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edhelas
https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-progress-report-19/
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edhelas
funny thing is that Purism is in partnership with Matrix :)
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jonasw
yeah, that’s probably why they’re using libpurple.
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jonasw
make the xmpp stuff as awful as possible ;-)
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jonasw
(not serious, obviously)
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nyco
board meeting, soon
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MattJ
.
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nyco
go?
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Guus
o/
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Guus
Ralphm, Martin?
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nyco
we're, good enough
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nyco
3
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Guus
I'm kinda stressing to make a deadline
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nyco
sure, so we cancel, postpone?
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Guus
let's call todays attendance 2.5 🙂
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Guus
Oh, please continue
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nyco
is 2.5 a quorum?
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Guus
if we get three votes it is
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MattJ
I'm good
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nyco
;-)
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MattJ
Let's go
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MattJ
0) Role call
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MattJ
Guus, nyco and myself
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MattJ
Minutes... anyone?
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MattJ
I'll do them
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Guus
I'll wrt... ok 🙂
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MattJ
1) Agenda bashing
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MattJ
Anyone with anything not on Trello?
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nyco
board's prio, thx to survey
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MattJ
That's on Trello, I was just looking at it ;)
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nyco
yep
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nyco
https://trello.com/c/Al4GHsYy/311-proposed-prios-for-the-2018-2019-board-based-on-survey
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MattJ
2) Topics for decisions: Proposed priorities for the 2018-19 board
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MattJ
I've not finished reading or ingesting the proposals yet
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MattJ
So I propose we all take a look at them and discuss on Trello/list/next week and make whatever decisions we need to make, if any
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nyco
seems like we're good on protocol, and we can stay neutral on software
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nyco
+1
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Guus
Nyco mentioned he prepared for this, but I've not read it yet
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Guus
oh, that's that link
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Guus
eh, yeah, let's give Ralph and Martin time to look at that too
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Guus
nyco, maybe share them on the board mailinglist?
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MattJ
Ok, moving on
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MattJ
+1 to that
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nyco
ok
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MattJ
3) Commitment for the week ahead (right...): Collect info on role of ED
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MattJ
I think someone else needs to take this on, who isn't Martin
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MattJ
I can bring it up on the list
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Guus
ok.
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MattJ
4) Topics for discussion
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Guus
i suspect some people may want to tie in the discussion I started with regards to longer tenure
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Guus
(nevermind, please go ahead)
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MattJ
I see 3 items: finances and fundraising, ED replacement, change of board tenure
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MattJ
I believe the first two are currently stalled on other things, with no updates
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MattJ
Does anyone have anything they want to say about them?
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Guus
I'm unsure of the state of the finance/fundraising with existing / old sponsors. I've not heard back from Peter, and neglected to follow up for a couple of weeks.
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Guus
But I think we might want to include others than just Peter for following up with sponsors
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MattJ
+1
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MattJ
4.1) Change of board tenure
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Guus
I'll try to reach out and discuss this with him
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MattJ
This has had some discussion on the lists, I haven't been through it all yet
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Guus
board tenure: there was some discussion in the mailing list, of which I read only half (some kind of mail problem, I think)
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MattJ
I'm not really sure of my thoughts on the matter yet
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Kev
I think one question answers it.
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MattJ
Kev, the question being?
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Kev
How often have we been in a position that someone was wanted to do more than one year, but the membership decided to replace the entire Board instead (and part two, if the membership decides it doesn't want any to stay on, is that a sign)?
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MattJ
Well, we can reflect on that and discuss next week
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Guus
I like how you make one question have two parts. 🙂
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Kev
My memory of votes is that the membership almost always votes in incumbents for Council/Board when they stand, and the issue with Board continuity is mostly people not wanting to do another year.
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Kev
Guus: My use of English is, hopefully, unique.
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Guus
I see a lot of overlap though
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Guus
only nyco and me are new this year, I think.
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nyco
nope! ;-)
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Guus
only me is new this year?
