flowSamWhited, wouldn't it be better if the client could optionally send its aggregate token when requesting his roster via xep366 (the client request in example 3), instead of sending each and every roster item and its xep366 version? Assuming that the roster doesn't usually change between logins
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SamWhitedI really should rework that xep. I feel like there was a reason for that particular thing, but I'm too tired to remember it right now
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Guusnyco, what client are you using? It surprises me that you need to 'test' most of the time.
GuusXMPP aught to be more reliable 🙂
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nycoit's not
nycoI use doubtful software ;-)
nycoin doubtful version
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nycoare we having the meeting?
MattJHey
Guussure
Guushi Matt
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Guusralphm, you here?
GuusMartin, not the Martin that's usually here these days, here?
MattJI guess it's just us
Guusnyco, do you want to do the honours?
nycowhat are the honours?
Guuslead the meeting 🙂
nycosure
nycosonne la cloche
nycodoes it work? 😉
nycoagenda
Guusauch... :_
nycohehehe
nycowe have no topic for decision
nycoDraft a membership survey on priorities.
nycoCreate plan for online shop selling XSF swag
nycoCollect information on the role and responsibilities of the executive officer.
nycoFundraising and financing
nycoSearch for a Executive Director replacement
nycothese are in the trello board, which ones do we want/need to discuss?
MattJLet's tackle them one at a time
nycothen all 5 for today? sure
Link MauveThere is also one PR which needs board approval, fyi: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/695
MattJThe survey is done, though not officially reviewed
Link MauveNothing pressing though.
nycowho's the minute taker? MattJ? Guus? anyone?
MattJMy laptop froze so I'm currently on my phone
nycooops
GuusI shall minute
nycothx
nyco1. Draft a membership survey on priorities.
nycothe survey has run, we have the results
nycono shared analysis afaik, we should discuss and make a plan?
Guuswell, we did this to find out what our priorities were going to be, right?
MattJRight
MattJIt's a bit late for that this year I think, though hopefully the next board will find it useful
nycothat's also what I understand
Guusour tenure is almost over - so maybe we should aim to gather what priorities next board could set 🙂
MattJSure, I think we can still act on the data in other ways we see fit
nyconext board to be elected on November, we may be able to produce some work for them though
GuusMattJ, sure.
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GuusI must admit i've not looked at this further.
nycoso we draft a proposed set of prios for the next board?
GuusI think we should condense the findings, and come up with a handful of proposed priorities?
MattJCould work, yes
nycoI believe there is no big surprise
nycook, who's taking the task?
Guusas you were unsurprised, you? 🙂
nycomost of the things in the survey have been quite discussed
nycocreated the card, please review: https://trello.com/c/Al4GHsYy/311-proposed-prios-for-the-2018-2019-board-based-on-survey
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nycook, I take it
MattJlgtm, thanks
nyco2. Create plan for online shop selling XSF swag
nycoI understand there is no online shop that fully satisfies us
nycowe still wish to sell online with minimal effort
nycothe markup is of concern
Guusalthough I'm still not opposed to this, I'm starting to wonder if it's more trouble than its worth.
nycoas well as the fact that those platforms are fully proprietary
nycoI share the feeling
nycomy "pro" is the ease of setup: just upload a logo, and boom you got mugs for sale
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nycothere is still a need for T-shorts, polo, sweaters for FOSDEM and the likes
GuusSCAM takes care of those
nycothere is still a need for T-shirts, polos, sweaters for FOSDEM and the likes
nycoyes
MattJWe had an offer from... was it Martin? For assistance with this too
GuusMartin has been awol for quite a while
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MattJIt was muppeth
MattJI meant non-XSF Martin :) (but I was wrong anyway)
MattJJust knew it was m*
Guuseh?
Guusyou lost me
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Guusthank you !XSF_Martin 🙂
MattJ<muppeth> nyco: about swag. I started a project called aptgetshirt.com while back where we produce (print) shirts and donate 50% of profit to proje
cts. We use water based inks and fair trade (organic) garment as oppose to slave labor zazzle and alike. We thought of running xmpp shirt campaign somewhere around november,
since you guys are looking for something we could work together on that. We also start slowly with stickers too.
nycohis completion got the wrong nick
MattJFrom a meeting some weeks back
nycoooooh right, I forgot
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Guuseither we move on this, or we don't
Guusbut lets make up our minds, at least for now.
nycowe could have more info, to take a decision on
GuusThat'll drag on. I motion that we abandon the effort to create an online shop for now, until someone comes up with a clear plan that we can vote on directly.
nycowhy not, we can ask muppeth?
Guuswe've been at this since April. It is unlikely that things progress, at least not in the context of Board.
MattJI'm fine either way
Guus+1 or -1 guys.
MattJTo what exactly?
GuusI motion that we abandon the effort to create an online shop for now, until someone comes up with a clear plan that we can vote on directly.
MattJOh, sorry
nyco+1
MattJWell, +1... but I thought that's kinda where we were at anyway :)
nycoso, we reach the middle of the agenda, but it is already 53...
nycoshould we stop here?
GuusI can't stay much longer than 16:00
nycoso, AOB?
MattJNone here
Guusnot from me
nycoTime / date of next meeting?
nyco+1W
nyco+1
Guuswfm
MattJwfm
nycosonne la cloche
nyco😉
nycothx! 😉
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Guusgsynk yoou!
Guusooh, lefthandshiftleft.
Guusthank you
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ralphmSorry, I was dragged into a work meeting
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ralphmThanks nyco
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peterhi
MattJHi peter
peterIt seems that /var/ on atlas (mail server) ran out of space. Jonathan Siegle and I are cleaning things up.
peterI noticed we have some large mailing list archives from 2002-2004 for a cvslog@ list that was used by
JabberStudio: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/cvslog/ Although they might be of historical interest, I suggest that we delete the
archives.
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peterBTW, as a result of /var/ running out of space, mail hasn't been delivered for some undefined period of time.
MattJDo we still have the CVS somewhere?
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peterI kind of doubt that we do.
peterI don't know which machine was running JabberStudio CVS - the machine is probably long gone. :-)
MattJI doubt it would hold that much for us, just sometimes I like to go digging for historical artefacts :)
MattJOh, I see, it was for all jabberstudio projects... fun
peteryeah
peterLet's not kill these off unless we have to.
peterI like the historical stuff, and it can be useful for patent defense purposes at times.
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MattJHow large is it?
peterNot huge - 300MB?? Maybe /var/ needs to be expanded. And we had various logs which could be deleted (e.g., apache and we're not using that anymore) so I think we're good for now.
ZashBack it up somewhere?
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ralphm(this seams like a discussion for iteam@)
ralphmseems
peterYes, I raised it in that room. Removing list archives and lists is something I've always checked with the membership about.
ralphmgood point
peterAnyway, I think we can defer this decision.
ralphmI don't like deleting stuff. It is a problem.
ralphm(Hi, I'm ralphm)
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peterI'm deleting some apache2 logs though. Justifying it through GDRP. ;-)
petergoes back to his W3C meeting in progress
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MattJHa, Jogger
peternice :)
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vanitasvitaeIs planet.jabber.org having a bug? I'm constantly receiving my GSoC posts as updates :/
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