprise
nyco
ok, who's taking the task?
Guus
as you were unsurprised, you? 🙂
nyco
most of the things in the survey have been quite discussed
nyco
created the card, please review: https://trello.com/c/Al4GHsYy/311-proposed-prios-for-the-2018-2019-board-based-on-survey
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ok, I take it
MattJ
lgtm, thanks
nyco
2. Create plan for online shop selling XSF swag
nyco
I understand there is no online shop that fully satisfies us
nyco
we still wish to sell online with minimal effort
nyco
the markup is of concern
Guus
although I'm still not opposed to this, I'm starting to wonder if it's more trouble than its worth.
nyco
as well as the fact that those platforms are fully proprietary
nyco
I share the feeling
nyco
my "pro" is the ease of setup: just upload a logo, and boom you got mugs for sale
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nyco
there is still a need for T-shorts, polo, sweaters for FOSDEM and the likes✎
Guus
SCAM takes care of those
nyco
there is still a need for T-shirts, polos, sweaters for FOSDEM and the likes ✏
nyco
yes
MattJ
We had an offer from... was it Martin? For assistance with this too
Guus
Martin has been awol for quite a while
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It was muppeth
MattJ
I meant non-XSF Martin :) (but I was wrong anyway)
MattJ
Just knew it was m*
Guus
eh?
Guus
you lost me
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thank you !XSF_Martin 🙂
MattJ
<muppeth> Â nyco: about swag. I started a project called aptgetshirt.com while back where we produce (print) shirts and donate 50% of profit to proje
cts. We use water based inks and fair trade (organic) garment as oppose to slave labor zazzle and alike. We thought of running xmpp shirt campaign somewhere around november,
since you guys are looking for something we could work together on that. We also start slowly with stickers too.
nyco
his completion got the wrong nick
MattJ
From a meeting some weeks back
nyco
ooooh right, I forgot
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Guus
either we move on this, or we don't
Guus
but lets make up our minds, at least for now.
nyco
we could have more info, to take a decision on
Guus
That'll drag on. I motion that we abandon the effort to create an online shop for now, until someone comes up with a clear plan that we can vote on directly.
nyco
why not, we can ask muppeth?
Guus
we've been at this since April. It is unlikely that things progress, at least not in the context of Board.
MattJ
I'm fine either way
Guus
+1 or -1 guys.
MattJ
To what exactly?
Guus
I motion that we abandon the effort to create an online shop for now, until someone comes up with a clear plan that we can vote on directly.
MattJ
Oh, sorry
nyco
+1
MattJ
Well, +1... but I thought that's kinda where we were at anyway :)
nyco
so, we reach the middle of the agenda, but it is already 53...
nyco
should we stop here?
Guus
I can't stay much longer than 16:00
nyco
so, AOB?
MattJ
None here
Guus
not from me
nyco
Time / date of next meeting?
nyco
+1W
nyco
+1
Guus
wfm
MattJ
wfm
nycosonne la cloche
nyco
😉
nyco
thx! 😉
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gsynk yoou!
Guus
ooh, lefthandshiftleft.
Guus
thank you
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ralphm
Sorry, I was dragged into a work meeting
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ralphm
Thanks nyco
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peter
hi
MattJ
Hi peter
peter
It seems that /var/ on atlas (mail server) ran out of space. Jonathan Siegle and I are cleaning things up.
peter
I noticed we have some large mailing list archives from 2002-2004 for a cvslog@ list that was used by
JabberStudio: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/cvslog/ Although they might be of historical interest, I suggest that we delete the
archives.
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BTW, as a result of /var/ running out of space, mail hasn't been delivered for some undefined period of time.
MattJ
Do we still have the CVS somewhere?
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I kind of doubt that we do.
peter
I don't know which machine was running JabberStudio CVS - the machine is probably long gone. :-)
MattJ
I doubt it would hold that much for us, just sometimes I like to go digging for historical artefacts :)
MattJ
Oh, I see, it was for all jabberstudio projects... fun
peter
yeah
peter
Let's not kill these off unless we have to.
peter
I like the historical stuff, and it can be useful for patent defense purposes at times.
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MattJ
How large is it?
peter
Not huge - 300MB?? Maybe /var/ needs to be expanded. And we had various logs which could be deleted (e.g., apache and we're not using that anymore) so I think we're good for now.
Zash
Back it up somewhere?
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ralphm
(this seams like a discussion for iteam@)
ralphm
seems
peter
Yes, I raised it in that room. Removing list archives and lists is something I've always checked with the membership about.
ralphm
good point
peter
Anyway, I think we can defer this decision.
ralphm
I don't like deleting stuff. It is a problem.
ralphm
(Hi, I'm ralphm)
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peter
I'm deleting some apache2 logs though. Justifying it through GDRP. ;-)
petergoes back to his W3C meeting in progress
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hahah
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MattJ
Ha, Jogger
peter
nice :)
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vanitasvitae
Is planet.jabber.org having a bug? I'm constantly receiving my GSoC posts as updates :/