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MattJ
I can understand why people don't want to do multiple years, it's a frustrating thankless job in my honest opinion :)
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nyco
though I feel it frustrating as well, I don't think it is thankless
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Guus
I'm not arguing that we must have a two-year tenure, btw
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MattJ
I think the best place to progress the discussion is on the list, where the conversation currently is (I'm assuming they are fixed now)
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Guus
I'd primarily want to improve continuity
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nyco
anyway, concretely, a longer tenure seems not possible in terms of org neither wishable by candidates, is my understand aligned?
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Guus
I wouldn't mind doing two years, for what its worth
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MattJ
It may be so
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Guus
but there might be other options
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Guus
to the list it is, as far as I'm concerned.
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MattJ
Ok, agreed
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MattJ
5) AOB?
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Guus
none here
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MattJ
Ok
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MattJ
6) The End
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nyco
thx all
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MattJ
Assuming everyone is happy with +1w
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Guus
+1w, rigth 🙂
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Kev
Guus: FWIW, I'd be surprised if you stood and the Membership didn't elect you. Which is pretty much at the root of me thinking changing the bylaws on this isn't worthwhile.
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Guus
Kev, like I said, making tenure longer isn't my goal here. I've just noticed that things die down often, which is what I'd like to see change
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Kev
I suspect longer terms would have the opposite of the desired effect for that.
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Guus
preventing boards from changing frequently is one way of doing that, I think, but there might be other ways
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Kev
I think the election, standing again, etc., tends to add a little energy back into the system. IMO.
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Guus
so we should have more elections then! 🙂
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jonasw
daniel, HSLuv looks interesting
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daniel
jonasw: looks to me like the right tool for the job. This is pretty much exactly what we want. And colors like nice by default
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jonasw
meh
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MattJ
This whole thing is so close to the literal definition of bike-shedding, it's scary
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Zash
Fun fact: Our bike sheds are not painted.
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MattJ
Zash, because the committee is still deciding
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jonasw
good that the HSLuv documentation doesn’t say which range H is in.
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jonasw
ugh.
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jonasw
daniel, did you compare HSLuv and HPLuv?
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daniel
jonasw: no
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jonasw
mmm negative RGB values. fancy.
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jonasw
I hate that C implementation already.
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jonasw
MattJ, at least, there’s actual functional differences here. HSLuv looks better than YCbCr right away
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jonasw
and there are libraries for the major languages
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jonasw
which is also great
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jonasw
https://sotecware.net/images/dont-puush-me/GZ8ju7HjrP0t1SR3jMV8SQRK0amD8hB6zSiN_8GQOyk.png
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jonasw
left: HPLuv, right: HSLuv
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jonasw
https://sotecware.net/images/dont-puush-me/400A0c9qHGa3fwYfPNT8K9ixOjsuFsLmEIX-WtU5s8A.png left: XEP-0392, right: HSLuv
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jonasw
the definition of the angle is obviously different
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jonasw
but that doesn’t matter
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jonasw
HSLuv looks better to me
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MattJ
There seems more contrast in the XEP's colours
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MattJ
(this is the first time I have seen any of them)
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jonasw
aren’t you using poezio? ;-)
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Link Mauve
An old version.
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MattJ
Yes, from 2016 or so
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Zash
The XEP ones seem to be more uniform in brightness
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MattJ
Zash, really? I thought the opposite...
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MattJ
Colours :/
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Zash
The ones in the middle of the right square look dark and grey and boring
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Link Mauve
Except in the yellow tones, I also find the XEP ones more consistent.
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jonasw
disclaimer: I’m not sure I’m gamma-ing those colours correctly
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jonasw
also, your viewer may add or not add some gamma correction to this which makes things worse or better, I don’t know
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Link Mauve
On my screen, the middle row is the same teal from left to right. ^^'
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Zash
disclaimer: I've got a really cheap monitor, no way it's callibrated in any way whatsoever
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Zash
Also running it in some extra-brightness mode becasue colors looked really crappy otherwise
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Link Mauve
Actually the three rows at the middle are almost the same colour.
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Link Mauve
jonasw, is your PNG ICC enabled?
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jonasw
is what what?
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jonasw
it’s generated with scrot
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Link Mauve
I don’t know how that production chain does it.
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jonasw
so the answer is most likely "no"
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jonasw
also, I am just dumping some RGB QColor things onto the screen there
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Zash
oh right, the "standard" mode on my monitor makes black insanely bright for some reason